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Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:51:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 15:55:12
I just wanted to point out that I have some friends that do this. I don't yet cause I don't have kids but when I do I'm certainly gonna do this.

Eve + Children = ProfitWink

I met a guy a couple of weeks ago that lets his 8 year old play eve mining! WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA~!!@#!ExclamationIdeaVery Happy He bought the character and the ship with his isk and gave them to his kid.Wink I can see it now... "Jr. When you're done with your homework then you can go mine for daddy, but right now it's homework time" 10 mins later "Well, homework was never important anyway get to work!!!!"LaughingExclamation I'm thinking if I put the right spin on it they'll LOVE mining so much they'll want to do it all day. Or if that gets old maybe mission running or something.YARRRR!! Man when summer time comes around I'm gonna be so rich!Twisted Evil

I only wanted one or two kids before but I think I'll make a whole flock now. A herd even. Just wait till my wife hears this one. Can't get me for that CCP, they're not macros they're mini-mes HAHAHAHA!Twisted Evil


---Let the flames begin--- Arrow

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:52:00 - [2]
 

What could possibly go wrong?

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:54:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
What could possibly go wrong?


God I know it's a perfect master plan. Sweet. I think I'll get started on a batch tonight.

Kerdrak
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:54:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
I just wanted to point out that I have some friends that do this. I don't yet cause I don't have kids but when I do I'm certainly gonna do this.

Eve + Children = Profit

I met a guy a couple of weeks ago that lets his 8 year old play eve mining! WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA~!!@#! He bought the character and the ship with his isk and gave them to his kid. I can see it now... "Jr. When you're done with your homework then you can go mine for daddy, but right now it's homework time" 10 mins later "Well, homework was never important anyway get to work!!!!" I'm thinking if I put the right spin on it they'll LOVE mining so much they'll want to do it all day. Or if that gets old maybe mission running or something. Man when summer time comes around I'm gonna be so rich!

I only wanted one or two kids before but I think I'll make a whole flock now. A herd even. Just wait till my wife hears this one. Can't get me for that CCP, they're not macros they're mini-mes HAHAHAHA!


---Let the flames begin---


You will pay for this by having your childs in home till they turn 30-35 years Laughing

Gaven Blands
Caldari
Cosmic Fusion
Systematic-Chaos
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:54:00 - [5]
 

I got an evemail from a war target once (nice guy), it said something like "My little lad came running outside crying, 'everything is exploding and I can't move'"

Ahh bliss.


I never understood those toy vacuum cleaners they give kids. Give them a REAL vacuum cleaner and let them loose.

Nyabinghi
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:56:00 - [6]
 

Laughing Child labor comes to EVE. God, has pixel stuff come to mean that much?

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 13:56:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Kerdrak


You will pay for this by having your childs in home till they turn 30-35 years Laughing


hmmn that's a good point... but by then eve won't be around and I probably won't care. I have no problems paying for a place for them to live if they're profitable enough. If not... Chinese work force for you.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:00:00 - [8]
 

Ok let's estimate... the cost of raising a child to 18 years of age, what US$100,000?

Now instead, let's assume you spend that 100k buying 90d GTC's - $38.95 a pop - that's 2,567 GTCs, and you sell them cheap for 400M in the Timecode Bazaar - that will make you about 1,026 billion ISK.

So question is, will your kids mine 1 Trillion ISK before getting tired and moving away from you - or do you want to spend that cash buying instant fortune?

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:04:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 14:13:29
Originally by: Chribba
Ok let's estimate... the cost of raising a child to 18 years of age, what US$100,000?

Now instead, let's assume you spend that 100k buying 90d GTC's - $38.95 a pop - that's 2,567 GTCs, and you sell them cheap for 400M in the Timecode Bazaar - that will make you about 1,026 billion ISK.

So question is, will your kids mine 1 Trillion ISK before getting tired and moving away from you - or do you want to spend that cash buying instant fortune?


That's a good argument for not having more, but I guess when my wife suckers me into having kids there will be a bright side. There's also the realization that 100, 200 thou whatever that cost is spread out over 18 years. It's like really short term and expensive house loan. So taking the math further at 200,000 that's about 30 bucks a day and that means they're pure profit if I can get them to put in about 400mil isk a day. We know that's not going to be possible so we'd have to look at this as a loss mitigation. I lose 30 bucks a day raising a human child, but to supplement that loss I get a retirement plan and a steady supply of eve isk until they move out, possibly longer. I think it's a better deal than just raising the child lets be honest.

BTW chribba look for the eve-file guide soon. "How to sucker your kids into making you an eve fortune." I promise it's coming in a few years.

Letouk Mernel
Caldari
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:04:00 - [10]
 

EVE + Old Retired Parents = Profit also.

Allright, old man, you can barely move, can't work anymore, your retirement allowance barely pays for some of the food, and there's rent, medical bills that Medicare doesn't cover, and so on, so get mining!

Revenge.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:04:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 27/03/2008 14:05:04
Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
I just wanted to point out that I have some friends that do this. I don't yet cause I don't have kids but when I do I'm certainly gonna do this.

Eve + Children = Profit

I met a guy a couple of weeks ago that lets his 8 year old play eve mining! WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA~!!@#! He bought the character and the ship with his isk and gave them to his kid. I can see it now... "Jr. When you're done with your homework then you can go mine for daddy, but right now it's homework time" 10 mins later "Well, homework was never important anyway get to work!!!!" I'm thinking if I put the right spin on it they'll LOVE mining so much they'll want to do it all day. Or if that gets old maybe mission running or something. Man when summer time comes around I'm gonna be so rich!

I only wanted one or two kids before but I think I'll make a whole flock now. A herd even. Just wait till my wife hears this one. Can't get me for that CCP, they're not macros they're mini-mes HAHAHAHA!


---Let the flames begin---


Well, you might not be caught for macroing, but you can be caught for account sharing.

Using your own children for such tasks unobserved, can be looked on just like that: Account sharing! So I would stop now if I where you, and rather let the children take the dishes instead while you play! YARRRR!!


Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:06:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 14:09:05
Originally by: Letouk Mernel
EVE + Old Retired Parents = Profit also.

Allright, old man, you can barely move, can't work anymore, your retirement allowance barely pays for some of the food, and there's rent, medical bills that Medicare doesn't cover, and so on, so get mining!

Revenge.


God it's a perfect master plan. God will strike us down for finding such an incredible loophole in the universe. I think I'm gonna teach my wife's grandmother. She's german so she could get into the PA or something. Act doubly as a spy. HAHAHA


Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker

Well, you might not be caught for macroing, but you can be caught for account sharing.

Using your own children for such tasks unobserved, can be looked on just like that: Account sharing! So I would stop now if I where you, and rather let the children take the dishes instead while you play! YARRRR!!



Phwwet dishes can be handled by my wife. The kids and I play... err work rather. And account sharing? WTh is that? no... I'd never let a n00b on my acct. They'd get their own accounts. As a perk. Same with Grandma. If she's gonna live on my dime in my house or in a nursing home she's gonna make me some isk.

Selene Lunaglaux
Trit for the Trit Throne
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:07:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Chribba
Ok let's estimate... the cost of raising a child to 18 years of age, what US$100,000?


Just estimated at a little over US$200,000, actually.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:10:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Well, you might not be caught for macroing, but you can be caught for account sharing.

Using your own children for such tasks unobserved, can be looked on just like that: Account sharing! So I would stop now if I where you, and rather let the children take the dishes instead while you play! YARRRR!!

Oh ho ho, this is indeed not true if they're 18. I'm pretty sure it says so in the EULA. Very Happy

PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente
The Night Crew
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:11:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Letouk Mernel
EVE + Old Retired Parents = Profit also.

Allright, old man, you can barely move, can't work anymore, your retirement allowance barely pays for some of the food, and there's rent, medical bills that Medicare doesn't cover, and so on, so get mining!

Revenge.


Id imagine this is exactly whats going through this kids mind as he spins his retriever in a 0.8 belt.

soon...soon...


Amarth Thargan
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:14:00 - [16]
 

Also some suicide gankers might go out and beat up your kids at school.

No shielding, hull or armor
No concord with big guns

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Amarth Thargan
Also some suicide gankers might go out and beat up your kids at school.

No shielding, hull or armor
No concord with big guns


Eh it's the price we all pay. But I can get my corpmates to bbq them into a stargate whenever the bullies come back online. Heck we'll let the kid come to put the final blow on him.

Myros Glimmbrand
Ganja Co
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:25:00 - [18]
 

I used to get my daughter to run escort for me, never could get her to mine though ... kids!

Sadly she's off playing WoW or somesuch these days ... guess I need to beat her more often ;p

Myros

Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:26:00 - [19]
 


Find someone to baby sit for who has 7 kids and goes out a lot.
Get some cheap laptops that can run Eve classic.
Profit!

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:29:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 14:32:55
Originally by: Fink Angel

Find someone to baby sit for who has 7 kids and goes out a lot.
Get some cheap laptops that can run Eve classic.
Profit!


OMG PYRAMID SCHEME>>@!$#!@ $% If I have all daughters by the time they're all about 16 I can start raising profits exponentially. Geez this is sick and awesome. I can't wait. I don't think I've ever wanted some kids so bad.

Originally by: Myros Glimmbrand
I used to get my daughter to run escort for me, never could get her to mine though ... kids!

Sadly she's off playing WoW or somesuch these days ... guess I need to beat her more often ;p

Myros


Hey man it's all in the genes. We can't all have the eve gene. If you didn't beat her then it won't work now. At least that's the way I hear it goes. You gotta get them started young. That way it's nostalgic later. Shoulda gotten her on it at like 5 or six cause at that point mining is all they can handle. Then later on it'd be like legos or barbie or whatever. They'd do it just to get that little kid feeling again. So yeah sorry about your loss. Oh well there's always WoW. If she plays the sims though I feel really sorry for you. Ouch.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:50:00 - [21]
 

have them run level 4s, better isk/hr ugh

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:54:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Well, you might not be caught for macroing, but you can be caught for account sharing.

Using your own children for such tasks unobserved, can be looked on just like that: Account sharing! So I would stop now if I where you, and rather let the children take the dishes instead while you play! YARRRR!!

Oh ho ho, this is indeed not true if they're 18. I'm pretty sure it says so in the EULA. Very Happy
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Ok, maybe it is allowed. But it is still typical for the average EVE player to exploit things to your own gain. And when you cant exploit the game game mechanics without gettin the ban stick, its very common to exploit things you can get away with, and I guess exploiting children to do your labour work is a "reasonable" thing to do - since - after all, at home its you who sit with the ban stick. And it is you who are the moderator.. Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

NeoTheo
M'8'S
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:56:00 - [23]
 

i can just see it now,

me : "sweetie, we need to have children soon"
the missus: "wtf you always said no!"
me: "they can mine in eve for me"
the missus: "DIVORCE PAPERS".

Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:57:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
OMG PYRAMID SCHEME>>@!$#!@ $% If I have all daughters by the time they're all about 16 I can start raising profits exponentially. Geez this is sick and awesome. I can't wait. I don't think I've ever wanted some kids so bad.



But you'll get suicide ganked on the stairs by your own kids who demand Pock3t Moneyz HAxx.

The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
Posted - 2008.03.27 14:59:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Attrezzo Pox
Originally by: Malcanis
What could possibly go wrong?


God I know it's a perfect master plan. Sweet. I think I'll get started on a batch tonight.


You know you need a female friend to help, right? Doing it on your own won't work, that just makes you a ****er RazzRazzRazz

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2008.03.27 15:01:00 - [26]
 

You can get em to make 400 mil/day if they dual account run lev 4's with 2 high SP chars and are not eating too often. Say ... a 12 h/day sounds allright ? Afterall they are kids and it's not wrong in letting them play, right ? Or if you get each of them mine with 4 or 5 accounts. To save costs you can make em to it in shifts as if they are underage and your family memebers then account sharing is not against EULA if I understand it correct.

What a brilliant plan. And they were worried in EU that people are getting old and there is not enough new births :p

Attrezzo Pox
Amarr
The Concordiat
Concordiat Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 15:04:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 15:08:06
Edited by: Attrezzo Pox on 27/03/2008 15:07:05
Originally by: The TX


You know you need a female friend to help, right? Doing it on your own won't work, that just makes you a ****er RazzRazzRazz


You realize I'm married and she wants kids. I don't tell her the plan I just plant the seed. Then when the time comes I tell her me and Jr are spending family time together and viola no objections. And besides that doesn't stop anyone. There's always adoption which is even better cause you can get one at 5 or six and skip the baby days. Just get em straight to work.

Originally by: Fink Angel
Move to Iceland
Bring up loads of kids with leet programing skills
Wait 18 years
Get them jobs at CCP
Haxxor teh database machiene that maeks ISK
Profit


Now we're getting a little far fetched. I talked to Pan once on IRC and she says they have bad mexican food up there. I can't survive without mexican food... Good mexican food.


Really people admit it... It's the best idea you've ever seen. Ever. Like the wheel or fire. Maybe even beer. I should have kept it to myself and sold it. But hey, I'm not that greedy.

Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
Posted - 2008.03.27 15:04:00 - [28]
 

Move to Iceland
Bring up loads of kids with leet programing skills
Wait 18 years
Get them jobs at CCP
Haxxor teh database machiene that maeks ISK
Profit

Qutan
Gallente
Paxton Industries
Paxton Federation
Posted - 2008.03.27 15:38:00 - [29]
 

Have you guys only just started useing your kids to mine pve etc Ive been doing it for years ours pay the subscription with their pocket money Twisted Evil

This is not an alt or one of my children/slave workers

As for letting your kids play wow Rolling Eyes

Not a pirate I just love the YARRRR!!


DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2008.03.27 15:39:00 - [30]
 



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