Posted - 2008.01.30 13:43:00 - [3]

 

What No?

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:08:00 - [5]

 

Originally by: ToxicFire

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This is not wow we don't have addons we don't have custom ui's we have eve fullstop

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wow, not wow, no matter.

Im ask Why?

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:16:00 - [7]

 

Originally by: ry ry

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Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 14:14:30

Originally by: ToxicFire

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This is not wow we don't have addons we don't have custom ui's we have eve fullstop

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Assuming you mean 'This is not wow' in the pejorative sense, why would a customisable UI be a bad thing?

i can think of no logical reason not to put it in, beyond cpp having to allocate dev-time to write the code to facilitate it. if the demand was there, i'm sure they'd seriously look into doing it.


+1 for customisable GUI.

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One good reason is that a highly customisable ui makes it extremely easy for screen scraping macro's

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:19:00 - [9]

 

Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:22:59
Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:20:18
Macro-shmacro... u can do it in any case. Just now. And no need to customize GUI.

Topic not about macroses.

If u didn see any difference behind macroses and addons - so sad.

May be this help understand something.

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:24:00 - [11]

 

Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:32:50
Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:25:40

Originally by: ToxicFire

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Originally by: Stormaar

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Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:20:18
Macro-shmacro... u can do it in any case. Just now. And no need to customize GUI.

Topic not about macroses.

If u didn see any difference behind macroses and addons - so sad.

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Didn't say that addons are macro's im just saying you give the community the tools to customize the interface the macroer's are just gonna use it to make their life easier.

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Macroers have easy life. Just look at last post of ry ry, and look at "Overview" - greatest instrument to automate anything at all. Ouch, and skill training - can be automated. Easy, right? Some time for reading right books and voi la - u have Ultimate EVE-uber controller.

It's not a problem of addons. In any case CCP can regulate functionality trough API functions.

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:46:00 - [13]

 

Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 14:50:19

Originally by: Calethiel

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I would say vote "no" on cheating...er I mean UI mods.

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Where u see cheating? Explain pls.

Just look at this, and tell me pls where u see here a "cheating".

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:49:00 - [15]

 

Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 30/01/2008 14:51:14

My guess is that CCP have a limited number of developers and would rather have them working on other things.

A spiffy UI API would be nice but if you look at the concerns of the player base (i.e. count the whines) there are lots of other things people would rather have.

Culturally... Can I say culturally without sounding like an arse? Anyway, culturally, it's not something that Eve has been big on. Hence the "this is not WoW" replies to the OP. I think a lot of people would explain this by saying that it's about playing the game, not having to install 35 UI addons so that you're not at a disadvantage.

Finally, you'd have to be really careful about any UI development. Easier access to a lot of information could unbalance things. Take the market as an example; if you could sc**** market info and present it in a better form you could make an absolute fortune.

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Originally by: ry ry

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what fresh new CHEATINGLOL are you expecting from people being able to reposition elements of the interface?

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An API is more than just being able to reposition interface elements. Unless you're talking about a pretty crap API.

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:54:00 - [17]

 

Edited by: ry ry on 30/01/2008 14:55:01

Originally by: Emily Spankratchet

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An API is more than just being able to reposition interface elements. Unless you're talking about a pretty crap API.

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customisable UI is all i ever said i wanted. i'm easily pleased.

well, that and i thought i was still replying to the "customisable UI makes it eazy to sc**** the screen noobz" guy. ¬_¬

Posted - 2008.01.30 14:57:00 - [19]

 

Originally by: Emily Spankratchet

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Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 30/01/2008 14:51:14

My guess is that CCP have a limited number of developers and would rather have them working on other things.

A spiffy UI API would be nice but if you look at the concerns of the player base (i.e. count the whines) there are lots of other things people would rather have.

Culturally... Can I say culturally without sounding like an arse? Anyway, culturally, it's not something that Eve has been big on. Hence the "this is not WoW" replies to the OP. I think a lot of people would explain this by saying that it's about playing the game, not having to install 35 UI addons so that you're not at a disadvantage.

Finally, you'd have to be really careful about any UI development. Easier access to a lot of information could unbalance things. Take the market as an example; if you could sc**** market info and present it in a better form you could make an absolute fortune.

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Originally by: ry ry

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what fresh new CHEATINGLOL are you expecting from people being able to reposition elements of the interface?

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An API is more than just being able to reposition interface elements. Unless you're talking about a pretty crap API.

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Thats all regulated as i wrote.

And here another point. Custamisable UI can make life slightly easyer for newcomers. Don't think only about urself. Some people stop to play when the see default interface.

Posted - 2008.01.30 15:02:00 - [21]

 

Originally by: Steve Hawkings

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This is EVE not WOW,
I would like to keep it that way,
UI is fine.

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UI is fine for what? I cant move some things for example, im dont wonna hud i mid-center of screen. I wonna see scrambl/jamm etc not only as aura - show me icon. I wonna move progress indicator. May i continiu?

Posted - 2008.01.30 15:08:00 - [23]

 

Let me give you a real example of why this is not allowed.

Lets say you customize your UI to blink/make sounds and go freaky as soon as someone enter local. Voila, you have an advantage over everyone else in reacting to the threat of being popped by pirates before you notice they are there.

EVE needs to be carefully balanced and give everyone the same experience, simlpy because it is geared towards so much PVP and the hunter/hunted philosophy. Giving one or the other a significant advantage would break this careful balance.

Posted - 2008.01.30 15:10:00 - [25]

 

Edited by: Stormaar on 30/01/2008 15:13:34

Originally by: ApaKaka

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Let me give you a real example of why this is not allowed.

Lets say you customize your UI to blink/make sounds and go freaky as soon as someone enter local. Voila, you have an advantage over everyone else in reacting to the threat of being popped by pirates before you notice they are there.

EVE needs to be carefully balanced and give everyone the same experience, simlpy because it is geared towards so much PVP and the hunter/hunted philosophy. Giving one or the other a significant advantage would break this careful balance.

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So, u cant read at all. Im repeat for u personaly - API regulated by CCP.

And thing with authorized developers teams from community members... if CCP wonna control process.

Posted - 2008.01.30 15:24:00 - [27]

 

Originally by: ApaKaka

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EVE needs to be carefully balanced and give everyone the same experience...

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You make a good point overall, but since when has EVE been "carefully balanced"?

Posted - 2008.01.30 15:30:00 - [29]

 

I'd like them, the UI is "Not that ideal" for me atm, and appears to grow more unstable with every patch.