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jna
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:56:00 - [1]
 

<nerd-rage>

As an ex-GAP-year Latin Teacher....

Carpe Universitas is presumably supposed to mean "Seize the Universe", "Seize Everything" or possibly even "Seize the University", all of which are acceptable translations of Universitas.

But...

Universitas is 3rd Declension, Nominative Singular (Feminine incidentally, declines like Libertas).

In the film "Dead Poets Society", Robin Williams' character whispered Carpe Diem to his class. Not Carpe Dies. And do you know why?

No you don't. But I'll tell you.

Dies (like Universitas) is Nominative Singular, whereas Diem (like Universitatem) is Accusative Singular.

Carpe (Imperative) requires Universitatem (Object, Accusative). This should be your alliance name.

Your current name is meaningless and ungrammatic - just random words thrown together. You may as well have named it "Flow Trumpet" or "Kill Waterfall" for all the sense it makes. It's very much like saying "I is great" instead of "I am great". The most charitable translation of your current alliance name is "Seize it! The University."

Surely the thing about using Latin to make yourself look clever is that you should actually be clever as well?

Queue posts from [SEIZE] about how this is actually post-modern, ironic Latin.

</nerd-rage>

And no, I'm not an alt. This char (and jnb) are my mains. I'm a highsec carebear, and you can therefore safely dismiss everything in this poast.

Dr Totenkopf
Caldari
Noob Mercs
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:57:00 - [2]
 

pwnd

Prez21
Alpha Strike.
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:59:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Prez21 on 16/04/2008 11:59:44
Originally by: jna
<nerd-rage>

As an ex-GAP-year Latin Teacher....

Carpe Universitas is presumably supposed to mean "Seize the Universe", "Seize Everything" or possibly even "Seize the University", all of which are acceptable translations of Universitas.

But...

Universitas is 3rd Declension, Nominative Singular (Feminine incidentally, declines like Libertas).

In the film "Dead Poets Society", Robin Williams' character whispered Carpe Diem to his class. Not Carpe Dies. And do you know why?

No you don't. But I'll tell you.

Dies (like Universitas) is Nominative Singular, whereas Diem (like Universitatem) is Accusative Singular.

Carpe (Imperative) requires Universitatem (Object, Accusative). This should be your alliance name.

Your current name is meaningless and ungrammatic - just random words thrown together. You may as well have named it "Flow Trumpet" or "Kill Waterfall" for all the sense it makes. It's very much like saying "I is great" instead of "I am great". The most charitable translation of your current alliance name is "Seize it! The University."

Surely the thing about using Latin to make yourself look clever is that you should actually be clever as well?

Queue posts from [SEIZE] about how this is actually post-modern, ironic Latin.

</nerd-rage>

And no, I'm not an alt. This char (and jnb) are my mains. I'm a highsec carebear, and you can therefore safely dismiss everything in this poast.


When you was typing this, did you actualy think people would care?

I dont see what this post has to do with anyhing, so what there name doesnt mean anything cool, im pretty sure no one cares and your just trying to show off the fact that you understand latin better than everyone else and instead you just end up looking quite sad and pathetic

Reacz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:01:00 - [4]
 

You should of added at the end of your post:

Veni, vidi, vici.

Laughing

jna
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:03:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Reacz
You should of added at the end of your post:

Veni, vidi, vici.

Laughing


Very Happy

Thak Navari
Caldari
The Suicide Express
Sobriety Test Failures
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:03:00 - [6]
 

I disagree with the Tri pilot....Its informative and educational. There should be more informative and educational instead of ignorance and smack! Nothing wrong with one guy stating what he believes is right when another has the right to smack what he has to say.

Reverand Pastor
Black Serpent Technologies
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:04:00 - [7]
 

FAIL

Prez21
Alpha Strike.
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Thak Navari
I disagree with the Tri pilot....Its informative and educational. There should be more informative and educational instead of ignorance and smack! Nothing wrong with one guy stating what he believes is right when another has the right to smack what he has to say.


Im not saying it isnt educational, and i wish i had such a knowledge of latin, but why does it belong in this forum? simply it doesnt, its just one guy trying to embarass and alliance name, its flamebait and not needed.

Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:08:00 - [9]
 

You know everyone just refers to them as carpet, right?

v3rtigo
Selective Pressure
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:11:00 - [10]
 

Laughing

jna
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:14:00 - [11]
 

Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi.

EVIL SYNNs
Wrath of Fenris
Narwhals Ate My Duck
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:17:00 - [12]
 

I is great! Whats your point?

Why'dyou HitMe
Minmatar
KAOS.
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:21:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: jna
Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi.


Wait no you must do Morsus Mihi

jna
Caldari
Infinite Improbability Inc
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:24:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: jna on 16/04/2008 12:36:31
Originally by: Why'dyou HitMe
Originally by: jna
Christ. Don't get me started on Morsus Mihi.


Wait no you must do Morsus Mihi


lol. Well presumably it's supposed to be "Bite Me".

Which would be Morde Me (or Me Morde). 16th Century church Latin, you could possibly get away with Morde Mi instead of Me.

Morsus Mihi deconstructed... Morsus (Nominative Singular Noun from mordere - the infinitive verb that forms the imperative "bite", which would be morde). Mihi (Dative singular)... So Morsus Mihi sort-of means "A Bite. To me."

/me stems the flow of nerd rage

Funkcikle
Gallente
DEATHFUNK
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:31:00 - [15]
 

Actually It occured to me that carpe had got it wrong whilst I was taking a crap yesterday morning.

Rod Blaine
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:33:00 - [16]
 

Hey, at least it's an actual alliance, not an allaince Wink

But yeah, if you do something it's probably best to try and do it right wouldn't you say ?

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:33:00 - [17]
 

Moved from CAOD to General Discussion.

Pajama Jack
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
Posted - 2008.04.17 08:46:00 - [18]
 

Hahaha simple web translation tool.

Heh the way you get worked up over this, my corps name should have you foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog. Laughing

Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
Posted - 2008.04.17 09:04:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: jna
And do you know why?

No you don't.

I resent that assumption.

"People called Romanes they go the house"?

TheBlueMonkey
Gallente
Fags R Us
Posted - 2008.04.17 09:14:00 - [20]
 

Excelent post,

This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.

One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.

I fear applications may be some what lacking though.

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.04.17 09:28:00 - [21]
 

Some would say in the distant future people will have l33t names, I think not. I think however languages will have evolved and people doing honest mistakes already now with their dead languages you can easily see how the correct form will have mutated into what it is in a galaxy far far away and much later.

Whatever someone says it means it means, I'm pretty sure they used all their latin scholars as firewood during that first winter after the EVE gate collapsed anyways.

Quelque Chose
New Eden Roller Disco Supply
Posted - 2008.04.17 09:33:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
"People called Romanes they go the house"?


"Perhaps you find it wisible when I mention the name of my fwiend Bigus?"

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2008.04.17 10:34:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Erotic Irony on 17/04/2008 10:35:01
Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Excelent post,

This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.

One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.

I fear applications may be some what lacking though.


I'm game for this.

Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher?

Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
Posted - 2008.04.17 10:45:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 17/04/2008 10:50:25

Originally by: Erotic Irony
Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher?

In the UK, some people take a year out between A-levels and university. The idea of this "Gap year" is to do something useful, or gain useful experience. Some people travel the world. Others do volunteering activities in the third world. Some work to gain experience. Others teach (usually in independent or prep schools, which are less constrained about the qualifications of those they employ).

Edit: More pointless info, and some ranting.

This is becoming increasingly popular, to the extent that there are now companies that will organise your gap year for you. The girls that died in the recent crash in Ecuador were on a volunteering trip run by such a company.

As an old fart, this depresses me. Part of the point of gap years was that you had to get off your fat arse and organise it yourself. If you wanted to volunteer in Equatorial Guinea, you had to find an aid organisation that worked there and convince them that you would be useful. Now you just get mummy and daddy to send ten grand to a holiday company that will make your trip just ethical enough not to seem like the adventure holiday it really is. Once you're back you toddle of to university to do yet another pointless course in sleepware retail management.

Maglorre
Posted - 2008.04.17 10:46:00 - [25]
 

Ooooh oooh!! Do this one NOS Very Happy

Admiral Pwnflakes
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.04.17 11:00:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Admiral Pwnflakes on 17/04/2008 11:10:54
Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 17/04/2008 10:50:25

Originally by: Erotic Irony
Also excellent thread, however what is a GAP teacher?

In the UK, some people take a year out between A-levels and university. The idea of this "Gap year" is to do something useful, or gain useful experience. Some people travel the world. Others do volunteering activities in the third world. Some work to gain experience. Others teach (usually in independent or prep schools, which are less constrained about the qualifications of those they employ).

Edit: More pointless info, and some ranting.

This is becoming increasingly popular, to the extent that there are now companies that will organise your gap year for you. The girls that died in the recent crash in Ecuador were on a volunteering trip run by such a company.

As an old fart, this depresses me. Part of the point of gap years was that you had to get off your fat arse and organise it yourself. If you wanted to volunteer in Equatorial Guinea, you had to find an aid organisation that worked there and convince them that you would be useful. Now you just get mummy and daddy to send ten grand to a holiday company that will make your trip just ethical enough not to seem like the adventure holiday it really is. Once you're back you toddle of to university to do yet another pointless course in sleepware retail management.


A good 60% of gap years are now taken by mummy and daddies boys/girls whose parents cater to the beg and whim of their spoilt and immature children. IF these people had any balls or savy they'd go straight to University anyway, then do the GAP year afterwards if they so chose to do so.

But I digress, 9/10 these people goto Uni and study some inane an totally pointless subject (like Reading) and come out and end up getting a job paying 40k a year + bens and not doing alot.

And yeah, I'm a bitter person with a 1st class honors degree in Computer Science who is woefully underpaid and under appreciated.

NEVERMIND, EVE lets me vent my anger. :P (But I do plan to do my GAP year at the end of this year!) :P

Great now I'm tired and angry to boot, damn you sir, damn you!

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.04.17 11:21:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: TheBlueMonkey
Excelent post,

This really makes me want to start a corporation for the distinguished gentleman of eve.
One where we fight with valor, finesse and moxie.

One where the "smack talk" consists of phrases such as "thou art a braggart and a cad".
Oh such a marvelous dream.

I fear applications may be some what lacking though.

What an awesome idea! I'm in!

CCP Hammer

Posted - 2008.04.17 11:34:00 - [28]
 

Now I really want to create the Flow Trumpet Alliance.

CCP Navigator


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.17 11:36:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: CCP Hammer
Now I really want to create the Flow Trumpet Alliance.


Just to make sweet, sweet music, right? Very Happy

Ryoji Tanakama
Caldari
Indicium Technologies
Hephaestus Forge Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.17 11:45:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Reacz
You should of added at the end of your post:

Veni, vidi, vici.

Laughing


Weni widi wici, as Caesar purportedly had such a speech impediment :D


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