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Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2008.02.13 21:52:00 - [1]
 

Why is the cost of a Rorqual going up?

I had a quote 15 days ago at 1.8B with all 48 Compression BPO's - good deal I thought. Now the price has jumped to 2.3B with or w/o BPO's?

I've been looking at mineral costs in relation to cap building and I don't see this inflationary pressure to reconcile 500M increase?

Any ideas why?

Jacob Mei
Gallente
Posted - 2008.02.13 21:59:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Finanche
Why is the cost of a Rorqual going up?

I had a quote 15 days ago at 1.8B with all 48 Compression BPO's - good deal I thought. Now the price has jumped to 2.3B with or w/o BPO's?

I've been looking at mineral costs in relation to cap building and I don't see this inflationary pressure to reconcile 500M increase?

Any ideas why?


You sure it isnt some individual with no experience in that particular market trying to sell the ship at a huge profit margin while the other supplyers dont have their ships on the market?

Ive noticed from time to time that if regular sellers dont maintain a presence in a certain market for awhile newer providers come in and hope to make a quick profit by jacking up the price in hopes that people either will assume its the standard cost or just buy it because they need it.

Arhes Branwin
The Executives
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2008.02.13 21:59:00 - [3]
 

Greed? Excuse me...I mean..Supply and Demand?

Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
Posted - 2008.02.13 22:00:00 - [4]
 

Time = money. Building Cap ships = loads of time. In situations where production lines are limited and time is a finite resource in all scenarios one has to consider what else can be done with those lines and time.

There's a shift in demand in the cap market and building a rorq at your quoted cost would make less profit then making a different cap ship that is in high demand. Thus if you want a producer to build it for you you're going to have to expect to pay a competitive rate for their time and lines.


techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.02.13 22:17:00 - [5]
 

Because it's only recently been discovered to be a robot in disguise Shocked

jita pc232323
Posted - 2008.02.13 22:46:00 - [6]
 

My Rorqual cost 1.5b bought from a supplier within my current alliance - that was 1 week ago.
2.3b is just greed.

Confused

Eshestun
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.02.13 22:53:00 - [7]
 

I personally think there is no such thing as greed on a market. If a price is too high, which you could call "greed" then an undercutting war will start until they can not lower it any lower or they will be taking a loss. Supply and demand is the name of the game, greed has nothing to do with it.

Abaddon Doomhammer
Posted - 2008.02.13 22:54:00 - [8]
 

Demand. Since the carrier nerf, something had to replace it correct?

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:01:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Abaddon Doomhammer
Demand. Since the carrier nerf, something had to replace it correct?

For ten seconds I had an image of a capital ship pilot triumphantly thundering into a massive fleet battle in his Rorqual. Laughing

DrAtomic
Atomic Heroes
Chain of Chaos
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:04:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Abaddon Doomhammer
Demand. Since the carrier nerf, something had to replace it correct?

For ten seconds I had an image of a capital ship pilot triumphantly thundering into a massive fleet battle in his Rorqual. Laughing


That'll be the patch after this one... Zulu when (note not if) he announces that the Rorqual is not being used as intended and as such it will be nerfed hardcore but boosted with a 100% salvager range bonus.

Jonny MoJo
Amarr
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:08:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Jonny MoJo on 13/02/2008 23:08:31
Originally by: Finanche
Why is the cost of a Rorqual going up?

I had a quote 15 days ago at 1.8B with all 48 Compression BPO's - good deal I thought. Now the price has jumped to 2.3B with or w/o BPO's?

I've been looking at mineral costs in relation to cap building and I don't see this inflationary pressure to reconcile 500M increase?

Any ideas why?


Yes. Shuttle costs NINE THOUSAND but in some stations it costs TEN MILLION. Why is that?

Is it because someone wants to rip you off?

Rorqurel costs around 1.5bil to make and thats being expensive. Which greedy scammer is giving you the quote?

mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:09:00 - [12]
 

So build them and sell them? I dont under the problem, or the question I guess.

yeah, I guess I need to ask you, why arent you selling them then?

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:14:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: James Lyrus on 13/02/2008 23:15:52
Yeah, we've been gouging you.

You've formed a cartel, with all the rorqual sellers, and have quite specifically set up to not sell you a cheap rorqual at all.

or, perhaps, it's because:

Carrier hauling got nerfed.
Everyone who used to carrier haul, now has a choice of rorqual, or jump freighter.

Jump freighters are insanely overpriced, and a great big fat target, where rorquals have an approximation of a life expectancy, becaues they can fit ... modules. At all.

Every rorqual I've seen at less than the current price, has been bought and resold at the current price.

People are starting to finish their rorqual training since patch day. Demand is high, because everyone in 0.0 is now pretty dependant on jump drive logistics.

Oh, and the Rorqual BPO itself, costs 3 billion, and you can only buy it in 0.0.

That's not exactly a small gamble to take, even if the odds are in your favour. (Consider if you will, that the market price of a Covetor was about 3x mineral cost, fairly steadily until T2 barges became available).

that's in addition to the cost of the _other_ capital BPOs, which clock in at about 15 billion worth of investment.

So let me ask you, what sort of time scale would you like to recover _your_ 18 billion capital outlay in? Compared, I mean, to the 2 week construction time of a Rorqual.

Finanche
Minmatar
Salus Novus
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2008.02.13 23:29:00 - [14]
 

good post James Lyrus - that makes sense. In fact, it looks like 2.3B is a good price for the conditions you indicate that are causing this inflation in both need and price.



 

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