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Rakivic
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:23:00 - [1]
 

I hade a wicked passive tank raven now with the “upgrades” it sucks I will have to harden EVERYTING now instead of em, thermal and a kinetic rig way to screw me over…….typical CCP just out to make my life harderEvil or Very Mad


-before changes
Shields
EM - 0%, Exp - 60%, Kin - 40%, Therm - 20%
Armor
EM - 60%, Exp - 10%, Kin - 25%, Therm - 45%
- After changes
Shields
EM - 0%, Exp - 50%, Kin - 40%, Therm - 20%
Armor
EM - 50%, Exp - 10%, Kin - 25%, Therm - 45


X99 Z990
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:25:00 - [2]
 

Does that mean you might have to rethink your setup? You know adapt / think outside of your limited preferences?

Thats awful. :[

Sereifex Daku
Firestorm Projects
Capital Storm
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:25:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Sereifex Daku on 11/03/2008 12:25:42
Oh boo fecking hoo. Now you're going to have to adapt. Yes, it's a crime that an mmorpg is forcing us to adapt. After all, we want everything to say the same forever, right?

*Sarcasm off*

I hear WoW is still an option for your kind. Bye bye now.

000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:27:00 - [4]
 

Yes, how terrible, mebbe u should quit the game out of protest?

Oh and if u do... U know what follows right? Wink

Riho
Gallente
Drop of Blood
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:29:00 - [5]
 

ouuuumaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiggwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddd


you have to adapt... teh horror

Rakivic
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:32:00 - [6]
 

oh wate do this apply to the CNR or just Raven?

The Herrick
Gallente
Autistic Sharks
Spreadsheets Online
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:41:00 - [7]
 

Can I have your Raven?

Rakivic
Estrale Frontiers
Posted - 2008.03.11 12:54:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: The Herrick
Can I have your Raven?


ummm let me think about that for a second......NORazz

Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
Posted - 2008.03.11 13:34:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Rakivic
oh wate do this apply to the CNR or just Raven?


As far as i know the changes in resist apply to all ships, so that would include the Raven Navy Issue aswell.

CCP Atropos

Posted - 2008.03.11 13:37:00 - [10]
 

All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.

DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2008.03.11 13:41:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.


Translation, OMNI tanks are now the only viable resist based tank.

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:08:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: DrAtomic
Originally by: CCP Atropos
All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.


Translation, OMNI tanks are now the only viable resist based tank.


But will be weaker. So setup your ship to fight blasters, and run from everything else. Or setup to kill laser ships, and die form everything else.
Fitted for specific situations is a good thing. Having a 1-fit-for-all is bad.

Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:15:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Rakivic
typical CCP just out to make my life harderEvil or Very Mad


Of course, CCP only makes changes designed to make the game harder for YOU to adapt to. It's nothing to do with any other process, no sort of balance consideration, no amount of whining from anyone else; no, CCP is out to get YOU.

I'd quit now while you have the chance.

Kerdrak
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:35:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Rakivic
I hade a wicked passive tank raven now with the “upgrades” it sucks I will have to harden EVERYTING now instead of em, thermal and a kinetic rig way to screw me over…….typical CCP just out to make my life harderEvil or Very Mad


-before changes
Shields
EM - 0%, Exp - 60%, Kin - 40%, Therm - 20%
Armor
EM - 60%, Exp - 10%, Kin - 25%, Therm - 45%
- After changes
Shields
EM - 0%, Exp - 50%, Kin - 40%, Therm - 20%
Armor
EM - 50%, Exp - 10%, Kin - 25%, Therm - 45




OH NOES! you will have to put moaaaar explosive hardeners in your raven to make missions!

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing

Thenoran
Caldari
Tranquility Industries
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:37:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.


Not that its likely to spam Explosive on Shields or EM on Armor Razz

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:42:00 - [16]
 

PvE Raven pilots have so very hard lives, don't they? Sad

Stakhanov
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2008.03.11 14:47:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
PvE Raven pilots have so very hard lives, don't they? Sad


Yes , that's bordering on persecution.

Alora Venoda
GalTech
Whiskey Creek Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.11 15:06:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.


does this include NPC rats?

Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.11 15:55:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Aprudena Gist on 11/03/2008 17:47:16
Originally by: Tarminic
PvE Raven pilots have so very hard lives, don't they? Sad


have you ever gone angel ratting? or done an angel 10/10 complex is hard enough as it without this change its super gay.

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2008.03.11 15:57:00 - [20]
 

Hmm, they nerfed passive resists modules too, right?

Still no mention of why on that one...

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.03.11 15:58:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Tarminic on 11/03/2008 16:04:36
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Tarminic
PvE Raven pilots have so very hard lives, don't they? Sad

have you ever gone angle ratting? or done an angle 10/10 complex is hard enough as it without this change its super gay.

You realize that you're allowed to rat in ships other than the Raven, correct?

Kuseka Adama
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
Posted - 2008.03.11 15:59:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Kuseka Adama on 11/03/2008 15:59:27
True Sansha EANM and Amaar navy EANM for sale eve mail me for details Very Happy (of course i will be going with post patch prices which will likely be 9 figures for both Razz ))

centurion zulu
Phantom Squad
Atlas.
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:04:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: CCP Atropos
All ships will have lower Explosive resistance on their shields and lower EM resistance on their armour.



What's the Point ? What is there to gain by wasting time with this nonsense.

What you need to do is fix your hardware problems. Can't even have a fleet battle without having a node crash, mega lag, or in general, making fights miserable and unplayable. You can no longer blame all this on Video Cards.


Bish Ounen
Gallente
Best Path Inc.
Cult of War
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:07:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Aprudena Gist
have you ever gone angle ratting? or done an angle 10/10 complex is hard enough as it without this change its super gay.


Angle ratting? Yeah, that is hard. I hear those Isosceles ships are really tough. And the Rhombus, it's got huge resists. Gotta really watch out for the Acute frigates too, they are incredibly fast!

RazzRazzRazz

Wet Ferret
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:12:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Bish Ounen
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
have you ever gone angle ratting? or done an angle 10/10 complex is hard enough as it without this change its super gay.


Angle ratting? Yeah, that is hard. I hear those Isosceles ships are really tough. And the Rhombus, it's got huge resists. Gotta really watch out for the Acute frigates too, they are incredibly fast!

RazzRazzRazz



Confused

(Okay, so I laughed a little.)

Haradgrim
Systematic Mercantilism
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:19:00 - [26]
 

I'm against anything that promotes omni-tanking as the sole method of effective tanking, as such; this change fails Evil or Very Mad

Tamirr U'tath
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:41:00 - [27]
 

Try spending three years trying to kill omni armor tanks with lasers then come back and whine, k?

Ashlee Darksky
Minmatar
Forum Insurgency
Posted - 2008.03.11 16:47:00 - [28]
 

I'm running a survey on this to find out what the general train of thought is at the moment. Please feel free to;

Take a look
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Aprudena Gist
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.11 17:44:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Aprudena Gist on 11/03/2008 17:46:42
Originally by: Tarminic
Edited by: Tarminic on 11/03/2008 16:04:36
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Tarminic
PvE Raven pilots have so very hard lives, don't they? Sad

have you ever gone angel ratting? or done an angel 10/10 complex is hard enough as it without this change its super gay.

You realize that you're allowed to rat in ships other than the Raven, correct?


You do realize this applies to all ships as angel's are the only one that do all types of damage? Tanking these Rats already requires a 5 slot tank what do they want a 6 slot?

I guess that means we have to move to huge mother armor brick abbadons for plexes and more guardians.

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2008.03.11 17:47:00 - [30]
 

Tanking angles requires 5 slots IF you have rank 1 skills and tech I equipment.


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