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Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:10:00 - [1]
 

A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.


Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:11:00 - [2]
 

That was your first BS, wasn't it?

Oh, and welcome to Eve.

Uzuness
Perkone
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:11:00 - [3]
 

This is why I don't leave station.. and only play for 15 minutes a day.

Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Naqam
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:19:00 - [4]
 

Any ship can be suicide ganked given enough numbers.

How many people were on your KM?

Angelonico
Helljumpers
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:37:00 - [5]
 

Can I have your... oh nevermind.

Ralagina
Caldari
ReviveX Fleet
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.03.26 04:38:00 - [6]
 

Dude, freighters can be destroyed before concord shows up...

Pink Lemonade
Posted - 2008.03.26 06:08:00 - [7]
 

so ... what did you fit it with?

Alexi Zhukov
Caldari
Posted - 2008.03.26 06:50:00 - [8]
 

Sorry to hear about your loss.

Concord is there to punish those that break the law, not necessarily prevent players from committing them. High sec space simply means people will find a high amount of security in that space. There is no absolute "secure" space, only levels of high and higher security. I believe what you're looking for is a PVE server, but those don't exist here.

If you're really worried about suicide gankers, my best suggestion for you is to stay in 1.0 territory, as you'll find Concord's repsonse times better than in a 0.7

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.03.26 07:07:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.

They do have total control over the game.
They WANT you to lose your ship.
The attacker then lose theirs.
And a bit of security rating.
And that's all.

Seriously, read the knowledge base.
CONCORD is not there to SAVE you from the suicide-gankers, but to PUNISH THEM after the fact.
It was never intended for CONCORD to save you from everybody, just from the very weak attackers.


Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2008.03.26 07:13:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Riho on 26/03/2008 08:10:07
Edited by: Riho on 26/03/2008 07:14:03
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.




CONCORD DOES NOT PROTECT YOU, ONLY PUNISHES PEOPLE WHO ENGAGE IN ILLEGAL ACTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: YOU ARE NOT SAFE ANYWHERE, EXCEPT IN A STATION !!!!!!!!

i hope this is clear to all who sofar havent understood the game :P

all perfectly legal... stop flying CNRs whit 10bil in fittings.... damn carebears

Read this allso... CCPs views on things

Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
Posted - 2008.03.26 07:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Dirk Magnum on 26/03/2008 07:19:13
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.


Come on guys this is really old hat at this point. 1/10

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.

They do have total control over the game.
They WANT you to lose your ship.
The attacker then lose theirs.
And a bit of security rating.
And that's all.

Seriously, read the knowledge base.
CONCORD is not there to SAVE you from the suicide-gankers, but to PUNISH THEM after the fact.
It was never intended for CONCORD to save you from everybody, just from the very weak attackers.



QFFT in case OP was serious.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.03.26 07:21:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Dirk Magnum
Come on guys this is really old hat at this point. 1/10

Smart troll vs genuine idiot, who can tell the difference these days ?
Since the smart trolls have taken a percentual dive compared to the genuine idiots, I guess it's safe to assume the latter.
Which, of course, empowers the smart trolls even more, to some degree.
But then again, they get lost in the mass of pre-exisying flames anyway, so there's even less of an incentive to bother.
*sigh*

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2008.03.26 07:51:00 - [13]
 

Concord punish the attacker? LOL..not really. The attacker loses about nothing. Remove insurance and we can talk about punishment from concord.

Ghost Riderr
Posted - 2008.03.26 10:16:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Concord punish the attacker? LOL..not really. The attacker loses about nothing. Remove insurance and we can talk about punishment from concord.


I agree, there is no real punishment when they lose no isk, and sec. stat means nothing for these guys

Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
Posted - 2008.03.26 10:23:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Shintai
Concord punish the attacker? LOL..not really. The attacker loses about nothing. Remove insurance and we can talk about punishment from concord.


Yes, Concord punish the attacker. They destroy their ship. This is punishment.

Now, as to whether Pend Insurance unfairly recompense the attacker, you may have a point. But that has nothing to do with Concord.

Oh, and to the OP: ENOUGH WITH THE BLOODY SUICIDE GANK THREADS ALREADY. WE KNOW, AND WE MAY OR MAY NOT SHARE YOUR PAIN.

Danui
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Posted - 2008.03.26 10:32:00 - [16]
 

can someone from CCP close these threads please :S they are poluting the forums.
I really don't get people don't get it that even in high sec they can loose their ship...
On big RTFM for all the people who whine about loosing a ship to pirates

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.03.26 10:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.




They have control over the game. They want this sort of thing to happen.

it's in the bloody manual. RTFM?

Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
Posted - 2008.03.26 11:10:00 - [18]
 

Let's see the killmail. Edit out the names.


Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2008.03.26 11:27:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Niccolado Starwalker on 26/03/2008 11:27:12
Originally by: Ioci
A Raven in .7 sec. No concord on the scene untill after the fact. You guys are pathetic CCP. Why don't you turn dev side over to open source hobbyists and admit you have no control over this game.




As in real life Police dont show up before AFTER the crime. So why should not CONCORD show up in same manner? As in after the crime is done?

The real difference though is that in EVE the Police always gets their criminal. If they dont, the player have cheated and wil get a warning/Ban. Police in real life I am sorry to say dont have the same statistics..


Lorna Loot
Caldari
NibbleTek
Posted - 2008.03.26 11:41:00 - [20]
 

OMG THE SKY IS FALLING I GOT KILLED AND IM CRYING ABOUT IT WAHHHHHHHH.... THE INTERWEB POLICE DIDNT SAVE MY INTERWEB PIXELS AND IM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST ME AND ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY... CCP DO SOMETHING AS YOU DONT CONTROL YOUR OWN GAME THAT YOU MADE AND CAN DO ANYTHING WITH AT ANY POINT. I'M GOING TO GO AND CANCEL MY HUNDRED ACCOUNTS AND STICK IT TO THE MAN!


facepalm johnson
Perkone
Posted - 2008.03.26 11:44:00 - [21]
 

Ioci, sticking a locator agent on your peachy arse as we speak.

Barzam
School of Applied Knowledge
Posted - 2008.03.26 11:45:00 - [22]
 

When will people realize these "OMGILOSTDIECCP"-threads are all troll threads?

They are most likely written by Goons to get attention to drive some goal they have of forcing CCP to change the game somehow.


Dro
Posted - 2008.03.26 12:09:00 - [23]
 

its part of the game... someone commits a crime (blowing up your ship), concord respond(blow up there ship) end of story.
What do you expect? concord to pull them over before hand on suspicion of future suicide ganking?
In most normal curcumstances the police dont arrest people for crimes untill after they happen so why would eve be any different?

Cailais
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2008.03.26 12:47:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Barzam
When will people realize these "OMGILOSTDIECCP"-threads are all troll threads?

They are most likely written by Goons to get attention to drive some goal they have of forcing CCP to change the game somehow.




Yup. That much was obvious days ago.

C.


Zantrei Kordisin
FinFleet
Posted - 2008.03.26 12:50:00 - [25]
 

I fail to see a problem.

The TX
Gallente
Pulsar Combat Supplies
Alternative Realities
Posted - 2008.03.26 12:51:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Riho
YOU ARE NOT SAFE ANYWHERE, EXCEPT IN A STATION !!!!!!!!


REALLY?
OMFGQUICKNERFIT!
MAKEPEOPLEINSTATIONSGANKABLENOWORI'LLCANCELMYELEVENTYTWELVEACCOUNTS!



Neila Mei
Posted - 2008.03.26 13:01:00 - [27]
 

There's obvious problems with suicide ganking when it comes to insurance payout. Doesn't make sense insurance company would pay for people losing their ships while doing something illegal.

Furthermore. Security status system is a joke. Only people being under -5 are people living in low sec or some hardcore pirates who want to be flashing red. In my opinion a guy engaging into illegal combat in high security system should be flashing red somewhat permanently pretty fast. They're obviously pirates shooting other ships...

Amarth Thargan
Posted - 2008.03.26 13:30:00 - [28]
 

The solution to this is simple.

a) use search to look up similar topics involving suicide ganking, instead of keep on creating you're own wee little thread. Those that visit this forum have allready read other or made their own complaint about it. There is nothing special about you so you can just as easily agree or disagree with the rest of us.

b) as no proper computer related company should ever trust in the willingness of user to comply. Make a script that automerges all these "suicide gank"-threads in one big mother thread.

I'm a big fat lazy carebear myself, but please i beg thee (like a good cb) don't create anymore threads like this. I'm at work, bored or either stressed and I need to be entertained here! This like watching reruns of a show with a good script but bad acting. I don't like this. I feel thread-ganked.

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:44:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Arthur Frayn
That was your first BS, wasn't it?

Oh, and welcome to Eve.


No wise azz, I fly Amarr. This was some guy running missions between systems. No!!! Say it aint so! Someone who actually pays attention to other people beyond the ones they are targeting!!


Originally by: Uzuness
This is why I don't leave station.. and only play for 15 minutes a day.


You are kidding right? It doesn make me wonder why in gods green earth anyone actually pays for this game though. Macro that puppy up and paying in ISk makes perfect sense now. Your just fodder for the sociopaths anyway.

The whole Concord mechanics was put in to declare certain areas of the game 'safe'. Then came T2 and it became Obselete. Make T2 Concord and T2 Sentry guns and chill on the R&D 'exclusive' illusion and people won't cluster **** the game. Do you want me to write the code for you too CCP?

Ioci
Gallente
Space Mermaids
Posted - 2008.03.26 19:46:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Lorna Loot

OMG THE SKY IS FALLING I GOT KILLED AND IM CRYING ABOUT IT WAHHHHHHHH.... THE INTERWEB POLICE DIDNT SAVE MY INTERWEB PIXELS AND IM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT BECAUSE THE WHOLE WORLD IS AGAINST ME AND ITS ALL A CONSPIRACY... CCP DO SOMETHING AS YOU DONT CONTROL YOUR OWN GAME THAT YOU MADE AND CAN DO ANYTHING WITH AT ANY POINT. I'M GOING TO GO AND CANCEL MY HUNDRED ACCOUNTS AND STICK IT TO THE MAN!




OMG u are so full of **** your eyes are brown.

OMG I didn't get killed. I watched someone else.

OMG, you assumed.
Welcome to Eve anti anything that doesn't start with Me Me Me


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