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Grismar
Gallente
Vertigo Corp
Posted - 2008.01.22 08:54:00 - [1]
 

This came up in another thread, but since it's more of a suggestion, I'd like to briefly post it here:

Wouldn't it be good to restrict the use of T2 BPOs to POS labs in sufficiently low security? The in character rationale could be that CONCORD no longer approves of just anyone producing large amounts of T2 in safe space, for whatever reason you feel is valid. Upsetting the balance of power or something along those lines.

As a game mechanic, this brings T2 BPOs into play in a way that allows players to win them, not by luck or by simply paying through the nose, but by actually playing the game. Ofcourse, it still won't be for everyone. Over time, this is likely to have most BPOs end up in the labs of large alliances, able to defend them properly. But I think that situation is preferable to the BPOs being 100% secure in Jita or thereabouts right now.

Perhaps this would be a good compromise between the balance ****'s demanding the BPOs be taken out of the game and the BPO owners claiming they won their BPOs fair and square or actually paid a lot of isk for them.

Greetings,
Grismar.


LiLChris06
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.22 09:24:00 - [2]
 

Im a inventor and dont own a t2 BPO.

And I think this idea is kinda unfair, its not as bad as the other ones where they wanna remove t2 BPOs or turn them to high run BPCs.

Ellaine TashMurkon
CBC Interstellar
Tactical Narcotics Team
Posted - 2008.01.22 10:29:00 - [3]
 

Good idea :)

It doesn't have to be highsec space, any POS is ok, a corp with highsec POS can be wardecced.
Owner can naturally cancel jobs and hide the BPO in hangar, but in long term he looses profit per month and may feel forced to sell the BPO to invest into something with a return.

I think this would require making POS advanced assemblys a little better and easier to handle.

100% safe money printers are not so good for the game.

Conrad Rock
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.01.22 13:45:00 - [4]
 

T2 BPO's should only be usable in player labs in low-sec and null-sec.

And they should always drop when the labs are popped :)

Tired of solo people making trillions just cause they got lucky.

Time to put some work into owning them.

Buyerr
Posted - 2008.01.22 14:02:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: LiLChris06
Im a inventor and dont own a t2 BPO.

And I think this idea is kinda unfair, its not as bad as the other ones where they wanna remove t2 BPOs or turn them to high run BPCs.


t2 bpo's is what is the unfair thing here..either they should be removed or reinserted.

Andreas Kallesoee
Celestial Horizon Corp.
United Corporate Ventures
Posted - 2008.01.22 18:00:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Buyerr
Originally by: LiLChris06
Im a inventor and dont own a t2 BPO.

And I think this idea is kinda unfair, its not as bad as the other ones where they wanna remove t2 BPOs or turn them to high run BPCs.


t2 bpo's is what is the unfair thing here..either they should be removed or reinserted.


EG: Buyerr is a whiner and want the "I WIN" bpo for himself so he can sit on his behind and print iskies for him self

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.01.22 20:41:00 - [7]
 

Re-instate the lottery!

Chunks Blown
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2008.01.22 21:30:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Chunks Blown on 22/01/2008 21:30:36
They should seed some BPO's for the 'older' tech 2 items. And ammo. Interceptors, AF's and tech2 ammo should all be seeded.

How many times do you have to invent something before you learn how to build it?

ghosttr
Amarr
ARK-CORP
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.01.23 01:22:00 - [9]
 

I think that T2 bpos should only be usable in poses, and in outposts. This way the BPOs will never be 100% safe. Very Happy

Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
Posted - 2008.01.23 02:41:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: ghosttr
I think that T2 bpos should only be usable in poses, and in outposts. This way the BPOs will never be 100% safe. Very Happy


Correction, the BPOs will never be.

Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2008.01.23 03:02:00 - [11]
 

imho t2 BPO's should be either offered in loyalty stores of the t2 corporation (ex Ishtar in CreoDron's store only) for a load of LP's... or purchasable on the market like normal bpo's but of course much more expensive (t1 bpo - like 1mil while t2 bpo 100mil).

The first solution is how the matter could be resolved now... the second solution is how it should have been done when t2 stuff was introduced into the game (doing it now would make things a bit unfair... but there were many expansions making some groups unfair [like reducing number of drones froem 15 to 5 for drones ships - making them easier to pick off in combat])... so...

The present situation is MOST unfair for new players - those that had no opportunity to participate in the lotteries back old days. DAMN HELL UNFAIR.

T2 should be expensive like hell - but still available to everyone. Invention will loose some of its meaning yet still it will be a way for peoples not interested in mass production to make stuff on their own (without having to invest vast resources into the purchase of t2 bpo).

Either removal of t2 bpos or making them available to everyone - otherwise there will be always whinning about that. No matter how EVE will evolve :)

Tarron Sarek
Gallente
Biotronics Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
Posted - 2008.01.23 04:20:00 - [12]
 

Uhm, there already are a couple of T2 ships and modules which don't have a corresponding T2 BPO to begin with.

Just as a small reminder. Funny nobody mentions it.

LiLChris06
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2008.01.23 04:20:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: ghosttr
I think that T2 bpos should only be usable in poses, and in outposts. This way the BPOs will never be 100% safe. Very Happy


Ever heard of the skill Scientific Networking?
read up on it, and ull see it will still be safe using a POS

Tasko Pal
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.23 07:36:00 - [14]
 

If there ever is a problem with tech 2 BPOs, then we have plenty of solutions. As I see it, there isn't. Eventually, Eve will come out with something that will completely obselete these things. In the meantime, there's plenty of ways to make huge amounts of isk. Do one of those rather than trying to screw with Eve's game mechanics to destroy someone else's wealth.


 

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