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CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.03.09 11:55:00 - [151]
 

Patch Notes have been taken down, they will be reviewed, corrected and then added again as soon as possible.

CCP Explorer

Posted - 2008.03.09 11:59:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: Sybrina
Any chance this downtime could be expressed in EDT (USA--remember it is daylight savings time again)? Thanks much.
We always quote time in GMT. Personally, I use this web site to convert.
Originally by: Katana Seiko
Please, please, PLEASE either remove the welcome pages or add a checkbox to the settings to disable them...
There is a setting to disable them...
Originally by: Vivian Mengloi
The boot.ini file in the client root directory has been renamed to start.ini
Yes, we're deleting boot.ini, this time on purpose. Twisted Evil
Originally by: Epitrope
Can we get an updated database export, too? Pretty please?
We're hoping to be able to do a database export soon.
Originally by: Kuseka Adama
Oh and the star has vanished...
Originally by: Cori4n
The star! The star! The star is gone!
What star? Wink

Fastercart
Gallente
Ornery Cantankerous Curmudgeons
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:02:00 - [153]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Vivian Mengloi
The boot.ini file in the client root directory has been renamed to start.ini
Yes, we're deleting boot.ini, this time on purpose. Twisted Evil
Oh noes!

Kryttos
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:03:00 - [154]
 

Edited by: Kryttos on 09/03/2008 12:02:54
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Sybrina
Any chance this downtime could be expressed in EDT (USA--remember it is daylight savings time again)? Thanks much.
We always quote time in GMT. Personally, I use this web site to convert.
Originally by: Katana Seiko
Please, please, PLEASE either remove the welcome pages or add a checkbox to the settings to disable them...
There is a setting to disable them...
Originally by: Vivian Mengloi
The boot.ini file in the client root directory has been renamed to start.ini
Yes, we're deleting boot.ini, this time on purpose. Twisted Evil
Originally by: Epitrope
Can we get an updated database export, too? Pretty please?
We're hoping to be able to do a database export soon.
Originally by: Kuseka Adama
Oh and the star has vanished...
Originally by: Cori4n
The star! The star! The star is gone!
What star? Wink

Explorer you remind me of the US govt. =P

s73v3n2k
Caldari
UK Corp
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:07:00 - [155]
 

Seemed to have missed the fuel bonuses change on the jump freighters been changed from 5% redution to 10% reduction per jump freighter skill level on the patch notes.




Nub21
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:13:00 - [156]
 

Right....you do understand how much FAIL this made you look?

I don't disagree on the changes to the Caldari ships, but: That it took you OVER a YEAR? Jezuz. Is this what is to be expected when you break one of your concept or don't make it feasible enough to actually use? Not to mention that when i started to play this game there were NONE named Shield Transporters. Which are pretty much required for one in order to make a feasible setup. Due to the absurd CPU use of the ST,s.

Just to clarify for those that don't understand/know the concept: Several Caldari ships have this layout, x number of turret/launcher hardpoints and then 2 free. It's so due to the clear mid slot tackling deficiency. Now, it doesn't make much sense to fill those two slots up with 2 Shield Transporters on those ships due to the cap use of 2 Large ones or the CPU/PG use of two Med compared to a single Large, which reps the same amount over time, but ofc you can't distribute like 2. Not to mention the laughable dmg it makes compared to a ass raping Brutix/Thorax.

Hopefully you go thru ur **** so i or any other don't have to come here and rant about it and make you look bad.

I also like to tell my concern about the Curse and TD,s in general. It's effective operation up close got fked since the introduction of scrips. I can only guess you did so in order to further reduce lag and not because of it was overpowered. As now, if you try and use the "Can't hit for ****, because his/my tracking is fked" principle with TD,s loaded with Tracking Speed impairing scripts(ooohhh), you'll probably most likely get toasted once the target activates his mwd by cap injecting. Where once upon EVE:O life it wouldn't toast you as bad, as he got beyond his guns optimal range. Try it out.

I hope you look more into it and make the right adjustments/changes etc. Yet i doubt it due and since the Steam proclamation.

Mag
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:18:00 - [157]
 

So the resists nerf is actually going live????

Most ill conceived boost nerf, you've ever come up with tbh. Neutral

adriaans
Amarr
Ankaa.
Nair Al-Zaurak
Posted - 2008.03.09 12:24:00 - [158]
 

I really like all the fixes and improvementsVery Happy, BUT, the ships you are supposedly 'boosting' (not counting JF's) won't really be boosted at all if THEY CAN'T BE FITTED in any reasonable way even with advanced weapon upgrades lvl 5! And i seriously hope this is not 'all' amarr is getting, right?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2008.03.09 13:08:00 - [159]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Patch Notes have been taken down, they will be reviewed, corrected and then added again as soon as possible.


While you're at it, can you look at the part where it said something about NPC faction police NOT being affected by the Diplomacy skill ?
It makes little sense, since I'm pretty sure that they do.
If they don't... then what the hell IS the condition to be "shot at" by faction police ?
I mean, the base standings, since, apparently, effective standings don't matter.

Daveydweeb
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.03.09 13:13:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Patch Notes have been taken down, they will be reviewed, corrected and then added again as soon as possible.


Saw this coming a mile away.

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.03.09 13:18:00 - [161]
 

Edited by: Natalia Kovac on 09/03/2008 13:19:15
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Sybrina
Any chance this downtime could be expressed in EDT (USA--remember it is daylight savings time again)? Thanks much.
We always quote time in GMT. Personally, I use this web site to convert.
Originally by: Katana Seiko
Please, please, PLEASE either remove the welcome pages or add a checkbox to the settings to disable them...
There is a setting to disable them...
Originally by: Vivian Mengloi
The boot.ini file in the client root directory has been renamed to start.ini
Yes, we're deleting boot.ini, this time on purpose. Twisted Evil

Originally by: Epitrope
Can we get an updated database export, too? Pretty please?
We're hoping to be able to do a database export soon.

Originally by: Natalia Kovac
So can someone please explain the logic behind Tracking Disruptors now affecting two stats at the same time (falloff and optimal)? Isn't this counter to the very point of scripts, that a module would only be able to affect one stat effectively?

Also where are the counters, the +falloff scripts for Tracking Computers and the +falloff stat for Tracking Enhancers? Falloff rigs don't cut it.
Seriously, this could be a pretty hardcore nerf to a lot of Autocannon boats if it goes through as is.


Answer my question.

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.03.09 14:24:00 - [162]
 

Ok, what has happened is that we've taken down the patch notes. We will go over every single note, make sure it is coming in Trinity 1.1 and then we'll put it all back up again. Unfortunately that means we might not be able to get the list up until tomorrow, Monday.

Garat Mant
Moons of Pluto
Space Exploration and Logistic Services
Posted - 2008.03.09 14:38:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Ok, what has happened is that we've taken down the patch notes. We will go over every single note, make sure it is coming in Trinity 1.1 and then we'll put it all back up again. Unfortunately that means we might not be able to get the list up until tomorrow, Monday.


Once, when I was working back in the UK, a disgruntled software dev checked in a script that intentionally misspelled a lot of the dialogue boxes and other text in the application. The patch notes:

"Revenge Will Be Mine!!"

I'm sure you guys didn't need this extra work so close to release. Extra beer rations for these men (after Tuesday!)

Rodent
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.09 14:48:00 - [164]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Ok, what has happened is that we've taken down the patch notes. We will go over every single note, make sure it is coming in Trinity 1.1 and then we'll put it all back up again. Unfortunately that means we might not be able to get the list up until tomorrow, Monday.


Can we please get spesifics on the ECM Burst change before that? It has the potential of costing a lot of people a lot of money.

Kynes Harkonnen
OHiTech
Posted - 2008.03.09 15:03:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Ok, what has happened is that we've taken down the patch notes. We will go over every single note, make sure it is coming in Trinity 1.1 and then we'll put it all back up again. Unfortunately that means we might not be able to get the list up until tomorrow, Monday.


Cool, that doesn't sound fun... Appreciate the effort tho. Maybe next time you guys will proof read the patch notes -before- they go online? WinkSmile

Also, are you gonna double check that everything you've changed is actually in the notes as well? (not just double checking that everything in the patchnotes is stuff that has changed)

Isklover
Posted - 2008.03.09 15:09:00 - [166]
 

Well i personaly love the new Apoc. And i love the fact i crossed train amarr. The point is, to all those whiners out there, that cap stability is the amarr drawback. If lazers ever become cap stable i want 1s reload time and no reload to my hybrids as well!
There is a significant uproar for races to stay deferent and not get everything being the same at the end of a nerf spree. So for the love of god understand that each f race has its pros and cons and stop writing BS. Thanks :)

On the patch now. After the patch day the countdown to our anchored containers will immidiately begin at 30days?

Cpt Branko
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2008.03.09 16:33:00 - [167]
 

Question:
I read in patch notes that female avatars get female corpses when podded.

Will this be applied retroactively? Meaning, will the ton of corpses in my hangar get correctly converted?
Laughing

No21
Posted - 2008.03.09 18:25:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Rodent
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Ok, what has happened is that we've taken down the patch notes. We will go over every single note, make sure it is coming in Trinity 1.1 and then we'll put it all back up again. Unfortunately that means we might not be able to get the list up until tomorrow, Monday.


Can we please get spesifics on the ECM Burst change before that? It has the potential of costing a lot of people a lot of money.


What ECM Burst change?

Rodent
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.09 18:31:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: No21
What ECM Burst change?


'Manufacturing statistics of the Remote ECM Burst I BPO have been changed to reflect those of similar capital class BPO’s '

CCP Chronotis

Posted - 2008.03.09 19:07:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: Rodent

Can we please get specifics on the ECM Burst change before that? It has the potential of costing a lot of people a lot of money.


The blueprint job times were too low being equivalent to normal modules and have been changed to capital class module production and research job times.

Rodent
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.09 19:22:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: CCP Chronotis
Originally by: Rodent

Can we please get specifics on the ECM Burst change before that? It has the potential of costing a lot of people a lot of money.


The blueprint job times were too low being equivalent to normal modules and have been changed to capital class module production and research job times.


Are currently installed jobs affected by this change?

No21
Posted - 2008.03.09 19:24:00 - [172]
 

Ah Remote, almost thought that i missed something of greater importance for me. While on the subject, do you or any know if the Info Warfare Links affect it?

Zex Maxwell
Caldari
Posted - 2008.03.09 19:40:00 - [173]
 

Can I get a free GTC if you brake something again?

xttz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.03.09 19:41:00 - [174]
 

Quote:
The Rorqual Blueprint ME and Copy research times have been halved

Is it possible for existing research jobs to be amended for this? For example, a ME research job that originally took 80 days and is currently 50% done. Is there any way to make this finish at the new, earlier time?

Refazed
Interstellar eXodus
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2008.03.09 21:06:00 - [175]
 

Just curious, Is the resist nerf going to affect drones as well?




ChalSto
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2008.03.09 23:20:00 - [176]
 

Edited by: ChalSto on 09/03/2008 23:20:40
Quote:
Originally by: Vivian Mengloi
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The boot.ini file in the client root directory has been renamed to start.ini
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes, we're deleting boot.ini, this time on purpose.


You know.....reading THAT as a Microsoft Dev, makes me feel somekind
of stange.... Shocked

Sylthi
Minmatar
Coreward Pan-Galactic
Holy Empire of The Unshaven
Posted - 2008.03.09 23:23:00 - [177]
 

Edited by: Sylthi on 10/03/2008 03:49:01
"Reviewing" what is coming in with the patch huh? Great news Wrangler! While you are at it, go ahead and drop all the nerfs that were voted against by the player base to begin with, especially the resist nerfs that were supposed to come in with 1.1. Better yet, drop the resist nerfs all together because "nerfing" something as an effort to "boost" something else is just moronically stupid, tbh.

I look forward to seeing the good news when the notes come back up.

Cheers.


Kayleigh Lothian
Minmatar
Obsidian Inc.
Posted - 2008.03.09 23:59:00 - [178]
 

Edited by: Kayleigh Lothian on 09/03/2008 23:59:41
Hmmm, almost all modules have a counter module.
A MWD is countered by a web.
If someone sensor damp locking range you can use a sensor booster. Tracking computers - tracking disruptors. WCS - moar points...

But now you bring out a script to screw with fall-off and the thing to counter this new script is what, the rig? (Then the powergrid also should get a script that screws the power grid on a ship, which would be a pretty funny module when stuff randomly goes off-line)

I hope this means that there will be a script to the tracking computer that effects fall-off now, not just tracking or optimal range. So far I have failed to see this script mentioned, if it has been, please point me to the place.

*goes away grumbling about boost meaning all races but Minmatar* ;)

Decaying Youth
IP II IMI IP my pod
Posted - 2008.03.10 00:31:00 - [179]
 

For all those who winge about the time this patch is happening.. go suck on a lemon.. try being in Australia.. we get the dodgy DT of 9/10pm EVERYDAY! talk about prime time pain in the ass..

as for the patch notes, surely to god we can see them with 12 hours to spare? what are CCP running? a chook raffle?

i wonder sometimes how hard it is to run this 2 bit operation they have.. these guys stuff us around while 250,000 players pay 15 bucks a month for this game.. can anyone say "easy street"?

If people play the game 23 hours, their teams should work the same

Saromaru
Posted - 2008.03.10 01:26:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Decaying Youth
For all those who winge about the time this patch is happening.. go suck on a lemon.. try being in Australia.. we get the dodgy DT of 9/10pm EVERYDAY! talk about prime time pain in the ass..

as for the patch notes, surely to god we can see them with 12 hours to spare? what are CCP running? a chook raffle?

i wonder sometimes how hard it is to run this 2 bit operation they have.. these guys stuff us around while 250,000 players pay 15 bucks a month for this game.. can anyone say "easy street"?

If people play the game 23 hours, their teams should work the same



wow dude way to be an a$$ if u play 23 hours a day you need a life Rolling Eyes this game is one of the best most innovative ones out there and youre complaining about not seeing patch notes? y dont you play the game have fun and quit *****ing at the guys who work so hard to keep our method of entertainment up and running Razz i personally deal with the limitations of the ships i have and dont whine and complain when something doesnt go my way i just suck it up and learn how to over come them anyway great job ccp im entertained and satisfied do what u need to do to make the game great and dont cater to poons who want their ships to be uber need to realize its a game and need to play it for fun Laughing like for instance warp scrams vs stabs XD


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