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Neko Axin
Gallente
Posted - 2008.03.21 13:33:00 - [211]
 

Originally by: Sporolichimisu
Reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling Eve didn't make one bit of a difference. I noticed that in the Oueletta system, my fps went back to 42-50 fps for some strange reason (just like pre-patch in EVERY system). Jump one system over to Jufvitte, it's back to under 10 fps. Makes no sense whatsoever.


How many planets and moons in each?

I see Oueletta has barely any but Jufvitte is really packed.

I have the exact same issue in Brundakur and Alf as extreme examples. I wrote a forum post about it but I can't find the thing anymore.

The more planets and moons in a system, the slower the game gets, that's my experience, and it's *directly proportional to the number of planets and moons*. It's just a shame systems with low numbers of planets and moons are so uncommon in the game...

Durao
Amarr
Not Quite So Sinister
Shadow Empire.
Posted - 2008.03.21 15:11:00 - [212]
 

Edited by: Durao on 21/03/2008 15:12:22
I submitted a second bug report with logs and dxdiag files. This time I flew from Penirgman in Amarr space (decent fps) to Ashab (really poor fps). Penirgman had 142 in local compared with Ashab's 101. The two systems are adjacent to each other.

Why is the one with less people also less fps than the other? I don't know. Also, even in decent fps systems, it is still lower than prior to the boost patch. I can't really report that with the bug report and logs, though. I just know based on my ability to play the game before and after the patch.

I hope we can get this solved. I love my Eve.

The logs are very important. If you submit a bug report about this, please do it with a log file attached.

Sporolichimisu
Posted - 2008.03.21 17:33:00 - [213]
 

Originally by: Neko Axin
Originally by: Sporolichimisu
Reformatting my hard drive and reinstalling Eve didn't make one bit of a difference. I noticed that in the Oueletta system, my fps went back to 42-50 fps for some strange reason (just like pre-patch in EVERY system). Jump one system over to Jufvitte, it's back to under 10 fps. Makes no sense whatsoever.


How many planets and moons in each?

I see Oueletta has barely any but Jufvitte is really packed.

I have the exact same issue in Brundakur and Alf as extreme examples. I wrote a forum post about it but I can't find the thing anymore.

The more planets and moons in a system, the slower the game gets, that's my experience, and it's *directly proportional to the number of planets and moons*. It's just a shame systems with low numbers of planets and moons are so uncommon in the game...


I'm noticing the same thing, now that you mention it. Maybe CCP will notice this and investigate the matter further.

Evolutius
Posted - 2008.03.21 18:20:00 - [214]
 

Yep, the more moons in a system, the more drastic of a fps drop. Systems with 2-3 moons, no fps issues.

Kobeyashi Morue
Posted - 2008.03.21 19:43:00 - [215]
 

For those of you using laptops with the NVidia GeForce Go 5200 graphics card 64mb, I stumbled onto a solution that boosted me from .5 fps to 9fps.
I went to the NVidia website to download the latest drivers. They have a bundle that is as current as of 2007. Unfortunately, after downloading and installing, it says it cannot find the necessary hardware.
What I did was I went through the device manager, selected my graphics card, and went to "Update Driver" Then I selected "install from a list...", I clicked on "don't search", then to "have disk" then specified the drive (c:/nvidia/win2k/169.21/english) hit "ok" then selected my model from the list that appears. Then followed the prompts and rebooted my system.
The change for me was incredible. The graphics are beautiful in station (50fps) and manageable in space (7-14 fps) There is an NVidia manager that lets you real techies tweak your system. Me, I just let my mouse hover over the various options and selected performance over quality everytime.
I hope this helps everyone. For CCP, just wire me a reasonable reward for helping you keep your paying customers. Very Happy

Arous Drephius
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.03.21 20:29:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Arous Drephius on 21/03/2008 21:28:20
Edited by: Arous Drephius on 21/03/2008 21:27:15
The number of moons in system seems to be true for me as well. Will try the driver thing posted above (I run a 5200FX), and will post results later.

Edit: Updating drivers has certainly increased my FPS, not to pre-patch levels, but better than before.

Miyamoto Uroki
Caldari
Sarum Industries
Posted - 2008.03.21 22:30:00 - [217]
 

Updating the driver didn't improve fps for me.

But you are right with the moons, imho. It really seems to be the indicator for laggy systems or perfectly running ones. In a system with like 3 moons I practically have no lag at all.

Liu Lijuan
Caldari
Carbon Based Construction
Posted - 2008.03.22 09:16:00 - [218]
 

Bump to keep this thread on top.

Been over a week now and still no improvement.

Quani
The Scope
Posted - 2008.03.22 11:27:00 - [219]
 

8 pages...
prob not a big deal though...

agent apple
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.22 13:34:00 - [220]
 

This really varies between systems, some systems such as Irjunen I get full FPS, jump out and then back to 10FPS.

Murath Kalth
Minmatar
Ripping Yarns Inc
Posted - 2008.03.22 14:10:00 - [221]
 

yea been flying round various systems seems right about the moon thing, ingunn 6fps, Sirekur 5.8 fps Ebolfer and Frerstorn 12 Fps but Eszur I get 30 fps....looks like Eszur gonna be my happy hunting ground :)


Ilongo
Posted - 2008.03.22 20:12:00 - [222]
 

Just to add my 2 cents to this thread.

Bought a laptop yesterday, was expecting to be at least play eve on the lowest settings. It has an integrated card, Intel Duo 2 @1.66Ghz. 2Gb of Ram.

So fair enough it has an integrated card, but I am able to run half life 2 @ 20-50fps depending on what is going on, which is fairly decent.

In Eve I get around 10-15fps, with the classic client, lowest settings. Its just not playable like this. I have another rig at home, can play the game fine, but there I have a dedicated graphics card. Forget the name but its a new Radeon card.... Game runs fine. Ram is only 1024mb though, with a AMD 2800+.

I removed Vista and installed XP, game runs as stated above. With vista it was running at around 5fps...... nightmare. Someone mentioned way back on page 1 or 2 that maybe people with powerful rigs have had a drop in performance, but just don't notice it as their rigs can still cope. With a lower spec machine though, it really hits the performance.


Sporolichimisu
Posted - 2008.03.23 03:00:00 - [223]
 

Bumping this thread.

Pedro Snachez
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
Posted - 2008.03.23 09:59:00 - [224]
 

I have posted in the Windows section about this, but thought I'd post here too to make it clear to CCP and anyone that reads this forum that there IS a problem. Before the patch I was able to run two premium clients simultaneously in windowed mode. Now, I can run one classic client fine, but the second I try and undock with the second, the FPS plummets to 1-2 FPS and the space turns white. Now I accept that there will be bugs with patches, but the thing that really bothers me is the complete silence from CCP. Sure, I'll file a bug report, but it would be nice to hear from ANYONE that you know that there's a problem and that you're working as hard as you can to fix it. That's all. Because right now all I've heard is silence and it's making me wonder if those of us that are having this problem are just too small a number for you to care about. I don't want to think that, but you're not giving me many options right now. I had my accounts set to go on year-long pay periods, but with this experience I'm switching them back to monthly as there's no point in paying for a broken game if I'm not 100% positive that anyone gives a damn about fixing it. That is all.

Atomusuku
Caldari
Einherjar Rising
Cry Havoc.
Posted - 2008.03.23 10:09:00 - [225]
 

Yea the moons thing seems to be on the money in Kamela a system with zero moons I can get up to 170fps.

Blue Disk
Posted - 2008.03.23 14:39:00 - [226]
 

I am having this same issue, but only on the Mac client. My mac used to get 70fps, but now I get 15-20fps. Same hardware, no other changes. I very rarely OS X, as I'm a Windows person. The Windows client however runs perfectly (over 100 fps) both before and after the patch.

Sma Zakalwe
Caldari
Posted - 2008.03.23 16:51:00 - [227]
 

*bump*

Come on CCP, tell us what's going on. Its getting on for two weeks now....

Hu Lacour
HeadQuarter
Posted - 2008.03.23 20:38:00 - [228]
 

Edited by: Hu Lacour on 23/03/2008 20:39:18
I can confirm this also, more moons at system, lower FPS I get, its really weird. Villore is horrible also..

Verx Interis
Amarr
SkyNet.
Posted - 2008.03.23 20:54:00 - [229]
 

I have something like this

My FPS will decide to randomly drop to 10 or so, and nothing changes it. After a while, it comes back up to 40.

I believe this is related to loading the 3d stuff. I remember when the engine was first released, it loaded things very slowly. It seems to have gotten faster, except that it gets stuck on one unimportant thing. The low FPS behavior is similar to that of loading.

Some object doesn't want to load properly, and the engine freezes up until it can load it, which in some cases it can't.

LeCaz
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.23 21:02:00 - [230]
 

I know this is a really stupid question but ...

What exactly are the test servers used for?

sg1jack
Caldari
The Omega Particle
Posted - 2008.03.23 22:02:00 - [231]
 

Just wanted to add my name to the list.I is a pain in the ass for pve, pre patch rarley got a lag problem and I am running eve on a 3 year old laptop. Now down to 3 fps in most systems maybe if I am lucky 4 fps please please please CCP help us out.

Sporolichimisu
Posted - 2008.03.23 23:45:00 - [232]
 

Originally by: LeCaz
I know this is a really stupid question but ...

What exactly are the test servers used for?


I think most people get on the test server to "test" new ship setups and to PvP.

Oh yeah, FIX THE FPS.

RHunterr
Posted - 2008.03.24 02:49:00 - [233]
 

I *finally* received a reply (other than the auto-reply emails) from a GM at CCP about the FPS drop issue.
But all it said was "This is a known problem that the developers are aware of."....Confused
No mention of any estimate on fixing it, of if they even are currently working on it tho.


Arous Drephius
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.03.24 12:38:00 - [234]
 

I seem to be getting fine FPS on SiSi (in FD-MLJ), can anyone else confirm, or is it just the low number of moons in that system?

Ayserin
Gallente
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.24 14:15:00 - [235]
 

The second I fleet up, my fps goes to hell. From my experiance, it has something to do with the fleet client.

Gatiep
Posted - 2008.03.24 14:53:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Arous Drephius
I seem to be getting fine FPS on SiSi (in FD-MLJ), can anyone else confirm, or is it just the low number of moons in that system?


I have just gone on test server and can confirm, in fact, that my fps is great on test server (totally playable), and tranquility remains unplayable. Whatever's going on in the test server needs to be transferred to tranquility. I suggest others try and see if it is better for them on test as well.

mark sharky
Gallente
University of Caille
Posted - 2008.03.24 16:05:00 - [237]
 

for two weeks now have been paying for a broken product. eve in it's current state is unplayable. i'm not going to let my credit card be charged agian if this isn't fixed.

Dionisius
Gallente
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2008.03.24 16:08:00 - [238]
 

One thing i am curious about with most folks having problems is knowing the your cpu models, your ram setups, and the hdd's size and speeds ( besides de graphics card ) :P

Apart from having the alt-tab issue i have had no problems loading the client.

Bean Counter
Posted - 2008.03.24 16:12:00 - [239]
 

CCP. Please give us an update on the FPS issue. You are not winning any awards for customer service here. it may be true the devs are too busy to reply, but you have a customer service department the exists for this very thing. Are they all AFK? The frustration of your customer base is growing daily.

Kali Ananda
Minmatar
Realm of Shadows
Posted - 2008.03.24 16:14:00 - [240]
 

I have been unable to really use my second account on my laptop since the patch. Pre-patch FPS around 30, now FPS is 6-10. Operating in 0.0 with gatecamps at that frame rate totally sucks, and is basically unplayable.

My laptop is running Classic Client, and I've tried turning off and minimizing everything I can do, with no change in frame rate.






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