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Malachon Draco
Caldari
eXceeded
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:17:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: maralt
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Hmm, another interesting occurence with BoB and how the game functions. What a coincidence. I say, why not slashdot it and let the world decide Very Happy


Another weak accusation from the normal drama bomb merchants against BOB without realizing that RA actually did exactly this thing with the DT bug several times and were the first in eve to use itLaughing.


Another defence from the usual pathetic alts.

DigitalCommunist
Gallente
November Corporation
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:19:00 - [92]
 

Anhela, you are one tickly pubehair away from calling me a dev. I am merely speculating based on the most basic and common knowledge, to explain why some people get kicked before others. If people could log back after being kicked, that almost confirms it. You'd most likely reconnect through whichever proxy servers are still up. If I am correct, this is not new. Your own alliance obviously knew about it.

The fact though, is that some of you rely on the imprecise downtime mechanic to marginalize your capital losses consistently. This time you got burned, but it doesn't even make up for all the ships you would have lost if you had to create your own exit strategy like everyone else.

nync is supposed to be old and experienced enough to know the risks. If he made the decision to rely on the server to save his fleet - and it didn't - he should take responsibility for defeat then move on to the next battle. Implying foul play atop a high horse with gimp legs is so 2007.

Elfishy
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:20:00 - [93]
 

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KweKwe Babe
Minmatar
Republic Military School
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:20:00 - [94]
 

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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:22:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: maralt on 15/03/2008 12:24:57
Originally by: Ganthrithor
[URL=http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccp350offcopyig1.jpg][/url]Please visit your user settings to enable images.

Oh hey, look at that. I DID warp out in my cruiser. As you can see, here is my wreck, 350-360km off the fight where the titans DDed. Because I warped out, but got killed by the 250km DD anyway.

Heres some more candid camera snaps!

Me getting killed by invisible spaceships (after 1.75hrs of *not* loading grid, and taking only ~220 damage):

[URL=http://img329.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccpdownspo4.jpg][/url]Please visit your user settings to enable images.

Me getting killed by more invisible spaceships, without taking any damage:

[URL=http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ccpbp7.jpg][/url]Please visit your user settings to enable images.

:ccp:

The game rules, they do nothing!




So you are claiming that RA are exploiting and using devs to make the DDD hit over 250km?.

And you also seem to have proven that the game has lag and desynch... er ..gratz i think.

Malachon Draco
Caldari
eXceeded
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:23:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Anhela, you are one tickly pubehair away from calling me a dev. I am merely speculating based on the most basic and common knowledge, to explain why some people get kicked before others. If people could log back after being kicked, that almost confirms it. You'd most likely reconnect through whichever proxy servers are still up. If I am correct, this is not new. Your own alliance obviously knew about it.

The fact though, is that some of you rely on the imprecise downtime mechanic to marginalize your capital losses consistently. This time you got burned, but it doesn't even make up for all the ships you would have lost if you had to create your own exit strategy like everyone else.

nync is supposed to be old and experienced enough to know the risks. If he made the decision to rely on the server to save his fleet - and it didn't - he should take responsibility for defeat then move on to the next battle. Implying foul play atop a high horse with gimp legs is so 2007.


The usual defence from the usual suspects. You kept claiming there was no dev scandal right until he confessed either. Best to shine a bright light on this incident, just to make sure we're not in a similar situation again. Why are you so against that DC? Something to hide?

maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:23:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: maralt
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Hmm, another interesting occurence with BoB and how the game functions. What a coincidence. I say, why not slashdot it and let the world decide Very Happy


Another weak accusation from the normal drama bomb merchants against BOB without realizing that RA actually did exactly this thing with the DT bug several times and were the first in eve to use itLaughing.


Another defence from the usual pathetic alts.


While a post from a bitter ex-ascn victim of BOB is well worth reading.

Troubadour
Gallente
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:25:00 - [98]
 

that's what happens when you pull that "siege the pos 20 minutes before DT" crap too much, you eventually get caught offguard.

their own damn fault. they only warn you several times to "Make sure your ship is out of harms way!" during the last hour of DT

Rockvell
Caldari
Russian Specnaz
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:27:00 - [99]
 

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Nez Sewers
Amarr
Black Toilet.
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:27:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Anhela, you are one tickly pubehair away from calling me a dev. I am merely speculating based on the most basic and common knowledge, to explain why some people get kicked before others. If people could log back after being kicked, that almost confirms it. You'd most likely reconnect through whichever proxy servers are still up. If I am correct, this is not new. Your own alliance obviously knew about it.

The fact though, is that some of you rely on the imprecise downtime mechanic to marginalize your capital losses consistently. This time you got burned, but it doesn't even make up for all the ships you would have lost if you had to create your own exit strategy like everyone else.

nync is supposed to be old and experienced enough to know the risks. If he made the decision to rely on the server to save his fleet - and it didn't - he should take responsibility for defeat then move on to the next battle. Implying foul play atop a high horse with gimp legs is so 2007.


The usual defence from the usual suspects. You kept claiming there was no dev scandal right until he confessed either. Best to shine a bright light on this incident, just to make sure we're not in a similar situation again. Why are you so against that DC? Something to hide?


How's freighter?

Mr Mozzie
Caldari
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:28:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Sally
Petioned. Some as last lost Titan. See bug fixed in last patch. "Error in which a ship would be left in space even after it was destroyed has been corrected". Titan lost to admited bug.
Did they returned Titan back? No. Not for RA.


Did you explain that it was an RA titan? I mean if RA lost a cap, let alone a titan or a whole cap fight, it must have been an exploit. Didn't the GM's listen to reason?

Nez Sewers
Amarr
Black Toilet.
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:28:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Troubadour
that's what happens when you pull that "siege the pos 20 minutes before DT" crap too much, you eventually get caught offguard.

their own damn fault. they only warn you several times to "Make sure your ship is out of harms way!" during the last hour of DT


All nice & dandy, however you can triage pos in 30min or so

RogueWing
Caldari
Tools Of The Trade
Southern Connection
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:31:00 - [103]
 

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maralt
Minmatar
The seers of truth
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:33:00 - [104]
 

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DigitalCommunist
Gallente
November Corporation
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:33:00 - [105]
 

Why are you getting uppity with me Malachon Draco? Did you make a mistake and think I was an alt?

Your only way of evading strong arguments has gone out the window. I'll eat your forum babies and run circles around your enfeebled logic. gtfo newbie.

7sunami
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:35:00 - [106]
 

Anyone missing the big picture here? RA lost a bunch of caps before DT, yet blame BOB for cheating for the 1-2 kills after DT

I'l Duce
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:35:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Mr Mozzie
Originally by: Sally
Petioned. Some as last lost Titan. See bug fixed in last patch. "Error in which a ship would be left in space even after it was destroyed has been corrected". Titan lost to admited bug.
Did they returned Titan back? No. Not for RA.


Did you explain that it was an RA titan? I mean if RA lost a cap, let alone a titan or a whole cap fight, it must have been an exploit. Didn't the GM's listen to reason?


I think its when freaky things happens and BoB's on the field people draws the sploit conclusion. If they sploited once(I dont know the correct number of sploits thou) they prolly will sploit again.

Nez Sewers
Amarr
Black Toilet.
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:35:00 - [108]
 

BTW, did RA just lost as many caps as LV in that "big" fight ? Embarassed

Ganthrithor
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:35:00 - [109]
 

Edited by: Ganthrithor on 15/03/2008 12:36:54
Originally by: maralt
Edited by: maralt on 15/03/2008 12:24:57
Originally by: Ganthrithor
Oh hey, look at that. I DID warp out in my cruiser. As you can see, here is my wreck, 350-360km off the fight where the titans DDed. Because I warped out, but got killed by the 250km DD anyway.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4052/ccp350offcopyio3.jpg

Heres some more candid camera snaps!

Me getting killed by invisible spaceships (after 1.75hrs of *not* loading grid, and taking only ~220 damage):

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9347/ccpdownsba0.jpg

Me getting killed by more invisible spaceships, without taking any damage:

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/9845/ccpvm6.jpg

:ccp:

The game rules, they do nothing!





So you are claiming that RA are exploiting and using devs to make the DDD hit over 250km?.

And you also seem to have proven that the game has lag and desynch... er ..gratz i think.


You don't see anything wrong with this picture?

Even the *server* can't figure out where your ship is supposed to be. It cant be out of range and taking damage from something at the same time. Either have the wreck where I supposedly took the DD damage, or have my ship at the gridload, but not both!

Why is noone else troubled by this? Especially given that if asked for reimbursement, CCP will just say "Lawl, you participated in playing eve, why should we be responsible for making sure game mechanics actually work consistently? Also, "our server logs were unable to produce any irregular data indicating that something funny happened."

The pictures prove that something funny happened, now why don't the server logs indicate it? (if they're ever so much as glanced at, which I doubt)

I dunno. Plenty of other games out there that work. Like I said, if handling 300 people in a fight is too much, figure out a way to make it work properly, or figure out a way to avoid having to handle 300 clients, but don't just leave users blowing in the wind.

As it stands, small gang fights take coordination and skill, larger engagements are a dice roll.

Elmo McMo
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:37:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
nync:

proof or stfu.

Honestly what has RA turned themselves into in the last couple of years? I remember them as a proud, non-whining, non-bull****t, "we shoot to kill" type of alliance. Please go back to that so we can all pretend this never happend.




remember the last time when you cryed proof or stuf, iit got reveleated that you guys got tech2 bpo's from devs and that devs/gms are in youralli lol, proof this

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Minmatar
C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:37:00 - [111]
 

Thread locked.

Discussions of cheating or alleged cheating are neither constructive nor relevant to CAOD.

If you feel a ship has been unfairly lost then please file a petition and let the GM Team investigate.

Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente
Shadow Templars
Posted - 2008.03.15 12:38:00 - [112]
 

Honestly..

1. We all know its dangerous flying around ships in PvP the minutes/Seconds around Downtime.
2. CCP warns each and every single person an hour before DT
3.Shutdown procedures and human interaction > time stop watch
4. RAs known metagaming around DT.

Well, this time you got burned. Its still a risk you willingly took.

Suck it up and move on! You failed ingame this time! So what! But running to the forums about it, make you just look more stupid!


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