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Erik Amirault
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:48:00 - [31]
 

I was the one who killed you. Your loot was so bad I just destroyed the can afterward.

Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:51:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Ioci
The whole Concord mechanics was put in to declare certain areas of the game 'safe'.


You are wrong. Not 'safe', the term you are looking for is 'safer', and yes hisec IS safer, you don't see every gate camped by hordes of smartbombing hacs and bcs do you? Noob systems are not full of people splattering all the rookie ships as soon as they undock are they? Yea there is SOME suicide ganking going on, but thats part of the rules, and it is part of CCP's design.

CONCORD is there to punish people who do bad things, and they do their job just fine. If you do not like the way the game works, go play something else, as EVE is not the place for you.

Pithecanthropus
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:56:00 - [33]
 

why is this game filled with idiots?... and I'm not speaking about the op.

Johli
Caldari
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:57:00 - [34]
 

I vote that we have a blinding, neon like banner on the login screen from now on that says "EMPIRE SPACE IS NOT SAFE", and you need to type it twelve times over and over again until you can login.

Heimer
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2008.03.26 22:44:00 - [35]
 

...iN mIxED CasE -- and you have to match the case of each letter to get in.

Clinically
Gallente
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Posted - 2008.03.26 22:52:00 - [36]
 

Awww the prudy ship went kaboom.

Wanna hug?

Ratuu
Gallente
The Darkness Within
Posted - 2008.03.26 23:02:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Lorna Loot

[red]OMG .......(lots of red (which I can't recreate for whatever reason) writing which hurt my eyes [RED]




OMG u are so full of **** your eyes are brown.

OMG I didn't get killed. I watched someone else.

OMG, you assumed.
Welcome to Eve anti anything that doesn't start with Me Me Me


So, what maybe DID happen was...

...Someone responded to a can flip and lost their ship (the raven)

...The person who set them up (shot them for looting a can or whatever) then accidently podded them out of pure blood lust.

...CONCORD didn't like this so turned up to kill the nasty wabbit for shooting the raven owner's pod.

...You saw this and thought "OMG WTF some dude lost a raven and CONCORD were slow.."

...You thought you'd act in righteous indignation and post about it.

...Nobody appeared to give a damm so you thought you'd slag them off (although I agree the red wall of letters was overkill).

That's my take on events given the facts presented thus far... any further clues???



Silent Samuel
EFT Warriors
Red Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.26 23:19:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Pithecanthropus
why is this game filled with idiots?... and I'm not speaking about the op.


I blame steam and wow..

gfldex
Posted - 2008.03.26 23:24:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Ioci
OMG I didn't get killed. I watched someone else.


You even failed to lose your ship? Please, for the love of god, quit EVE.

Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness.
Posted - 2008.03.26 23:30:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Concord punish the attacker? LOL..not really. The attacker loses about nothing. Remove insurance and we can talk about punishment from concord.


really? then you lost nothign too. Because you got insurance too.

SchirmerN
Amarr
x13
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.26 23:57:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.


Someone gank this dude!


Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.03.27 04:22:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Billy Sastard
Originally by: Ioci
The whole Concord mechanics was put in to declare certain areas of the game 'safe'.


You are wrong. Not 'safe', the term you are looking for is 'safer', and yes hisec IS safer, you don't see every gate camped by hordes of smartbombing hacs and bcs do you? Noob systems are not full of people splattering all the rookie ships as soon as they undock are they? Yea there is SOME suicide ganking going on, but thats part of the rules, and it is part of CCP's design.

CONCORD is there to punish people who do bad things, and they do their job just fine. If you do not like the way the game works, go play something else, as EVE is not the place for you.


Rubbish. Utter and absolute rubbish.

Hey I know. Lets put roaming black ops Concord fleets in Nul sec to slap the pee rats around. Then we will see who the real cry babies are in Eve. Let them have about 5% chance to evade. That's 5% more chance people have of surviving safe sec gank fleets. I'm betting the boards will fill up with thousands of whiner threads.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.03.27 04:24:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: SchirmerN
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.


Someone gank this dude!




Well said. Someone. But not you, chicken ****.

Marcus TheMartin
Gallente
Tuxedo.
Posted - 2008.03.27 04:44:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: SchirmerN
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.


Someone gank this dude!




Well said. Someone. But not you, chicken ****.


Shut up you docked in station toughguy

nihlanth
Amarr
Posted - 2008.03.27 04:46:00 - [45]
 

The trolls have grown fat and cranky today I see.

Skebet
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.27 06:42:00 - [46]
 

Watching someone else lose a Raven is "new heights"?

I hope this is a troll. Really.

Terminus adacai
Caldari
Racey Bee
Posted - 2008.03.27 07:13:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Danui
can someone from CCP close these threads please :S they are poluting the forums.
I really don't get people don't get it that even in high sec they can loose their ship...
On big RTFM for all the people who whine about loosing a ship to pirates


There is a reason that there are so many gank threads. Open your mind and think about it.

I have never been ganked, nor intend to. I do not AFK haul or mine. I am however fed up with a game mechanic that rewards gankers with an insurance payout.

Where is their risk vs reward? Obviously the hauler or miner is working for their reward. How does getting reimbursed for a concord kill of a ship equal risk? How many gankers are using main accounts?


Danui
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2008.03.27 07:45:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Terminus adacai


There is a reason that there are so many gank threads. Open your mind and think about it.

I have never been ganked, nor intend to. I do not AFK haul or mine. I am however fed up with a game mechanic that rewards gankers with an insurance payout.

Where is their risk vs reward? Obviously the hauler or miner is working for their reward. How does getting reimbursed for a concord kill of a ship equal risk? How many gankers are using main accounts?




Well, if people were a bit more smarter and taking care of their ship, took some advice from the many guides in the beginners section, i believe empire safe would be a much safer place. It is because the gankers find so many easy prey, they do it.

Zeveron
Exiled Gathering
HELL4S
Posted - 2008.03.27 09:37:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Zeveron on 27/03/2008 09:38:04
remove insurance payout when a ship is destroyed from concord.

Problem solved

Concord is there not to protect you but to punish the attackers.
The problem is that the punishment is non existant atm.

Lara Renquist
Minmatar
F.R.E.E. Explorer
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.03.27 09:43:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Kagura Nikon
Originally by: Shintai
Concord punish the attacker? LOL..not really. The attacker loses about nothing. Remove insurance and we can talk about punishment from concord.


really? then you lost nothign too. Because you got insurance too.



Oh dear.... you are cluelles aren't you?

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.03.27 09:58:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Zeveron
Edited by: Zeveron on 27/03/2008 09:38:04
remove insurance payout when a ship is destroyed from concord.

Problem solved

Concord is there not to protect you but to punish the attackers.
The problem is that the punishment is non existant atm.


Problem?

What problem?

Clone 1
Posted - 2008.03.27 10:04:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Ioci on 19th March 08
Suicide Ganking, mission griefing.

In game, I have never been exposed to these things. I don't Autopilot. It makes no sense. I have made 30 jump destinations in 20 minutes to half an hr. Old school players have thier Nav skills from the days when bookmark runs were the standard and you needed to make the 15 km runs. So warping out is your only risk and if you want to be a hauler, be a Navigator. This will void much of the risk.

Missions. I've done fleet missions where 5 of us went in and did our level 4. I have solo ran hundreds of 3's. I have never had anyone warp to my mission. I suspect these are as random as solo peerats in null and just enough of a nuisance to say they are one. I will also accuse CCP of 'checking out' player activity. That is of course an unsupported accusation but I don't care Rolling Eyes. All too often it's way too convenient seeing a gank group show up in a sys, be in your belt in 10 secs. Web, scram and jam you in under a minute. It reminds me alot of the days when Yahoo chat was fun and in 5 minutes your successfull chat became a spam fest. Need to keep the traffic moving, keep the ad banners rolling. Back to the point. Farm for a while, flip toons, do it somewhere else. I can't do more than 3 Level 3 before it gets old. Never had an incursion. So farmers are the ones getting the grief and I think it's design. If there is a player base that actively do this.. god, get a life. That would be so boring.

I'm sure these problems are real. Very minimal but real. All in all though, not that abundant and not a serious issue. Not to suggest these things aren't issues. It still needs to be put into perspective. Most of Eve can't relate.



Classic

Sarkkon
Posted - 2008.03.27 10:06:00 - [53]
 

The OP failed to mention the "raven" in question was piloted by one asdfasdsdsd(this was a random keyboard spam, any similarity to real player in game just means there are too many keyboard spam names) with over 8 billion ISK in faction fitings.

The OP needs to realize that these items need to be liberated from the dirty clutches of "always on" accounts played in shifts by farmers involved in violating the EULA by a real money ISK trade. While its unfortunate, cramming 8bil + ISK onto a single ship, even a battleship is inviting trouble. Suicide gank is a NECESARY part of EVE. Not for taking fitings from the stupid, but, how to fix that idiot that smacktalks, steals and hides but is easy to find when NOT flagged and never leaves his cozy carebear NPC corp? Do you want CCP to make it impossible for you to do anything to him?

Dont worry so much about the other guy, the only issue i have with the suicide gankers is alot of these are disposable alt accoutns that are replaced when sec is too low to be usefull. Concords response time has been increased twice since i started playing EVE, the NUMBER and strength of gate sentries has also been increased.

STOP the nerf whining already....
STOP IT


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