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CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.03.30 01:46:00 - [1]
 

Who has seen it and what did you think?

Being an avid AVP fan from it's comic book days, I was hoping for more, but I didn't have high hopes after the first AVP movie. Needless to say, this failed to deliver again, but was at least more entertaining than the first one Evil or Very Mad

CCP Eris Discordia

Posted - 2008.03.30 01:48:00 - [2]
 

I liked it, but yeah the aliens seem a bit weak and unscary and since when do chestbusters come out after only a few minutes? Shocked

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.30 01:50:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
I liked it, but yeah the aliens seem a bit weak and unscary and since when do chestbusters come out after only a few minutes? Shocked


It started right after the predalien began experimenting with PCP

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2008.03.30 02:28:00 - [4]
 

When did the comic book come out?

I remember having the comics back in the early 90s. I think it was the same year as Alien 3 and possibly even before that film came out so it was still fairly fresh.

Since then I think they've pretty much wrung every possible variation of eggs, facehuggers, chestbursters, aliens tongues going through heads, predators taking people's heads as trophy's etc. etc. out of the series till there's just nothing left to do with any of it but rehash stuff that's already been done four times already.

Alien 3 was borderline and Alien 4 was chuffing horrible.

Not the best material to make a film that doesn't suck out of I think.

Jameroz
Echoes of Space
Posted - 2008.03.30 02:32:00 - [5]
 

I actually liked the first one more. Maybe it's because I'm a tech freak and loved the whole maze thing. Laughing
The second one didn't really have anything new and intresting in it.

Bosie
THE C0RP
Posted - 2008.03.30 02:53:00 - [6]
 

It came across as a poor remake of Aliens but set on Earth.

Joey1
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.30 03:23:00 - [7]
 

Sucked AVP original ftw :P

Not tacky enough tbh

Ixianus
Posted - 2008.03.30 05:03:00 - [8]
 

This movie was absolutely horrible. Stay away from it.
In the event that you do see it you will wish you hadn't.

Stephen HB
Mystical Knights
Malum Exuro
Posted - 2008.03.30 05:51:00 - [9]
 

Is it just me or did the predator's 'Alien' vision get a major downgrade from AvP to Requiem? In the first one it was detailed, could cycle through modes (to e.g. see unhatched facehuggers in their eggs or chestbursters prior to eruption) and was just generally awesome. In this second movie it's a blurry, washed out green-yellow mess, it's a wonder it could hit the side of an alien coloured barn with it's plasma caster.

Note: special mode to track facehugger slime = very cool.

Multras
D00M.
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2008.03.30 06:29:00 - [10]
 

Didnt take place in the future so I didn't give a **** about it. And the comics ruled.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.03.30 06:44:00 - [11]
 

The one and only thing which annoyed me to no end was the whole "oh, look, we can get from facehugger to full-grown xenomorph in under 60 seconds" jig. I mean, COME ON !
But, IF you could ignore that part (pretty hard to do, really, but, meh, whatever, I've had worse "suspension of disbelief" attempts), and if you could also "ignore" you have seen the rest of the Alien/Predator movies altogether ("continuity breaks" galore), the rest was pretty much enjoyable, more than the first one.
I especially liked the whole "(almost) everybody dies" approach.

Kyanzes
Amarr
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.03.30 07:10:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Kyanzes on 30/03/2008 07:12:50

I have yet to see a movie that could replace Aliens. This one couldn't even replace the first instalment of the AvP series. AvP2 has a pretty shallow story with unimportant characters that you love to see inner-jawed by aliens and impaled by the predator. Also, aliens half as impressive when they are out in the wild, and this movie lacked closed places. The military acted as if they weren't even there. A few shots and pretty much everyone was alrady dead. Military hardware mustered in this movie was highly unimpressive save for the bomb that finally wasted that unlovable sheriff and his lackeys. Then a few teenagers with no place to make love suddenly turn into fierce warriors and start to pwn. Get out of here! They turned the Alien franchise into Fun Factory.

Hint for directors: when in doubt make sure you don't do anything the same way James Cameron did because your movie would be too good for the masses.

Here's my opinion of the movie.





Kyguard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.03.30 08:49:00 - [13]
 

Yeah it sucked, the alien on predator action wasn't even that good, not to mention the chiildplay storyline.

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2008.03.30 09:46:00 - [14]
 

I thought AvP2 was okay, worth watching once, But i remember the comics being much darker

Leferati
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:27:00 - [15]
 

it's no better than a tv movie and even then that's making it sound good Rolling Eyes

Great Artista
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:40:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Great Artista on 30/03/2008 11:44:05
What the hell?
Can't people make movies without the bloody annoying teen romances, are they mandatory these days or what? Evil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

*Edited out the naughty word Surprised

DanjSmith
UoH Eve Corp
Posted - 2008.03.30 11:52:00 - [17]
 

I thought it was alright, watched it not expecting a masterpiece but a fairly mindless action film, which is basically what it is.

Shame that it went from the first one having 2 out of the 3 preds being total wusses, now in this one all but one alien (the pred-alien) being wussy and basically in it for cannon fodder. Surely can't be that hard to make both sides seem as menacing as in the origional films can it?

Xanos Blackpaw
Amarr
Inadeptus Mechanicus
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:17:00 - [18]
 

i'm thinking of going to see it...do it got:

1) lots of blood?
2) giant black bug like things that eat people?
3) big predators that stabb people with claws?
4) space ships?
5) boobies?Cool

Zaiyo Modi
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.03.30 12:41:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Zaiyo Modi on 30/03/2008 12:41:33
Originally by: Ixianus
This movie was absolutely horrible. Stay away from it.
In the event that you do see it you will wish you hadn't.


This kind of comment has got to rank as the dumbest and most useless one on the internet regarding opinions on movies. How annoying to read these at the Internet Movie Database IMDB, but really also awkward anywhere.

Statements like "stay away from it" should be reserved for "Chairman of the board". ^^

Xen Gin
Silurian Operations
Posted - 2008.03.30 13:19:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Xen Gin on 30/03/2008 13:19:55
It was OK as a bit of entertainment, but it does absolutely nothing for the genre. With the original films, they made them as swearing and gory as possible, nowadays they scale it back to 15+ to target a wider audience which means the film suffers as a whole. Also the over use of CGI stretches the budget and the CGI quality is also reduced, because so many scenes have to be rendered.

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.03.30 13:38:00 - [21]
 

I found it funny that the Aliens killed willy nilly, and the movie didn't detract from killing off otherwise generally accepted 'untouchable' characters. This includes children, love interests, preganant mothers and their unborn babies, etc.

Which leads me onto another point; since when has an Alien had the capability of impregnating someone. Thats what the facehuggers were for. I understand that it's a shallow alternate version of the AVP universe, but it simply takes too many liberties with the existing Alien story.

Furthermore, the Aliens seemed ridiculously subpar in this. In previous movies, they were violent killers, stronger, faster, and more resilient than anything encountered to date. In this, they're wimpy, only filled with acid when the movie needs it, and prone to falling over dead after a single gun shot.

I was hoping that the movie was going to redeem the audio/visual interpretation of the franchise, but I fear it's done nothing but remind me that Hollywood bastardises almost every previously existing franchise it gets hold of.

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.30 22:58:00 - [22]
 

Better than AVP1, but still awful. In fact, this actually makes it worse.

I mean, the first one was so bad that it had a sort of cheesy, mockable fun about it's awfulness that made it fairly enjoyable to sit through. This one was just good enough not to be fun, while still being a complete failure as a horror/action/thriller film.


Plus, the whole "Predalien" thing was done pretty terribly. Being vaguely acquainted with the comics and video games, I knew a little about the concept already...and the film just did it badly. It was basically a bigger, slower alien, right? Well don't we already have those (from previous media) from the human-alien strain? Also, the impregnating women thing made absolutely no sense whatsoever, and the fact that a single unarmed Predator (remember, the first Predator ever seen was successfully beaten to a pulp by Arnie in the original film, once unarmed) could kill it (and a myriad of other aliens) just seemed stupid.

Not to mention the other continuity problems: variable acid (sometimes it was strong enough to melt an entire human arm in 20 seconds, sometimes it didn't seem to be there at all...), instant aliens (2 hours from egg to adult), no queen or other similar canon alien behaviour (or was that supposed to be a "Predqueen" or something?), aliens that sometimes die from 2 gunshot wounds and sometimes survive being minced to pieces, a "military response" that consisted of about 15 men who died in like 3 minutes, and a Predator who seems driven by distinctly un-Predator-like emotions (revenge? desire to control an alien outbreak? having a daytrip?).

Reiisha
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.03.31 03:14:00 - [23]
 

Games > movies.

Nuff said.

Orion Eridanus
Dark Ashes
Posted - 2008.03.31 05:37:00 - [24]
 

Any AVP movie that doesnt have any combination of Arnold, Danny Glover or Colonial Marines and Sigourney Weaver = Fail

Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.03.31 06:12:00 - [25]
 

It looked very good on the trailers but that was pretty much all the good points in the movie.. the whole lad droppin pizza off to some random house - gettin his ass kicked US bull**** meh - boring ..

We wanted more preds!! more Aliens / better aliens!! more hives darker scaryer like alien 1..

more Cowbell

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.31 06:34:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Patch86


Predator who seems driven by distinctly un-Predator-like emotions (revenge? desire to control an alien outbreak? having a daytrip?).


I can answer this one... the predator ship wasn't meant to crash and release the aliens, so he was on a mission to destroy all the aliens and every possible host. Also I'm pretty sure him and the Predator in the ship were of the same clan and he had to save face Wink

Jas Dakarii
Posted - 2008.03.31 08:33:00 - [27]
 

Quote:
(remember, the first Predator ever seen was successfully beaten to a pulp by Arnie in the original film, once unarmed)


Thats not really true, in the first Predator movie, even unarmed the predator beat the ever living crap out of Arnie. The only reason Arnie lived was the Predator made one mistake and had a freakin part of a tree dropped on its head.


I found Avp2 Enjoyable and frustrating to watch. It had good things but, they did get shadowed by the really stupid things like the dorky teen romance.


The thing I still don't get about the AvP movies, is that pretty much every single Fan of the idea of AvP movies. Wants them in the freaking future with Colonial Space Marines, predators, Aliens, Weyland-Yutani installations and aliens running amok, predators killing willy nilly and the Marines shooting first asking questions later.

So why did they decide to put the franchise in modern times and start completely screwing with the established alien lifecycle?


Hell if they had just made the PC Avp2 game into a movie it would of kicked so much more *** then the two movies we've gotten.

ry ry
Heroes.
Merciless.
Posted - 2008.03.31 09:48:00 - [28]
 

Aliens > Predator > Alien > Alien 3 > AVP > Predator 2 > AVP2 > Alien Resurrection.

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.31 10:03:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: ry ry
Aliens > Predator > Alien > Alien 3 > AVP > Predator 2 > AVP2 > Alien Resurrection.


I don't get it... is that your list of favorites in order? If so, AvP is better than Predator 2?

Erotic Irony
0bsession
Posted - 2008.03.31 10:05:00 - [30]
 

now val kilmer in the salton sea, holy **** he's the man


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