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True 1
Caldari
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:50:00 - [1]
 

as any citizens of *mah Hemisphere* are likely to know, clocks went forwards by 1 hour this morning @ 4am, it is now 12:45, whereas in eve, it says 11:45,

is this just "how it is" and will be corrected when we go back an hour, or will eve time be put forward soon?

Only reason i noticed, is that igoogle gadget told me i had 3 mins left on a skill.. but buh, its an hour and 3 mins Shocked

Not important, not a particularly necessary thread, just something i've not previously noticed.

im also now very confused as to when our wardec goes live O.o, so actually, maybe it would be pretty cool to get some sort of answer, y'know if you have the time QuestionNeutralYARRRR!!

Lt Angus
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:52:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Lt Angus on 30/03/2008 11:52:13
Eve is always GMT, summertime is GMT+1

Margeth
Amarr
Deviance Inc
Primary.
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:52:00 - [3]
 

Yes, It's still GMT, No it doesn't have summer/winter time.

There you go, That's why.

Darth Ninjabadger
Caldari
m3 Corp
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:53:00 - [4]
 

GMT is GMT and always will be and that's the time that EVE uses.

European Summer Time has started and we are now 1 Hr ahead of EVE time until our clocks go back again in Autumn.

Caught me out beautifully this morning also. As to the wardec that will start 1hr later on your clock than it says in the mail.

Borsek
Gallente
Sephray Industries
Serenitas Solutus
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:54:00 - [5]
 

I'm guessing it's either changing at downtime, as in now, or not changing at all...

OR, maybe eve doesen't use DST (daylight saving time) at all, and that is the reason for no change.

Or it has smth. to do with all the things that depend on RL time... like skills, manufacturing etc. and if they changed the time we'd gain an hour now and lose one in autumn...

Dunno, we'll see.

ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:54:00 - [6]
 

Yup, GMT has no summer/wintertime changes, it stays what it is. It's your timezone that screwed you over. Your timezones' time changes relative to GMT, not the other way around.

Icycle
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:55:00 - [7]
 

This happens EVERY year by at least one person, usually ignorant British people who think they know right. (Yes im British)

Britain is not on GMT for the next few months. Its on BST (GMT +1).

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:55:00 - [8]
 

The in-game clock still shows the correct GMT, because like all time zones, GMT doesn't change with daylight savings.

Instead, countries change their time zones to reflect the change to summer: Brits, for instance, now sit in the BST timezone (which is GMT+1).

True 1
Caldari
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:56:00 - [9]
 

Thanks for spewing forth so many replies so quickly, yarr,


*pre post edit*

Balls.. i really wanted it to start when it was orignally going to start Sad

RagnarH
Minmatar
MASS
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:57:00 - [10]
 

Iceland dont have summertime. CCP keeps theyr game ofc on the same time as theyrs.

True 1
Caldari
Top Guns Inc.
StarFleet Federation
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:58:00 - [11]
 

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ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:01:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Brits, for instance, now sit in the BST timezone (which is GMT+1).


That'd be CET, Central european Time=GMT+1.
As said before, a time with a shift to summer/wintertime is not a timezone.
Timezones do not change.

Icycle
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:02:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: True 1
Originally by: Icycle
This happens EVERY year by at least one person, usually ignorant British people who think they know right. (Yes im British)

Britain is not on GMT for the next few months. Its on BST (GMT +1).



Thanks for calling us ignorant, cheers, perhaps ill carry on with NOT getting involved with this side of the community lol -

Given time to wake up, perhaps i wouldn't be so ignorant eh ^_^

you sir, win my corps WoW award (****er of the Week)

Enjoy


This happens every single year. I've yet to see a "OH NOES EVE CLOCK IS WRONG" thread regarding summer time, by a non-British person.

Icycle
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:02:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ZenTex
Originally by: Tippia
Brits, for instance, now sit in the BST timezone (which is GMT+1).


That'd be CET, Central european Time=GMT+1.
As said before, a time with a shift to summer/wintertime is not a timezone.
Timezones do not change.


It's also BST. (British Summer Time)

ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:05:00 - [15]
 

Which is, like I explained,, not a Timezonebut a name for a shifted time.
Timezones do NOT shift.


Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:07:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 30/03/2008 12:07:10
Originally by: ZenTex
That'd be CET, Central european Time=GMT+1.
As said before, a time with a shift to summer/wintertime is not a timezone.
Timezones do not change.
...which, as it happens is the same as BST. And BST most certainly is a time zone - it just so happens that no country is in it except in the summer half of the year.

Time zones do not shift, but countries do shift time zones.

Andrue
Amarr
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:13:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Andrue on 30/03/2008 12:16:23
Originally by: RagnarH
Iceland dont have summertime. CCP keeps theyr game ofc on the same time as theyrs.
That's probably just a coincedence. Every modern computer runs on UTC (which is the same as GMT). This is true regardless of where you live. The conversion to local time is performed only at the last minute for the convenience of us humans.

If you look at the time on a known file you will find that it has changed by one hour if you're in Europe. IOW a file that you know you edited at 6pm yesterday will now be showing as last changed at 7pm.

Basically - timezones are a human concept that causes computers confusion if they attempt to deal with it. The simplest solution was always to have every computer in the world operating in the same timezone and only calculate the local time when some dumb human asks for it.

Darwin Duck
Evil Monkey Asylum
Wile E Coyote's
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:14:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: ZenTex
Originally by: Tippia
Brits, for instance, now sit in the BST timezone (which is GMT+1).


That'd be CET, Central european Time=GMT+1.
As said before, a time with a shift to summer/wintertime is not a timezone.
Timezones do not change.


CET is GMT +2 now. I live in CET time and there is a 2 hour difference between GMT and CET now, due to summertime.

Gaven Blands
Caldari
Cosmic Fusion
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:16:00 - [19]
 

Thank god for CCP. Now I won't be late for work tomorrow.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:26:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Darwin Duck
CET is GMT +2 now. I live in CET time and there is a 2 hour difference between GMT and CET now, due to summertime.
No, CET is still GMT+1 - but those who lived in CET yesterday now live in CEST

ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:29:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Darwin Duck
Originally by: ZenTex
Originally by: Tippia
Brits, for instance, now sit in the BST timezone (which is GMT+1).


That'd be CET, Central european Time=GMT+1.
As said before, a time with a shift to summer/wintertime is not a timezone.
Timezones do not change.


CET is GMT +2 now. I live in CET time and there is a 2 hour difference between GMT and CET now, due to summertime.


No, no and no!
CET NEVER changes, CET will always be GMT+1.
It's the nationalities that change their time due to summer/wintertime. a TIMEZONE never changes. Your time is now CET+summertime=CET+1+1. CET never changes from GMT+1.

Cmon, I know abt timezones, As a seafaring navigation officer I deal with timezones all the time.

Icycle
Eclipse Industrials
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:34:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: ZenTex
As a seafaring navigation officer I deal with timezones all the time.


ZenTex wins the 'have a cookie' award!

Gieron
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:35:00 - [23]
 

Edited by: Gieron on 30/03/2008 12:37:19
Wikipedia says: WEST CEST EEST etc

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:36:00 - [24]
 

hehe, I was having bets with yuki about how many of these would pop up

ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:37:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Icycle
Originally by: ZenTex
As a seafaring navigation officer I deal with timezones all the time.


ZenTex wins the 'have a cookie' award!


Make it a chocolate chip cookie and You've made my day. Wink

BBQ
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:37:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Gieron
Wikipedia says: CEST


Give me a few minutes to edit it, will be back in a bit....

Never trust Wiki as anyone can edit it.

Gieron
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:40:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: BBQ
Never trust Wiki as anyone can edit it.


Never trust any single source of information. But Wikipedia is usually correct.

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.03.30 13:54:00 - [28]
 

As several people gave already said, Iceland has no summer daylight savings clock shift. As a result, EVE stays on GMT, since that provides a consistent time for us to access and maintain the server all year round.

Mozqito
Domain Logistics
Posted - 2008.03.30 15:41:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: ZenTex

Make it a chocolate chip cookie and You've made my day. Wink


How about a Danish butter cookie? Very Happy

Sanfrey Statolomy
Gallente
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
Posted - 2008.03.30 20:22:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
As several people gave already said, Iceland has no summer daylight savings clock shift. As a result, EVE stays on GMT, since that provides a consistent time for us to access and maintain the server all year round.


Would this be because Iceland has no summer! :)


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