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Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.17 22:51:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Thundirr

o/ Serenity

We met at FF 2007 briefly when you put the new EVE Strategic Map down on our table.

In game, I may have some conflicted feelings regarding you, out of game I think we would get along pretty good.

My Question:
Has there been any thought, on your part, given to the dynamic shift of alliance level PVP towards the realm of Super Capitals? Namely Titans. Many 0.0 residents feel the proliferation of the Titan class ship is beginning to become a hindrance. You briefly mentioned a balance issue if titans became too numerous. The point when an alliance is able to kill capital ships with multiple DDs is just around the corner, will that be the point when enough is enough?

I'm curious what your personal stance is on this subject. What kind of balancing would you prefer, if balancing was needed, and why.

Thanks,
Thundirr out.



.o/ Thundirr

I've only given brief consideration to the issue of titan balancing as you refer to ( (post 49).

IMO the point at which capital ships are being frequently killed with multiple DDs is probably a little too late in terms of balancing - the balancing needs to come earlier.

My preference for balancing would be to first look at the roles titans play, if the scenario you mention is really going to be frequent, what tactics are available to counter the multi-titan-DD-kill-capital scenarios, what are players doing about it today, and if balancing is really required. I think it's important to consider game-play solutions as well as balancing. Eg. Are the people getting multi-dd'd simply not doing basic intelligence gathering about which titan pilots are online?

In terms of what specific balancing should be provided, I'd need input from the player base as to what ideas people have, both pros and cons.


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.17 23:01:00 - [62]
 


Quote:
\o/ I'd put all my votes on you just for that Smile.

Originally by: Grismar

It's good to see that people in EVE use the same healthy common sense in the voting booth as they do in the real world. Promise people to fix a small annoyance and next thing you know you will be spending 200 million isk per day waging war on some deep 0.0 alliance for no other reason than liberating an outpost controlling alliance there that happens to be closely related to the CSM representative.

But I digress :)

Lol that's a highly viable scenario. Thankfully I'm not part of an alliance that's effective to war-dec.

It's ofc important players realise no CSM candidate can promise to fix anything. What we can promise is, on election, to present a well balanced and structured arguement to CCP for evaluation, with the goal of persuading them to take a particular course of action.

Originally by: Grismar
I was wondering whether you spotted my question, Serenity. In short:

Do you favor an approach by CCP where they implement a lot of mechanics and content to allow for a specific style of play, making it easy for players to get into it, but hard for them to invent news ways to use it? Or would you favor just adding some mechanics here and there to allow people to develop their own ways of implementing news styles of gameplay, making it harder for players to get into it, but allowing them greater freedom and creativity in enhancing their own game?

(see my post above for more concrete examples, though I would prefer you answer the generic question and not go into the examples too much)

Greetings,
Grismar.



Hey Grismar :) You've saved me a lot of typing here really! I favour;
- Firstly (To paraphrase) "just adding mechanics to allow people to .. have greater freedom and creativity in enhancing their game". Ie. Extend the Sandbox. like with enabling contractable kill rights/extend the contract system
- Secondly, improvement of the UX to do some specific tasks. If every task becomes "generic " then we'll have 20 clicks to do anything to choose different options.

A mix of both may get around the UX problem eg. where the "back-end" implementation by CCP is generic, but enables many specific front-end application. Eg. Extend contract system on backend, add a right-click option to kill-rights to "Sell Kill right as Contract".


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.17 23:10:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: Kali Burr
I will be addressing each candidate with the same questions ableit it might be a little late:

1) What do you think about more PVE scenarios, ones which would incorporate a large section of the EVE universe. Perhaps like a war between the races, or a war against a different race. Perhaps it would be a war against a pirate corp where PCs are encouraged to come help out the fleet. This could allow players to get more of a feel in some way fleet battles as well.

This kind of event-based content sounds like a good idea to me. There have been events in the past where Players have been asked to assist in fleet/defence or convoy defence, and IIRC, were very popular.

Originally by: Kali Burr
2) Along the lines of the above statement, how would you feel if the EVE universe had a vote in how their races interacted. Perhaps in order to get users more involved the races would submit 'Resolutions' to the players on actions they take. Perhaps the Gallente Federation gives some offense to the Caldari State or vice versa, maybe the resolution to those that are members of the Caldari State would say something like, "Should the Caldari State retaliate with military force against system XYZ for said offense?". Then there could be some possible PVE event taken in that sector of space. The Caldari State can then give real-time missions to players who wish to participate be it material gathering, intelligence, combat missions, mercenary action, etc.

I can't see CCP accepting player based voting for resolutions on the outcome of the NPC storyline due to their fierce guarding of guarding their IP. Furthermore from a IC perspective, while POD pilots are the "Gods of New Eden", we do not represent the majority of the faction population.

Giving real-time missions to players wishing to participate (your suggestion) is closer in-line (and IMO interesting) to influence faction conflict.

Originally by: Kali Burr
3) How would you feel about opening Invention to invent new items that they design, potentially completely new items to the EVE universe? I believe giving the players the ability to customize items and perhaps make something completely new would greatly increase their involvement and enjoyment of the game. This would introduce even more learning skills for those that want to do industry and allow them to decide how and what will improve ships. Perhaps even allowing researchers to invent totally new kinds of ships.

I'd like to see this very much (see post 53)


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.17 23:22:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Kali Burr

4) How would you feel if the EVE universe could start impacting in some way on 0.0? Pirates and alliances in 0.0 often have influence in Empire space and low sec, what if the tables were reversed? What if players in empire space could pass resolutions for the races to clear out temporarily portions of low sec, perhaps even attempt to clear out portions of 0.0? The idea here would not to attact home systems, but perhaps fringe systems. This could help introduce empire players to 0.0 and pvp, it could also help keep in check mega alliances and factions. In addition this could allow empire players the 'occasional' chance to get some resources in 0.0 if they aid the initiative.


For reasons stated in the response to your first question above, I think it should be done by player actions, not by a simple vote. From the argements for any kind of "reversal" of control from Empire to 0.0, I think it should be through player action as stated in my introduction . At end of the day, having differentiated content in EVE, gives something to strive for and makes it a true achievement. Giving arbitrary access to 0.0 by empire controlled mechanic will de-value the achievement of 0.0 players.

The issue of providing an entry point to 0.0 for new players (the original intention of losec) needs looking into, as I think losec fails to achieve this as it stands today. Thank EVE for player organisations like EVE University who work to bridge this gap, but it alone is not enough.

Originally by: Kali Burr

5) Finally how would you feel about creating and opening events to all players and not just the wealthiest alliances in EVE? There could be many talented pilots out there that want to compete for fame and glory, but may not have the ISK to do it. Perhaps if EVE provided weekly/monthly tournaments around the EVE universe and then allowed the winners to compete in a bracket system up to a finale, it would encourage even more interaction. Instead of just giving some enormous prize once/twice a year, they could give smaller prizes for each stage of the contest leading up to the ultimage prize. These could also include side contests like 1v1/2v2/etc frigate/cruiser fights. Find out who the best 1v1 player is, or who the best tandem team is, etc.

Reading between the lines, you are referring specifically to status/ranked events other than the Alliance Tournament, InEVE skill ranking or my Alliance rankings.

I think any kind of transparent ranking system is good, because it drives competition, gives people a goal (which = satisfaction on achievement) and having events to support this would be nice. Do CCP need to organise these events? Possibly through the volunteer organisations, or through a player-corp action.


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.18 00:01:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Mynas Atoch
In the interest of Transparency, can you confirm that your alt is the founder and former CEO of a BOB corp and former Intelligence Director of BNC.



There has been quite an extensive thread on [CSM Candidates] Alternative Character Listing and I've outlined my position on any alleged transparency provided by it, clearly in post 32 on that thread. As a result, I will not be confirming/denying if any specific character is/is not my alt during this CSM election. If you can present a logical reason as to why the arguments I presented are invalid, feel free to discuss them here or there.

At this moment, I have 5 accounts, and ~15 characters that I use for various tasks including keeping up-to-date on what is happening in EVE and provide direct access to perspectives on a wide variety of play styles from manufacturing to PvP and n00bs to veterans. I also have ~30 RL contacts made through FanFest/Dev Round Tables/Beer sessions/Gankathons/EvE-Maps with deep insight into specific areas of the game.

Originally by: Mynas Atoch
In the interst of Trust, can you state your opinion on players using 'acquired' passwords to read other corp and alliances forums, thus potentially commiting real life criminal acts in the pursuence of a computer video game?

Mynas Atoch
CEO, ETNY
(real life contact details available on request)

Please specify what you mean by 'acquired';
To refer to some possible meanings (IMO):
- Bought ? Fine
- Social Engineered? Fine
- Phished? Grey-area
- Hacked (Brute-Force)? Wrong
- Hacked (Code Exploit)? Wrong
- Breaking the law? Wrong
- Potentially breaking the law? This sounds to me like unspeak such as "Allegedly innocent", "Suspected terrorists". Either it's breaking the law (Wrong) or Not (Fine).

Thanks for the offer or RL contact details, but I don't see it as necessary given that you're not the one running for CSM Wink


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.18 01:11:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Petter Sandstad
I am supporting the man behind Rearden Steele.


Cheers Petter, kudos that you spotted the connection Wink


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.18 07:02:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Friznit
Wait, are you implying that this character sale wasn't an April Fool's all along?

I'd be interested in hearing his comments on this when he gets back.


That character sale is an April Fool's joke. Serenity Steele is not for sale.


Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.19 06:43:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: padraig animal
Our support you have Serenity Steele .

Good arguments ,clear enough ,transparent enough also .

And beside that SS is so far i know the only man from our country running for csm :)


Thanks padraig :)

Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.05.19 15:39:00 - [69]
 

Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/05/2008 15:51:25
Originally by: Serenity Steele

Please specify what you mean by 'acquired' (re passwords to out-of-game websites and computers);
To refer to some possible meanings (IMO):
- Bought ? Fine
- Social Engineered? Fine
- Phished? Grey-area
- Hacked (Brute-Force)? Wrong
- Hacked (Code Exploit)? Wrong
- Breaking the law? Wrong
- Potentially breaking the law? This sounds to me like unspeak such as "Allegedly innocent", "Suspected terrorists". Either it's breaking the law (Wrong) or Not (Fine).


Thanks you for your clear and well thought out response to what were some personally difficult questions.

The "potentially breaking the law" was deliberately phrased, as no one to my knowledge has attempted to use existing UK law** to defend their Teamspeak servers and forums (their being no way within the game to do so). I'm not aware of whether FinFleet did seek legal counsel when they discussed it last year. I look forward to seeing some clarity to this the next time we catch an attempt to use my computer system without my authorization. (When we caught members of one of your other characters' corps doing so last month we chose not to attempt a prosecution.) I'll let you, and CCP of course, know whether the UK police agree with your interpretation that buying (or using social engineering to acquire) passwords to computer and voice communications systems which you have no express authority to use are legal.

EVE is a ground breaking game in SO many ways.

Good luck with your CSM campaign.

Myn

** = Computer Misuse Act 1990 (as amended by the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 2006)

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.19 17:44:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Serenity Steele

Please specify what you mean by 'acquired' (re passwords to out-of-game websites and computers);
To refer to some possible meanings (IMO):
- Bought ? Fine
- Social Engineered? Fine
- Phished? Grey-area
- Hacked (Brute-Force)? Wrong
- Hacked (Code Exploit)? Wrong
- Breaking the law? Wrong
- Potentially breaking the law? This sounds to me like unspeak such as "Allegedly innocent", "Suspected terrorists". Either it's breaking the law (Wrong) or Not (Fine).


Originally by: Mynas Atoch
Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/05/2008 15:51:25Thanks you for your clear and well thought out response to what were some personally difficult questions.

The "potentially breaking the law" was deliberately phrased, as no one to my knowledge has attempted to use existing UK law** to defend their Teamspeak servers and forums (their being no way within the game to do so). I'm not aware of whether FinFleet did seek legal counsel when they discussed it last year. I look forward to seeing some clarity to this the next time we catch an attempt to use my computer system without my authorization. (When we caught members of one of your other characters' corps doing so last month we chose not to attempt a prosecution.) I'll let you, and CCP of course, know whether the UK police agree with your interpretation that buying (or using social engineering to acquire) passwords to computer and voice communications systems which you have no express authority to use are legal.

EVE is a ground breaking game in SO many ways.

Good luck with your CSM campaign.

Myn

** = Computer Misuse Act 1990 (as amended by the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 2006)


Thanks for your comments and respect Mynas.

Reading through the UK legal act you linked, it looks like phishing is not a grey-area, but actually illegal in the UK. So it gets a "Wrong" from me.

If your servers are being attacked/hacked (which is lame ontop of being illegal), please contact the CEOs of the corporations is concerned. If it's the corp I'm thinking of, I'd be pretty surprised the if the CEO would tolerate such behaviour due it's lameness.

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.21 18:43:00 - [71]
 

To the voters who supported me .. Thank you to each of you, and congratulations on backing a winner!

To the voters who supported the other candidates .. appears you made good choices overall, I believe this is a team we can work with successfully.

To my fellow council members, look forward to catching up with you shortly, we have a shed-load of work ahead of us!

Will put some stats up on www.eve-csm.com tomorrow. Suffice to say, it wasn't position in the ranking ballot that counted for the inaugural council.

Silence Duegood
Posted - 2008.05.21 18:45:00 - [72]
 

Edited by: Silence Duegood on 21/05/2008 18:50:35
Originally by: Serenity Steele
To the voters who supported me .. Thank you to each of you, and congratulations on backing a winner!

To the voters who supported the other candidates .. appears you made good choices overall, I believe this is a team we can work with successfully.

To my fellow council members, look forward to catching up with you shortly, we have a shed-load of work ahead of us!

Will put some stats up on www.eve-csm.com tomorrow. Suffice to say, it wasn't position in the ranking ballot that counted for the inaugural council.


Congrats.

Serenity Steele
Dynamic Data Distribution
Posted - 2008.05.21 18:51:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Silence Duegood
Congrats.



Thanks Silence :)

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.05.22 01:52:00 - [74]
 


Excellent result and a very high quality candidate, look forward to working with you Serenity. All the best!


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