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woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:07:00 - [151]
 

hello again.

new feature : industry production. screen shows what you are producing and when it is done and where. it's beta for the moment and will be enhanced within the next few days (invention etc). enjoy... :)

screenshot is, as usual, on the about page.

cheerios, woddel

ps : during extended downtime tomorrow, eve commander will be down as well. this, as ccp also turns of the api servers for the time needed to release the empyrean age expansion.

Dmian
Gallente
Gallenterrorisme
Posted - 2008.06.09 21:27:00 - [152]
 

Woddel, just a little suggestion about the site: if you group the preview pictures on lightbox, the pictures can be navigated using next/previous. Right now you have to click one by one.
Also: are you using tables for layout?
You should really consider moving to a tableless design. Really, when you get to understand it, it's faster than using table layout (and more flexible.) You'll never use Dreamweaver to code a page again Very Happy

Jita Jolene
Posted - 2008.06.11 20:48:00 - [153]
 

So you have made it so all the data comes to your site. Isn't it a bit handy to have all that information about eve players in your hands?

Your privacy statement does read that individual info is kept confidential. I did not see where the broad statistics generated will not be used to the benefit of those running the database. It would be nice to see market trends before they become obvious to individuals. To see where the ISK in eve really lies. Not saying you intend these things, but nobody would know if you did.

Data harvesting FTW?

No thanks. Stand alone application, or nothing to do with it at all.

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.11 21:21:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Jita Jolene
So you have made it so all the data comes to your site. Isn't it a bit handy to have all that information about eve players in your hands?

Your privacy statement does read that individual info is kept confidential. I did not see where the broad statistics generated will not be used to the benefit of those running the database. It would be nice to see market trends before they become obvious to individuals. To see where the ISK in eve really lies. Not saying you intend these things, but nobody would know if you did.

Data harvesting FTW?

No thanks. Stand alone application, or nothing to do with it at all.


hi jita jolene

i know the thread is getting longer and longer. this item has been discussed several times befor further up the thread.

in the end, it's a matter of trust. no exception to that.

but it sure would be interesting to make such broad trend analysis on the basis of a few hundred users spread across an universe with about 5000 starsystems and a total user base of a few hundred thousand. very very representative and worth the trouble to loose all confidence of the eve commander users in me and grinding the project to a sure death. that must be what i would like to happen. sure... :)

end of comments. cheerios, woddel.
ps: and thanks for the free bump... :)

Jita Jolene
Posted - 2008.06.11 21:38:00 - [155]
 

I did read all the posts AFTER I made mine. After reading them all, my confidence in the product pretty much fell to zero. No source code, no way.

You may be trustworthy and have no ulterior motives, but that does not remove the risk someone makes by using your program. The wise arse comment about the value of your user data does wonders for the confidence.

Using this with the full API has to be the most irresponsible thing someone with directorship in large corp or alliance could do to betray the trust others place in them.

Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.11 21:44:00 - [156]
 

Edited by: Jaabaa Prime on 11/06/2008 21:44:45
Originally by: woddel
in the end, it's a matter of trust. no exception to that.

Correct, there are no exceptions in EVE, as EVE's history has already shown:

EIB Scam ISK Value: 800 billion ISK
GHSC infiltration ISK Value: 30 billion ISK
Get Rich Quick: Corp Theft ISK Value: 25 billion ISK

Then you come with:

EVE Commander (all your characters on the account, all their wallet information, trades, trade routes, etc.) ISK Value: almost immeasurable.

Go figure ..... would you *REALLY* trust someone else with your online API key unless you *REALLY* have to ?

Kaber Jost
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.06.11 22:32:00 - [157]
 

So don't use it. It's that simple.

Phallan Jardis
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.06.11 22:37:00 - [158]
 

Isn't it clear enough guys?
Don't want to, don't do it!
You sound like an old story common in Mexico:

There's and old hag hanging around in the windowpane in her living room. Then sees a pair of teenagers kissing and fondling each other. She calls police, police tells the guys to go cuddle somewhere else. This situation repeats itself twice, each time the police taking the guys 1 block away. Third time the lady calls, police officer says "But, Ma'am, we've taken em 3 blocks away!" and the lady says "yeah, but i can still see em with binoculars".

As woddel says, its all about trust. If u want to, give ur key. I u don't, just steer clear. I, for one, gave my Full API key, with all things that imply....as said, i can easily reset the key if something starts smelling fishy.
What all those flamers sound like is "If I had this info, I would (scam/gank/sell spy info/insert your favorite paranoid delusion here) instead of helping the Community"
For traders...EveMeep does require Full API key, don't it? So, what's the matter?

Phallan Jardis
Member of Virtual Life Vanguard
Sylph Alliance
Playing Eve since Sept 2007

Not related in anyway with woddel. I'm just his customer.

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.12 05:42:00 - [159]
 

Edited by: woddel on 12/06/2008 07:26:30
Originally by: Jita Jolene
Using this with the full API has to be the most irresponsible thing someone with directorship in large corp or alliance could do to betray the trust others place in them.


i agree with you that very influential chars will rather be more defensive with their keys. this is perfectly reasonable and correct. but i would like to say that these persons are not the main target group of eve commander - not everybody has been in the game for years and years like your main character must be. but the corp data features in eve commander are really great for ceos and directors of small corporations (let's say less than 50 people) who want to have an easy overview of what is happening.

for all larger corps or even alliances, there is the corporate edition of eve commander which a corp can install on their own webserver, including source code and support for feature upgrades. you must have missed this scanning through the older posts... :) so, that could cover their needs too.

cheerios, woddel

ps : and if this would be a scam indeed, i don't think i would put that much work into it. getting the api keys in some way would suffice. no need to work countless hours and hours on new features and options... :)

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.13 18:40:00 - [160]
 

hello all

kirith kodachi wrote about eve commander in his blog:

http://ninveah.blogspot.com/2008/06/review-eve-commander.html

cheerios, woddel

Viqtoria
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.06.13 18:47:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: Jita Jolene
So you have made it so all the data comes to your site. Isn't it a bit handy to have all that information about eve players in your hands?

Your privacy statement does read that individual info is kept confidential. I did not see where the broad statistics generated will not be used to the benefit of those running the database. It would be nice to see market trends before they become obvious to individuals. To see where the ISK in eve really lies. Not saying you intend these things, but nobody would know if you did.

Data harvesting FTW?

No thanks. Stand alone application, or nothing to do with it at all.



dude.

Woddel joined eve uni, they never seemed like a real newb for a second, almost immediately they then create this nice little application that sucks all the info about you via api to their *own PC, and has features that industry types and long term players would like and everything, and on and on....*own pc!


what else is kinda funny is their name sounds like kodell who was also in eve uni/ivy league/NAGA, a big industry type and a 'member' of GHSC (no not my corp, the other one Razz) iirc.

Data harvesting? hell yeahExclamation

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.13 20:49:00 - [162]
 

hello viqtoria

hmmm, interesting. your name sounds like victoria, which was once queen of england. so, you must be very famous and very very dead or you had a terrible typo when you created your character... :) so much for character names.

for most of your comment, i refer to my post nr 157 a bit up.

and last, it's not a THEY, it's a ME. one man show.

and isn't eve uni the place to go when one is new? this was recommended to me when i was new and that's why i joined there. only the continuous war decs by others made me leave because i am not the pvp type guy.

cheerios, woddel

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.17 21:20:00 - [163]
 

hello all...

a new page 'market data' is available:

it gives you vital help in planning your trading routes : see all prices for your trade portfolio in all your trading stations based on your own data exports. you can also check out detailed market orders and prices in all your stations for specific items.

all data has to be collected by you using market exports. advantage: it's as current and complete as you need it to be (in comparison to eve central). disadvantage: it's a bit of work... :)

but you can link it together with your corp mates, alts or friends to use one shared pool of data to get the most out of it. except in this case, there is no sharing or exchange of data with other users of eve commander. me included, of course.

current users of eve commander: check out the online help for more information.

screenshots are available here.

cheerios, woddel

Uda Nahn
Pukin' Dogs
Posted - 2008.06.18 20:08:00 - [164]
 

Great tool, great guy! I know him personally and yes, he is a noob eve-wise but a very good coder Very Happy

Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.18 22:36:00 - [165]
 

Originally by: Uda Nahn
Great tool, great guy! I know him personally and yes, he is a noob eve-wise but a very good coder Very Happy

Yeah, we believe you.

Like hell we do ...

Gigi Kent
Caldari
Posted - 2008.06.18 23:01:00 - [166]
 

Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Originally by: Uda Nahn
Great tool, great guy! I know him personally and yes, he is a noob eve-wise but a very good coder Very Happy

Yeah, we believe you.

Like hell we do ...


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Stop trolling trolly mc trollykins
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Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2008.06.18 23:11:00 - [167]
 

Originally by: Gigi Kent
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Stop trolling trolly mc trollykins
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Laughing

Not trolling (but some might call your post that), just warning the EVE community.

So consider my post as a public service. Knowledge is power, so don't give that knowledge about your character (all alts on you account), especially the full API (just about everything you do in EVE), to anyone.

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.19 09:00:00 - [168]
 

:) i also thank you for providing the public service of bumping this thread.

cheerios, woddel


Misspelled
Posted - 2008.06.19 13:00:00 - [169]
 

pretty amazing for traders


could you include corp data with it please? id like to sort my corp hangars with that

Varrakk
Menace ll Society
Posted - 2008.06.19 14:38:00 - [170]
 

Shocked
Awesome! I wanted exactly this kinda tool, wich we could read and send evemails with Full API keys....HINT-HINT

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.19 15:57:00 - [171]
 

Originally by: Misspelled
pretty amazing for traders
could you include corp data with it please? id like to sort my corp hangars with that


hello misspelled

you can have that. if you are ceo of your corp, write me a note and i can activate corporate data for you. check out the history page for more details.

cheerios, woddel

Uda Nahn
Pukin' Dogs
Posted - 2008.06.19 21:37:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
Originally by: Uda Nahn
Great tool, great guy! I know him personally and yes, he is a noob eve-wise but a very good coder Very Happy

Yeah, we believe you.


Up to you mate, but honestly I give a damn if you believe me or not Laughing

Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
United Imperial Fleet
Posted - 2008.06.22 02:42:00 - [173]
 

Edited by: Ikki Phoenix on 22/06/2008 02:50:01
As the owner of EveMag,I would like to remind everyone that Woddel has written an article for our 2nd issue,explaining Eve Commander and its features.You can download EveMag by clicking on the link in my signature
------------------
On a personal note, as an Eve pilot,I would like to also provide a free bump for Eve Commander and a review.
I have been a client/user of Woddel's Eve Commander ever since it was released and I don't have any complaints.
The tool is great and the support is great.
Every time myself or one of my guys has had a problem(we are also using the corporate tools),Woddel took the time to fix and explain.
I would recommend this tool and doing business with Woddel to any Eve players

Mercurus
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.23 08:45:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Ikki Phoenix
You can download EveMag by clicking on the link in my signature


Cannot find sig or link Crying or Very sad

Please link againRolling Eyes


woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.25 11:50:00 - [175]
 

hello all

the corporate edition of eve commander is now ready for deployment. two orders are already in the works!

the corporate edition of eve commander allows eve commander to be hosted on the player corp's own webserver or hosting provider (as long as the technical requirements can be met). this gives an additional layer of security to your sensitive data, plus allowing all your corp mates to use eve commander for free on your own copy.

more details about the corporate edition can be found here:

http://www.eve-commander.com/corporate.cfm

for questions, please contact me by email. only ceo's or people with ceo's approval can order.

cheerios, woddel

Ikki Phoenix
Gallente
United Imperial Fleet
Posted - 2008.06.26 09:27:00 - [176]
 

Edited by: Ikki Phoenix on 26/06/2008 09:28:41
Originally by: Mercurus
Originally by: Ikki Phoenix
You can download EveMag by clicking on the link in my signature


Cannot find sig or link Crying or Very sad

Please link againRolling Eyes




Here it is http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/avguste/EveMag2.pdf
And it can also be accessed thru the link on my signature


Drizit
Amarr
Posted - 2008.06.26 09:46:00 - [177]
 

Nice Idea Woddel but I personally think more players would go for it if you created a stand-alone application that they could download and run on their own PC.

If you've been playing Eve that long, you'll know why players feel a bit edgy about giving out full access to information about their characters.

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.26 11:36:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Drizit
Nice Idea Woddel but I personally think more players would go for it if you created a stand-alone application that they could download and run on their own PC.

If you've been playing Eve that long, you'll know why players feel a bit edgy about giving out full access to information about their characters.



hello drizit

here a quote from an older post, answering your questions:
"as written on a few previous posts a few pages up, eve commander has been explicitly developed as a web application (coldfusion and sql: this is what i CAN do). it can't be 'transformed' into a desktop standalone app (C+ or VB: something i can NOT program). i can only achieve results according to my programming skills. and also, i would not WANT to have a desktop app, as then i need to install something more on my computer and i could quite possibly NOT use it at work (or at school/uni for all scholars out there). check post #112 for more on this."

as said, desktop apps is something i don't know how to do. this i leave to some other coders out there... :)

cheerios, woddel

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2008.06.26 21:02:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Drizit
Nice Idea Woddel but I personally think more players would go for it...



oh, and this is not my greatest goal at all. currently, the userbase is way beyond 600 and i a very content about that. i don't expect that everybody is going to want to use eve commander. that is not intended at all. i rather keep a small crowd happy than a too large userbase with too many questions unanswered. i would not have the time for that. see post 173 for more about that... :)

cheerios, woddel

naked rabbit
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.29 08:40:00 - [180]
 

Dear Woddel

Thank you for maintaining that nice Application! I enjoy it very much. But I have one questions : Could you make a feature where I can compare the skills of two characters directly side by side? (like me and my Alt) That would be very nice!

Fly Safe!


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