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Nova Soldier
Caldari
ROMANIA Renegades
ROMANIAN-LEGION
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:05:00 - [1]
 

Hydra Alliance vs Phalanx Alliance

Hydra had 100+ (60 Sniping bs 150+km,no dictors,almost no tacklers,and bc for suport) and a cap fleet on stand-by it seems but they could not use it because the had no cyno ship with them.

Phalanx had 70+ (30 bs Close range,dictors,takelers)

PA gang was preparing to jump on the hydra gang even if we where outnumbered, right on top of the hydra fleet.As we jumped in the system all the hydra fleet warped out to a safespot leaving all they'r drones behind and aparently some mining drones,
(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG),and LOGGED OFF yes 100+ men Logged off.

We probed out they'r safespot and killed some battleships as they where with agro and for the duration of 2 day we manage to kill more than HALF of they fleet because they where login on one by one and died as they tried to make a run for it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0804/post-1.JPG taken from the Hydra Forum explaining more.

Dreadpilot Roberts
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:07:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Dreadpilot Roberts on 16/04/2008 09:10:56
fap fap fap ... u want a prize ? lol

edit: I really don't think Hydra are capable to snipe 150km+ with a whole fleet ... maybe some 10-20 ships but not 60 like you said with all that t1 gear :|

Mark Starkiller
Caldari
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:08:00 - [3]
 

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG LaughingLaughingLaughing

Lord WarATron
Amarr
Shadow Warri0rs
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:12:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Lord WarATron on 16/04/2008 09:13:25
Dont you get it? You cannot target their bunch, because you were shooting their drones insted!

WishBlade
Caldari
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:14:00 - [5]
 

//surprise?

Knightside
Gallente
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:18:00 - [6]
 

I just wish these Hydra rats would spawn some decent loot. Next time, I want to see those mining drones put to use!

ezraniel
Caldari
0ccam's Razor
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:21:00 - [7]
 

don't disrespect the whole of hydra tbh, I've flown with those guys before when i was in Rule Of Three, and they are nice/Good guys, it just sounded like that FC was totally incompetent and totally unprepared to lead a 100 man + fleet with capital support.

To be honest, i'm an FC as well, and if you feel you can't handle such a fleet yet, don't. I've had to do this as well before when I felt uneasy leading a good 2 bill isk fleet into enemy space for the first time, So i relinquished command to one of our senior FC's which DID have the confidence to pull it off.

Again, kind of failure yes, but not really the fault of Hydra as a whole. IF you read it its just a failure of a FC who needs to get a LOT more experience leading fleets or just needs to stop leading fleets all together.

getting a good 100+ people killed without a real excuse is NOT a good way to go about FC'ng :s


Shaitis
Caldari
Fallen Angel's
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:25:00 - [8]
 

first page ;p of that epic fail.

WishBlade
Caldari
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
Posted - 2008.04.16 09:27:00 - [9]
 

It's righteous to generalize cause they followed. Can't be that dumbfounded to know from the start, and still go.

Seth Quantix
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:09:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Seth Quantix on 16/04/2008 11:11:57
its a total fail, 100 people and noone capable of leading......fail cascade!

Pazelya
Amarr
Spectrum Solutions INC
Angry Dogs
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:17:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Lord WarATron
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 16/04/2008 09:13:25
Dont you get it? You cannot target their bunch, because you were shooting their drones insted!


LaughingLaughingLaughing

Pazelya
Amarr
Spectrum Solutions INC
Angry Dogs
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:20:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: ezraniel
don't disrespect the whole of hydra tbh, I've flown with those guys before when i was in Rule Of Three, and they are nice/Good guys, it just sounded like that FC was totally incompetent and totally unprepared to lead a 100 man + fleet with capital support.

To be honest, i'm an FC as well, and if you feel you can't handle such a fleet yet, don't. I've had to do this as well before when I felt uneasy leading a good 2 bill isk fleet into enemy space for the first time, So i relinquished command to one of our senior FC's which DID have the confidence to pull it off.

Again, kind of failure yes, but not really the fault of Hydra as a whole. IF you read it its just a failure of a FC who needs to get a LOT more experience leading fleets or just needs to stop leading fleets all together.

getting a good 100+ people killed without a real excuse is NOT a good way to go about FC'ng :s





blah blah blah you are probably right, but as Seth told, its fail if you cant find proper fc between other 100 ppl in gang.. and.. man to log on to ss which is camped without a scout and lose your ships for 2 days in a row.. its not just fc.. its stupidity of pilots..

i am sorry for Hydra, they just fail..Twisted Evil

Sosus Red
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:21:00 - [13]
 

proof?

I can make up fairytales too.

Prontifex
Minmatar
THE INTERNET.
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:24:00 - [14]
 

Did you come in hot?

Butter Dog
Gallente
The Monocled Elite
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:33:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Sosus Red
proof?

I can make up fairytales too.


check their killboard mate :)




Raspuiain
Caldari
Imperial Fleet
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:34:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Nova Soldier
Hydra Alliance vs Phalanx Alliance

Hydra had 100+ (60 Sniping bs 150+km,no dictors,almost no tacklers,and bc for suport) and a cap fleet on stand-by it seems but they could not use it because the had no cyno ship with them.

Phalanx had 70+ (30 bs Close range,dictors,takelers)

PA gang was preparing to jump on the hydra gang even if we where outnumbered, right on top of the hydra fleet.As we jumped in the system all the hydra fleet warped out to a safespot leaving all they'r drones behind and aparently some mining drones,
(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG),and LOGGED OFF yes 100+ men Logged off.

We probed out they'r safespot and killed some battleships as they where with agro and for the duration of 2 day we manage to kill more than HALF of they fleet because they where login on one by one and died as they tried to make a run for it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0804/post-1.JPG taken from the Hydra Forum explaining more.


So you had tacklers, they didnt
you had usefull support, they didnt
You were close range DPS, they were long range

You said they had cap fleet on standby, yet they didnt have a cyno... so they didnt have a cap fleet on standby :/

They choose to run, you hunted them down.

And you felt this needed a COAD topic?
poor porr you.

Ironnight
Caldari
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:35:00 - [17]
 

Well they all had to go right at the same time, its not abusing broken gamemechanics, they just all need a clean pair of shorts.

Reacz
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:36:00 - [18]
 

OBVIOUSLY you guys hacked the server with your dev members.

Obvious hack is obvious.

Psylove
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:40:00 - [19]
 

*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Mitnal ([email protected])

ImUrDestiny
Caldari
Epic Catalyst Corp
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:42:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Nova Soldier
Hydra Alliance vs Phalanx Alliance

Hydra had 100+ (60 Sniping bs 150+km,no dictors,almost no tacklers,and bc for suport) and a cap fleet on stand-by it seems but they could not use it because the had no cyno ship with them.

Phalanx had 70+ (30 bs Close range,dictors,takelers)

PA gang was preparing to jump on the hydra gang even if we where outnumbered, right on top of the hydra fleet.As we jumped in the system all the hydra fleet warped out to a safespot leaving all they'r drones behind and aparently some mining drones,
(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG),and LOGGED OFF yes 100+ men Logged off.

We probed out they'r safespot and killed some battleships as they where with agro and for the duration of 2 day we manage to kill more than HALF of they fleet because they where login on one by one and died as they tried to make a run for it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0804/post-1.JPG taken from the Hydra Forum explaining more.


So you had tacklers, they didnt
you had usefull support, they didnt
You were close range DPS, they were long range

You said they had cap fleet on standby, yet they didnt have a cyno... so they didnt have a cap fleet on standby :/

They choose to run, you hunted them down.

And you felt this needed a COAD topic?
poor porr you.


Man, log off your entire fleet, with superior force? What kind of FC does that? What kind of ppl are listening for such an order?

Potty
Caldari
No.Mercy
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:49:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: ImUrDestiny
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Nova Soldier
Hydra Alliance vs Phalanx Alliance

Hydra had 100+ (60 Sniping bs 150+km,no dictors,almost no tacklers,and bc for suport) and a cap fleet on stand-by it seems but they could not use it because the had no cyno ship with them.

Phalanx had 70+ (30 bs Close range,dictors,takelers)

PA gang was preparing to jump on the hydra gang even if we where outnumbered, right on top of the hydra fleet.As we jumped in the system all the hydra fleet warped out to a safespot leaving all they'r drones behind and aparently some mining drones,
(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG),and LOGGED OFF yes 100+ men Logged off.

We probed out they'r safespot and killed some battleships as they where with agro and for the duration of 2 day we manage to kill more than HALF of they fleet because they where login on one by one and died as they tried to make a run for it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0804/post-1.JPG taken from the Hydra Forum explaining more.


So you had tacklers, they didnt
you had usefull support, they didnt
You were close range DPS, they were long range

You said they had cap fleet on standby, yet they didnt have a cyno... so they didnt have a cap fleet on standby :/

They choose to run, you hunted them down.

And you felt this needed a COAD topic?
poor porr you.


Man, log off your entire fleet, with superior force? What kind of FC does that? What kind of ppl are listening for such an order?


I belive the point is they didnt have a superior force, you could just about argue it was Equal.

So if your the FC your damned if you do, flamed if you dont. But I suppose as they all died running away they may as well have fought.

VinkNut
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:49:00 - [22]
 

IM COMING IN HOT

Pazelya
Amarr
Spectrum Solutions INC
Angry Dogs
Posted - 2008.04.16 11:56:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Potty
Originally by: ImUrDestiny
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Nova Soldier
Hydra Alliance vs Phalanx Alliance

Hydra had 100+ (60 Sniping bs 150+km,no dictors,almost no tacklers,and bc for suport) and a cap fleet on stand-by it seems but they could not use it because the had no cyno ship with them.

Phalanx had 70+ (30 bs Close range,dictors,takelers)

PA gang was preparing to jump on the hydra gang even if we where outnumbered, right on top of the hydra fleet.As we jumped in the system all the hydra fleet warped out to a safespot leaving all they'r drones behind and aparently some mining drones,
(http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Pazelya/Hydra-mining-drones-lol.JPG),and LOGGED OFF yes 100+ men Logged off.

We probed out they'r safespot and killed some battleships as they where with agro and for the duration of 2 day we manage to kill more than HALF of they fleet because they where login on one by one and died as they tried to make a run for it.

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0804/post-1.JPG taken from the Hydra Forum explaining more.


So you had tacklers, they didnt
you had usefull support, they didnt
You were close range DPS, they were long range

You said they had cap fleet on standby, yet they didnt have a cyno... so they didnt have a cap fleet on standby :/

They choose to run, you hunted them down.

And you felt this needed a COAD topic?
poor porr you.


Man, log off your entire fleet, with superior force? What kind of FC does that? What kind of ppl are listening for such an order?


I belive the point is they didnt have a superior force, you could just about argue it was Equal.

So if your the FC your damned if you do, flamed if you dont. But I suppose as they all died running away they may as well have fought.


The point is that in the beggining (when we were on N0C gate in VG- and they were on N0C gate in V3X) they had superior force. They were in sniper fit and in sniper spot.. They had around 60 BS and we had exactly 32(i know i have counted).. they had 50 ish support we had only 40ish.. and we jumped into their camp.. that doesnt count as superior force right?Shocked

Potty
Caldari
No.Mercy
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:05:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Potty on 16/04/2008 12:08:23
Edited by: Potty on 16/04/2008 12:06:23
Am going to stop quoting cuz its starting to deform the window.

In reply, Ship numbers dont really = a superiority in my books. Its more down to ship type. If they had no way to hold you on the gate, then just waiting there would mean you guys would jump in, take get a few hits then warp to then get a cloaker to make a warpin on top and you then proceed to **** them.

The log off I would guess was because they were worried about the same thing happening but at a safe.

Basically if they didnt have any bubbles then what they did would be what I would do (well, I would wait around till you warped out then do what they did :P) and my point stands. If they did have bubbles in place then really they did mess up big style and am wrong :D

Pazelya
Amarr
Spectrum Solutions INC
Angry Dogs
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:12:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Potty
Edited by: Potty on 16/04/2008 12:08:23
Edited by: Potty on 16/04/2008 12:06:23
Am going to stop quoting cuz its starting to deform the window.

In reply, Ship numbers dont really = a superiority in my books. Its more down to ship type. If they had no way to hold you on the gate, then just waiting there would mean you guys would jump in, take get a few hits then warp to then get a cloaker to make a warpin on top and you then proceed to **** them.

The log off I would guess was because they were worried about the same thing happening but at a safe.

Basically if they didnt have any bubbles then what they did would be what I would do (well, I would wait around till you warped out then do what they did :P) and my point stands. If they did have bubbles in place then really they did mess up big style and am wrong :D



so taking 100 ppl snipe fleet without any kind of dictor is not fail?Laughing

Potty
Caldari
No.Mercy
Gentlemen's Club
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:19:00 - [26]
 

Edited by: Potty on 16/04/2008 12:20:11
Yes, a big one :P

But this topic was trying to make out that Hydra warping away was the fail, which although it did fail in the end.. It was the right thing to do in that situation. :D.

Just a question that doenst really need an answer,if they did have a bubble, would you have jumped in? Maybe you did jump in because deep down you knew that without the bubble they had no real superiority :P.

Just food for thought. (W00t more minerals!).

PS. My god a proper tac talk on COAD that isnít OMG YOU FAIL LOLZ. I give it five minuets before CCP locks it :)

Yakiyo Korikei
Caldari
Quam Singulari
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:26:00 - [27]
 

Hydra Alliance fail, the only reason why they have 0,0 space is because they have brown noses and a crappy area which no proper alliance want.

Eiire
Caldari
The Nietzian Way
Hydra Alliance
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:32:00 - [28]
 

"so taking 100 ppl snipe fleet without any kind of dictor is not fail?"

No, feeling the need to post on here about it like it was something incredible for Phalanx is fail.

Sorry, not impressed.

Pazelya
Amarr
Spectrum Solutions INC
Angry Dogs
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:43:00 - [29]
 

Nah Potty, this topic was intended to say that Hydra is fail, not their warping off and loggin with agro :)

btw, just reported: one more hydra BS logged on and immediately off in v3x system..

Eiire, believe me we are not trying to impress you dude.. in fact i even dont know who you are...Laughing

Why'dyou HitMe
Minmatar
KAOS.
Imperial Republic Of the North
Posted - 2008.04.16 12:47:00 - [30]
 

The fact that Phalanx needed to post this topic is fail Laughing



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