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Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.20 15:27:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Omber Zombie on 22/03/2008 16:23:52
Since so many people seem to want to post about this, I decided to make a post that combines all the random threads so that everyone has a 'one stop shop' when trying to follow it all. If you've made a post and want it linked here (in case I missed it), let me know and I'll add it in. I'll also add in a brief summary of the initial post/discussion topic. Mods, feel free to sticky this Very Happy

Council of Scapegoat Management by DigitalCommunist
CSM is pointless, we should get all the alliances to submit what they think is good

Council Of Stellar Management by Sopha Serpentia
What is it? Is it just a marketing ploy?

political council by gramb0
It's just publicity, how can one person represent all the different pirates?

Council is a stupid idea, here is a better one... by Asuka Smith
Poll people instead of electing a council

passport for council is silly? by Shananigan
Why do we need a passport to nominate?

Eve political parties, or lobby groups needed? by Uilliam Nebel
We should be voting for political parties rather than individuals

CSM Campaign Finance Laws by Herschel Yamamoto
Introduction of laws to limit how much people spend on influencing the vote

CSM, The Silent Majority Needs A Voice by Zaphroid Eulthran
looking for a High sec champion to back

The main issue for a CSM candidate? by Uilliam Nebel
Empire Vs. Lowsec


Screw the 'Council of steller Awesomeness'
by 000Hunter000
Eve is not a democracy, one person sould not have more power than another

The Goon Party, Surely impossible? (CSM) by Benilopax
goons can't stack the Council

Suggestions on Multiple Aspects of the CSM, Both for CCP and all of Us
by Crovan
Ideas and suggestions on how to make the CSM work a little better

CSM - More of the same or a chance for great change? by Nyabinghi
Breaking down issues into small/medium/large

A thought on CCP's document for the CSM. And reasons for the CSM. by Uilliam Nebel
The CSM is a good thing and a sensible next step for the EVE community, but before it can do much good the community is going to have to grow up a bit and appreciate each other more. (Tarminic summarised it for me)

The Council of Stellar Management - Candidate Infozone by Winterblink
Centralized thread of candidate information

Council of Yes Men. CCP bang a gong for lip service. by Le Skunk
CSM is pointless and they lied to the media

CCP, The Council Of Stellar Management, And You.
by Verone
Agreeing with Le Skunk, but giving CCP the benefit of doubt and asking some very valid questions

Avon
Caldari
Versatech Co.
Raiden.
Posted - 2008.03.20 15:33:00 - [2]
 

Nice one OZ.

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
Posted - 2008.03.20 15:34:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Vyktor Abyss on 20/03/2008 15:38:35

Posting in Omber Zombie's campaign thread. Nice one.

Edit: Campaign not canvassing...doh!

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.20 15:51:00 - [4]
 

not my campaign thread yet, website + media still being produced for that Very Happy

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.21 04:25:00 - [5]
 

updated with a few more

Mr M
Posted - 2008.03.21 04:57:00 - [6]
 

Commented for brilliancy

Uilliam Nebel
Amarr
13th Udorian Rangers
Posted - 2008.03.21 05:07:00 - [7]
 

Thanks for gathering all these together, makes it so much easier to follow. I'll imagine as the elections get closer, we may actually see the topic get it's own forum.

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.03.21 05:14:00 - [8]
 

Nice thread, Omber. Thanks for putting it together and updating it. Smile

Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
Posted - 2008.03.21 05:17:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Uilliam Nebel
I'll imagine as the elections get closer, we may actually see the topic get it's own forum.
Thats what I'm waiting for. It should be epic in ways that CAOD only dreams about in its wildest fantasys. YARRRR!!

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.21 07:26:00 - [10]
 

no problems guys

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:12:00 - [11]
 

This thread should really be stickied.

Gideon Kross
Caldari
Kross Industries Ltd
Posted - 2008.03.21 14:30:00 - [12]
 

I love how various people seem to be going off on tangents concearning how the CSM will be in the pocket of some big alliance or whatnot.

... It's as though they haven't actually sat down and read the PDF, which in all likelihood... They Haven't.

More's the pitty...


Treenara Mazouk
Phoenix Propulsion Labs
Firmus Ixion
Posted - 2008.03.21 15:11:00 - [13]
 

Great idea to put everything in one place OZ.

And as Gideon says, a lot of the FUD about the CSM is the result of lack of knowledge about it. Please, if you're going to rant, have an intelligent opinion and be prepared to back it up!

Sticky Please! Very Happy

Thorradin
State Protectorate
Posted - 2008.03.21 16:02:00 - [14]
 

Dang there's more threads than I thought.

I have no idea who to vote for either.Confused

Lurana Jade
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.03.21 16:16:00 - [15]
 

I was going to vote for someone else, till I saw Omber's hair-do.
That whole pet Detective look is hawt!

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.21 16:19:00 - [16]
 

\o/ Razz

Suboran
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2008.03.21 16:41:00 - [17]
 

TBH the stellar council thing reminds me of SOE focus groups and look what happened to swg lol

Talkuth Rel
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.03.21 17:54:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Talkuth Rel on 21/03/2008 17:54:08
Originally by: Suboran
TBH the stellar council thing reminds me of SOE focus groups and look what happened to swg lol


I'm not largely in favor of the CSM, but there is one thing that can be said for it over what happened with SWG.

No one knew anything about those "focus groups" before SOE released its decisions, and afterwards no one seemed able to find someone who had been a part of such a focus group. At least the CSM appears to be a real effort.

Treelox
Posted - 2008.03.21 20:19:00 - [19]
 

Bit of a crosspost, but since this is the "Amalgamated" thread thought I would include my concerns.


My post in the Dev thread

Originally by: Treelox
Is there a quorum requirement or minimum vote requirment to make this election even valid or for a canidate to "win" a spot?

I ask this because judging by current intrest it seems that so far the whole CSM concept is not getting very much "positive" response from the Forum masses. Since we know that those active on the forums is roughly 10% of the total eve population base, this could mean that this elected body would be representive of 5% or even less of the total player base. Not exactly a good representive sample at all.

If such apathy continues, I can see some of the "less popular" canidates winning their position with low triple digit votes, which out of +200,000 active accounts is really sad.

Maybe I am wrong, maybe not, but if intrest in this new standard of Dev and Player base interaction does turn out to be very low, what does CCP plan on doing with the player base that is disenfranchised by the whole process, ignore them?

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.22 05:16:00 - [20]
 

cheers tree, but it's more of a collation of GD threads - updated tho

Treelox
Posted - 2008.03.22 05:53:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Omber Zombie
cheers tree, but it's more of a collation of GD threads - updated tho


was a free bump, for ya. even if I feel that CCP is not going to gain what they had hoped from this idea.

Goumindong
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2008.03.22 06:43:00 - [22]
 

Will you be putting up information from the players who are running? I just want to get an idea of where exactly i'm going to have an output for my campaign materials.

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.22 16:25:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Goumindong
Will you be putting up information from the players who are running? I just want to get an idea of where exactly i'm going to have an output for my campaign materials.


You and me both, it would be helpful to have an area we could announce that we are running, until then I'll just link everything from the eve forums here and you can use Blinky's thread to put your outside of eve forum information.

oh, and updated.

Winterblink
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.22 16:34:00 - [24]
 

Zombo, give me your infos for my thread. :D

Andargor theWise
Collateral Damage Unlimited
Posted - 2008.03.22 16:42:00 - [25]
 

OMGZ is back! Smile

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.23 04:14:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Winterblink
Zombo, give me your infos for my thread. :D


done Very Happy

Letouk Mernel
Caldari
Posted - 2008.03.23 04:21:00 - [27]
 

Onward, to 23!!

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.03.23 06:37:00 - [28]
 

This thread is an irreplaceable resource for the CSM topic... well, until an actual forum is made. Good luck with your campaign, Omber. I'm glad to see the dedication, effort and interest.

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.23 16:43:00 - [29]
 

no probs man, it's just without an official forum heaps of threads are popping up, mostly with great information in them and this way it might be a little easier locating them all instead of trawling through the forums.

and remember, if you find a threa dnot linked here (or create one), post it here and i'll link it up

Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
Posted - 2008.03.24 05:26:00 - [30]
 

this isn't a bump, just a friendly reminder that all our lives would be simpler if this was stickied Very Happy


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