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Martika Ray
Caldari
Jaegerkorpset
Posted - 2008.03.03 04:53:00 - [31]
 

Pezzle... you blinky, you get shot at.

Darth Kenzie
Amarr
Killer Koalas
Kingdom of Butan
Posted - 2008.03.03 05:10:00 - [32]
 

I don't speak for my Alliance, but there have been some recent skirmishes between pure and bob in Delve. (some towers shot up and what not irc)

Although we are prehaps not as invovled as we where previously I think BOB would be correct in listing us as an active participent in the Coalition.

Siddy
Minmatar
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 05:38:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: kublai
Art of War morally supports BoB \o/

We also try to kill as many coalition as we can, but as we're low sec newbies we'd never dare venture into delve, heavens!

That said we don't have any standings so I guess we don't count *wanders back to his asteroid belt*


you do that only cause you want into my pants :/

keelem
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 06:09:00 - [34]
 

Edited by: keelem on 03/03/2008 06:10:17
Many of those coalition alliances are innacurate. For example, I don't see how you can include exceed as they were actively camping the pipe during our nol invasion and killing our reinforcements.

7sunami
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 06:17:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:00:19
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 06:23:03

Originally by: keelem
Edited by: keelem on 03/03/2008 06:10:17
Many of those coalition alliances are innacurate. For example, I don't see how you can include exceed as they were actively camping the pipe during our nol invasion and killing our reinforcements.


Exceed made a standing reset recently so they will be removed. Exceed was included because they were blue to Coalition about a month ago

7sunami
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 07:01:00 - [36]
 

Edited by: 7sunami on 04/03/2008 00:59:41
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 09:09:40
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:57:25

Work in Progress. Should be up to date now

* Format: Year-Month-Day

08-03-03

The Coalition Vs The Alliance
===============

Active (19 Alliances)
---
Goonswarm 5719
Pure 2125
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate 1832
Morsus Mihi 1655
Imperial Republic of the North 1655
Red Alliance 1614
Ultima Rati0 1529
Tau Ceti Federation 1410
Ka-Tet 1309
Mostly Harmless 1195
Razor Alliance 1114
Rule of Three 958
Black-Out 773
Mercenary Coalition 697
Pandemic Legion 412
KIA Alliance 361
Daisho Syndicate 332
KIN-DZA-DZA 87
--- ---
total 24777


Sometimes (19 Alliances)
---
Brutally Clever Empire 2933
Roadkill 1911
Smash Alliance 1829
Intrepid Crossing 1452
Hydra Alliance 1415
Against All Authorities 1266
United Legion 1170
Black Star Alliance 995
Fang Alliance 798
Venom Alliance 775
Brother of Steel 589
Kraftwerk 361
Son of Tangra 333
Legion of xxDeathXX 328
Soul of Fountain 296
Vae Victus 295
Ministry of Amerrian Secret Service 278
Thorn Alliance 251
VooDoo Technologies 227
--- ---
total 17502


Remove from the Coalition
---
Curatores Veritatis Alliance 669
Dark Matter Coalition 497
Exceed 408
Coven 383
Evoke 350
Outbreak (corp) 160
Knights of Southerncross DEAD
--- ---
total 2467

Armadaus Baldwin
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.03.03 07:08:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: 7sunami
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:02:05
Work in Progress. Should be up to date now

* Format: Year-Month-Day

08-03-03

Active (20 Alliances)
---
Goonswarm 5719
Pure 2125


Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate 1832
Morsus Mihi 1655
Imperial Republic of the North 1655
Red Alliance 1614
Ultima Rati0 1529
Tau Ceti Federation 1410
Ka-Tet 1309
Mostly Harmless 1195
Razor Alliance 1114
Ka-Tet 1070
Rule of Three 958
Black-Out 773
Mercenary Coalition 697
Pandemic Legion 412
Coven 383
KIA Alliance 361
Daisho Syndicate 332
KIN-DZA-DZA 87
--- ---
total 26230


Sometimes (19 Alliances)
---
Brutally Clever Empire 2933
Roadkill 1911
Smash Alliance 1829
Intrepid Crossing 1452
Hydra Alliance 1415
Against All Authorities 1266
United Legion 1170
Black Star Alliance 995
Fang Alliance 798
Venom Alliance 775
Brother of Steel 589
Kraftwerk 361
Son of Tangra 333
Legion of xxDeathXX 328
Soul of Fountain 296
Vae Victus 295
Ministry of Amerrian Secret Service 278
Thorn Alliance 251
VooDoo Technologies 227
--- ---
total 17502


Remove from the Coalition
---
Curatores Veritatis Alliance 669
Dark Matter Coalition 497
Exceed 408
Evoke 350
Outbreak (corp) 160
Knights of Southerncross DEAD
--- ---
total 2084


Mostly correct. Brotherhood of Steel misses fighting the Alliance, but we prefer not to be shot at/ganked by former blue's on fleet ops. So we help when we can now.

Bonefish O'Hallahan
Gallente
Infinity Guitars
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:05:00 - [38]
 

Woops



Originally by: NI'shka Delmante
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I find incredible about the whole southern war is that people have such short memories, many are making out that Goons, RA et al are all winning due to huge numbers etc. Let's not forget how this all started:

In the RED corner.
BoB & Allies Standing List


BOB
Black Eclipse [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Destructive Influence [DICE]
Evolution [EVOL]
Reikoku [RKK]
Relentless Construction [RKK.C]
TAOSP [TAOSP]
Tin Foil [HAT..]

Corps
Arcane technologies [ATUK]
Constructive Influence [COIN]
Exile Strike Team [EXILE]
Goddess of EvE [KRYZ]
Gobshyte Inc. [-GSI-]
Lions Emporium [POOT]
Morne Attitude
Space Monkeys
True Salvations - (ShakaZ XIV)
Vronsky Bros and Sons


Delve
Omerta Syndicate - (Yuki Li)
Exuro Mortis - (Righteous Fury)


Esoteria
Digital Fury Corp (PRIMARY: Commander Solo, or Tonelock, SECONDARY: Gillard)
Executive Outcomes - (Cosmo Raata / Andar Kreone)
Miners with Attitude - (Jake Noble)
Pyrrhus Sicarii [OHSHT] - (Prefect Six)

Fethyabolis
Boob Heads [BOOB.] - (kenbadger)
Git-R-Dun - (Col Mammoth)
Gods of Night and Day - (Meriones)
Nova Lusitania [NoLu] - (Luso)
QUANT corp. (QTC) -
[DICE] Twister quit
QUANT corp. (QTC) - (Pwett)
Red Moon Federation - (James Britanicus, Omatje)
R I S E - (Eternal Fury, Rhohan, LoKesh, or Baymm)
The Neo Syndicate - (Nival) (Caelestis Hawkeye)

Fountain
Aftermath Alliance
Corelum Syndicate (Joshua Foiritain)
M'8's (Yitro)
OEC [o3c] - (Karash Amerius)
Shadow of Darkness
Xelas Alliance (Blue Flame)
Axiom Empire
YouWhat

Paragon Soul
Dark Rising - (Mitch Taylor)
Gentlemen O'Fortune [GEOF] - (Si Brows)
Quasar Inc [.QSR.] - (Torpedo CSR)
Southern Cross Alliance - (Sharmina)

Period Basis
Dark and Light Inc - (Nemon V3)
GRUNTFUTTOCKS
Mercenary Coalition [BDCI, CONIN, FRICK, ETNY]
Reddish Bears [RBS] - (WitchGhost)
Southern Tactical Fighter Unit - (Mazira)

Querious
British Space Corporation - (Krilos Nereth)
Dawn of Empire (DAOE)
Enfuria - (Conor Steel)
Firmus Ixion (Avernus)
Flashtrooper Corp - (Ft_eastwood)
Folsom Technologies - (xtcy)
FLASHTROOPER CORP [FTFL] - FT_Eastwood
Four Horsemen [LIH]
Freelancing Corp [PAUL]
Gunboat Diplomacy - (spuffofdog) (Nocturne Mra'tharden) (Avril Dewar)
High Guardians of Gallente - (Ze'dex)
Phoenix Knights - (franny)
Satans Delivery Boys [SADB] - (F1Hydro)
Star Blood Industry - (Abygaelle)
Requiem-Aeternam - (Gaaskel and Axeon)
The Two Thrones - (Anhela)

Scalding Pass
Interdiction

Pure Blind and the surrounding Regions
YouWhat
Axiom Empire
Xelas Alliance

Unknown Locations
Lotka Volterra rumored to be moving to Stain
Digital Renegades
Fallen Souls
Minmatar *** Rights League
Fatal Alliance
Southern Connection
Distant Star Alliance
Chorus of Dawn

Surrendered
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate: Surrendered to KOS

My point here is this, they had all the oportunities that we did, they maybe mismanaged their allies slighly and the list grew short.

Malachon Draco
Caldari
eXceeded
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:11:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: 7sunami
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 07:00:19
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 06:23:03

Originally by: keelem
Edited by: keelem on 03/03/2008 06:10:17
Many of those coalition alliances are innacurate. For example, I don't see how you can include exceed as they were actively camping the pipe during our nol invasion and killing our reinforcements.


Exceed made a standing reset recently so they will be removed. Exceed was included because they were blue to Coalition about a month ago


Yep, Exceed reset standings. I personally still prefer shooting Bobbits over Coalition though. But we will shoot everyone.

7sunami
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:23:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 08:43:30
Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 08:27:36
Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan
Woops

My point here is this, they had all the oportunities that we did, they maybe mismanaged their allies slighly and the list grew short.


07-03-04
Coalition - 26,413 pilots
BoB/LV side - 12,155 pilots

That argument has some flaws though. Even at BOB's peak, they never outnumbered The Coalition. You may list allies BOB used to have, but they're mostly small alliances, not involved in the war. If you think its appropiate to list every single alliance that BOB is blue to, then that can be applied to the Coalition as well.

I don't think you want to go down that road, because if I start listing all the alliances that Coalition are blue to, but not involved in the war, the numbers will be alot higher

Yogos
Gallente
Xenobytes
Stain Empire
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:46:00 - [41]
 

Inserting c0ven into coalition is little to much I think.
Fact it that MC give us invitation on one party in QY6 we fight there but party is over and we are back in Stain.

Atm we have no interest in attacking BoB.




7sunami
Amarr
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:47:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: 7sunami on 03/03/2008 09:07:36
Originally by: Yogos
Inserting c0ven into coalition is little to much I think.
Fact it that MC give us invitation on one party in QY6 we fight there but party is over and we are back in Stain.

Atm we have no interest in attacking BoB.




Okay, thanks for clearing that up. Coven removed

bitters much
Gallente
Nekkid Inc.
Posted - 2008.03.03 08:49:00 - [43]
 

I would announce that Nekkid Inc. also supports of both sides in this war with hookers and beer.

Also with useless posts on CAOD

Orangir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:17:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: 7sunami
I don't think you want to go down that road, because if I start listing all the alliances that Coalition are blue to, but not involved in the war, the numbers will be alot higher


You've already listed pretty much every alliance we're blue to. Roadkill? Smash? CVA? The only time I ever seem them is when I'm making an empire run.

Ranger802004
Caldari
Federation of Freedom Fighters
Aggression.
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:20:00 - [45]
 

It's useless to argue about who's part of who, it's a matter of who's winning and participating...

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:22:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:21:56
You can put up list after list or map after map but the fact is that the coalition has always outnumbered BOB and their pets at least 2 or 3-1 and normally a lot higher.

Orangir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:28:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:21:56
You can put up list after list or map after map but the fact is that the coalition has always outnumbered BOB and their pets at least 2 or 3-1 and normally a lot higher.


Gotta agree with marakor on this one. Keep your stupid facts and data out of here, we need to go from the heart on this, and my heart tells me BoB has been boldly holding off the ravenous coalition with a mere 5 members. I'd place the coalition at somewhere around 500,000 individual members on the conservative side, possibly close to a million on the extreme side.

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:33:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:35:16

Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: marakor

You can put up list after list or map after map but the fact is that the coalition has always outnumbered BOB and their pets at least 2 or 3-1 and normally a lot higher.


Gotta agree with marakor on this one. Keep your stupid facts and data out of here, we need to go from the heart on this, and my heart tells me BoB has been boldly holding off the ravenous coalition with a mere 5 members. I'd place the coalition at somewhere around 500,000 individual members on the conservative side, possibly close to a million on the extreme side.


Oh dear orangir-tang has dropped his dolly again and gone off the deep end.

It realy bites you so much that BOB/TRI and others have the respect you claim over and over not to care about or want does'nt it.

Orangir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:44:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: marakor
Oh dear orangir-tang has dropped his dolly again and gone off the deep end.

It realy bites you so much that BOB/TRI and others have the respect you claim over and over not to care about or want does'nt it.


What? I was agreeing with you. Sad

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:51:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:52:00
Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: marakor
Oh dear orangir-tang has dropped his dolly again and gone off the deep end.

It realy bites you so much that BOB/TRI and others have the respect you claim over and over not to care about or want does'nt it.


What? I was attempting a exaggerated form of drama bomb in a low brow attempt to deflect the truth. Sad


fxt.

Baxalusx
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
Posted - 2008.03.03 09:55:00 - [51]
 

Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?

Orangir
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.03.03 10:05:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 09:52:00
Originally by: Orangir
What? I was attempting a exaggerated form of drama bomb in a low brow attempt to deflect the truth. Sad


fxt.



Are you accusing me of trolling?

That's not a very honourable thing to be doing. Neutral

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 10:20:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 10:35:31

Originally by: Baxalusx
Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?


Keep dreaming budLaughing it was the ass kickings that BOB dished out and the fear the larger alliances in eve had of losing their space to them that created the coalition not you or your claimed diplomacy skills. Unless you can give another reason why so many have gone home now BOB is no longer a threat to their systems, perhaps you can use your uber diplo skill to get them back to delve.

Oh let me guess you "do not want/need them in delve anyway" so there is no need for you to whip out your "big gun" diplomatic skillsRolling Eyes.

kublai
Caldari
Guillotine Therapy
Rooks and Kings
Posted - 2008.03.03 10:23:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Siddy
Originally by: kublai
Art of War morally supports BoB \o/

We also try to kill as many coalition as we can, but as we're low sec newbies we'd never dare venture into delve, heavens!

That said we don't have any standings so I guess we don't count *wanders back to his asteroid belt*


you do that only cause you want into my pants :/


I'm hairy Cool so let's go

Baxalusx
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
Posted - 2008.03.03 11:04:00 - [55]
 

Edited by: Baxalusx on 03/03/2008 11:05:15
Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 10:35:31

Originally by: Baxalusx
Yes, the Coalition in general are vastly better at diplomacy and cooperating with allies than BoB is/was. Why does this point merit continuous repetition?


Keep dreaming budLaughing it was the ass kickings that BOB dished out and the fear the larger alliances in eve had of losing their space to them that created the coalition not you or your claimed diplomacy skills. Unless you can give another reason why so many have gone home now BOB is no longer a threat to their systems, perhaps you can use your uber diplo skill to get them back to delve.

Oh let me guess you "do not want/need them in delve anyway" so there is no need for you to whip out your "big gun" diplomatic skillsRolling Eyes.


Yes, BoB's mistakes created the Coalition that is now killing them. As a direct result of BoB's inability and unwillingness to cooperate with anyone, we developed extremely efficient venues of communication and very good relationships with our allies. BoB are tactically skilled and often win on the field, but we have total supremacy in every other arena from logistics to diplomacy.

It's true that in many ways, we owe our competences and dedication to BoB's incompetences and arrogance, and while their willingness to fight is admirable and we're grateful for their stupidity, we're still going to make full use of their ineptitude outside the actual field of battle to destroy them, like we have been for the past year.

Edit: What you don't seem to understand is that most of us do acknowledge that BoB is outnumbered and that BoB is quite tactically skilled, we just also see that that is no longer enough to win.

Lucius Ventrue
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.03.03 13:02:00 - [56]
 

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marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2008.03.03 13:16:00 - [57]
 

Edited by: marakor on 03/03/2008 13:22:24
Originally by: Baxalusx
Yes, BoB's mistakes created the Coalition that is now killing them. As a direct result of BoB's inability and unwillingness to cooperate with anyone, we developed extremely efficient venues of communication and very good relationships with our allies. BoB are tactically skilled and often win on the field, but we have total supremacy in every other arena from logistics to diplomacy.

It's true that in many ways, we owe our competences and dedication to BoB's incompetences and arrogance, and while their willingness to fight is admirable and we're grateful for their stupidity, we're still going to make full use of their ineptitude outside the actual field of battle to destroy them, like we have been for the past year.

Edit: What you don't seem to understand is that most of us do acknowledge that BoB is outnumbered and that BoB is quite tactically skilled, we just also see that that is no longer enough to win.



1. BOB's unwillingness to nap most of eve while also conquering a lot of it is something to be respected while your over willingness to do it and claims of it as a skill is rather pathetic tbh.

2. Your claimed venues of diplomacy are a joke considering how many of your former allies are no longer willing to be in delve now BOB is no longer a threat to their space.

3. If your logistics and diplo were as good as you seem to think they are BOB would not have been outnumbering you just recently would they?... considering your coalitions numbers and logistic skills and diplomatic venuesLaughing.

Point 3 must be the most embarrassing thing for your so called (self acclaimed) uber diplomatic and logistically skilled coalition but i am sure you will find some spin or excuse to avoid the issue.

Mattduk
Gallente
Universal Army
Posted - 2008.03.03 13:28:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Bonefish O'Hallahan
Woops



Originally by: NI'shka Delmante
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I find incredible about the whole southern war is that people have such short memories, many are making out that Goons, RA et al are all winning due to huge numbers etc. Let's not forget how this all started:

In the RED corner.
BoB & Allies Standing List


BOB
Black Eclipse [BNC.E]
Black Nova Corp [BNC]
Destructive Influence [DICE]
Evolution [EVOL]
Reikoku [RKK]
Relentless Construction [RKK.C]
TAOSP [TAOSP]
Tin Foil [HAT..]

Corps
Arcane technologies [ATUK]
Constructive Influence [COIN]
Exile Strike Team [EXILE]
Goddess of EvE [KRYZ]
Gobshyte Inc. [-GSI-]
Lions Emporium [POOT]
Morne Attitude
Space Monkeys
True Salvations - (ShakaZ XIV)
Vronsky Bros and Sons


Delve
Omerta Syndicate - (Yuki Li)
Exuro Mortis - (Righteous Fury)


Esoteria
Digital Fury Corp (PRIMARY: Commander Solo, or Tonelock, SECONDARY: Gillard)
Executive Outcomes - (Cosmo Raata / Andar Kreone)
Miners with Attitude - (Jake Noble)
Pyrrhus Sicarii [OHSHT] - (Prefect Six)

Fethyabolis
Boob Heads [BOOB.] - (kenbadger)
Git-R-Dun - (Col Mammoth)
Gods of Night and Day - (Meriones)
Nova Lusitania [NoLu] - (Luso)
QUANT corp. (QTC) -
[DICE] Twister quit
QUANT corp. (QTC) - (Pwett)
Red Moon Federation - (James Britanicus, Omatje)
R I S E - (Eternal Fury, Rhohan, LoKesh, or Baymm)
The Neo Syndicate - (Nival) (Caelestis Hawkeye)

Fountain
Aftermath Alliance
Corelum Syndicate (Joshua Foiritain)
M'8's (Yitro)
OEC [o3c] - (Karash Amerius)
Shadow of Darkness
Xelas Alliance (Blue Flame)
Axiom Empire
YouWhat

Paragon Soul
Dark Rising - (Mitch Taylor)
Gentlemen O'Fortune [GEOF] - (Si Brows)
Quasar Inc [.QSR.] - (Torpedo CSR)
Southern Cross Alliance - (Sharmina)

Period Basis
Dark and Light Inc - (Nemon V3)
GRUNTFUTTOCKS
Mercenary Coalition [BDCI, CONIN, FRICK, ETNY]
Reddish Bears [RBS] - (WitchGhost)
Southern Tactical Fighter Unit - (Mazira)

Querious
British Space Corporation - (Krilos Nereth)
Dawn of Empire (DAOE)
Enfuria - (Conor Steel)
Firmus Ixion (Avernus)
Flashtrooper Corp - (Ft_eastwood)
Folsom Technologies - (xtcy)
FLASHTROOPER CORP [FTFL] - FT_Eastwood
Four Horsemen [LIH]
Freelancing Corp [PAUL]
Gunboat Diplomacy - (spuffofdog) (Nocturne Mra'tharden) (Avril Dewar)
High Guardians of Gallente - (Ze'dex)
Phoenix Knights - (franny)
Satans Delivery Boys [SADB] - (F1Hydro)
Star Blood Industry - (Abygaelle)
Requiem-Aeternam - (Gaaskel and Axeon)
The Two Thrones - (Anhela)

Scalding Pass
Interdiction

Pure Blind and the surrounding Regions
YouWhat
Axiom Empire
Xelas Alliance

Unknown Locations
Lotka Volterra rumored to be moving to Stain
Digital Renegades
Fallen Souls
Minmatar *** Rights League
Fatal Alliance
Southern Connection
Distant Star Alliance
Chorus of Dawn

Surrendered
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate: Surrendered to KOS

My point here is this, they had all the oportunities that we did, they maybe mismanaged their allies slighly and the list grew short.


Scalding Pass?! oO

Raid
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
INTERDICTION
Posted - 2008.03.03 14:01:00 - [59]
 

We're not involved in fighting inside of delve, however we are completely commmitted to the destruction all coalition assets anywhere in eve, for as long as it takes...

Baxalusx
Amarr
GK inc.
Panda Team
Posted - 2008.03.03 14:15:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: marakor
1. BOB's unwillingness to nap most of eve while also conquering a lot of it is something to be respected while your over willingness to do it and claims of it as a skill is rather pathetic tbh.

2. Your claimed venues of diplomacy are a joke considering how many of your former allies are no longer willing to be in delve now BOB is no longer a threat to their space.

3. If your logistics and diplo were as good as you seem to think they are BOB would not have been outnumbering you just recently would they?... considering your coalitions numbers and logistic skills and diplomatic venuesLaughing.

Point 3 must be the most embarrassing thing for your so called (self acclaimed) uber diplomatic and logistically skilled coalition but i am sure you will find some spin or excuse to avoid the issue.


I don't need to spin anything; we clearly agree on the facts of the matter - that BoB are some of the best tactical fighters in the game; that BoB are fighting vastly outnumbered; that BoB is currently losing ground, - you just don't think we "should" win based on those facts. And while you are free to choose to respect BoB for refusing to play the game to its fullest, it seems inconsistent to fault us for doing so, as that's what made BoB the power they once were to begin with.


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