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Jeff Mitchell
Caldari
United Eve Directorate
Posted - 2008.01.21 02:30:00 - [1]
 

Hey can anyone here give me a few pointers on fitting a chimera. I have read all the posts and as most of them are before trinity, i am not going to invest in them much.

- this is what i have gathered that would be a good setup

High
- 2 DCU
- 2 nos/neut/rep/booster
- 1 smart bomb

Medium
- 1 Capital sheild booster
- 1 t2 boost amp
- 3 hardeners (invuln II)
- 1 Sensor booster II w/scan res script
The last slot im not sure, maybe another hardener or possibly target painter if i dont have support.

Low
this is were ppl seem to argue some say power relays other say pdu's..

Now this is for a general fleet setup, not giant blob warfare. And not against 5 dreads. -Allot of people say put faction/officer mods on it, but as any sane person would relize. Those mods may save your life but if your down to that point chances are your screwed anyways. So im not spending billions on mods. Any help would be appreciated.




Concordokken Plox
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.01.21 02:45:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Concordokken Plox on 21/01/2008 04:06:10
High
- 3 DCU
- 1 Cap Shield Transporter
- 1 Smartbomb

Meds
- 1 Cap Shield Booster
- 2 DG/CN Amps
- 3 DG/CN Invulns
- 1 Cap Recharger

Lows
- 3 PDUs
- 1 DCU II

Edit: Put "3 DG/CN Hardeners" when I meant "3 DG/CN Invulns"

Avery Fatwallet
Posted - 2008.01.21 03:06:00 - [3]
 

never flew one, just looking at it in EFT, because im bored...

i would be tempted to go with cfcII because that makes the cap shield booster permarun without penalty.

although stacking best named CPRs with SBAs works, too, with lower tankable dps tho. but its less prone to neuts.

oh and IF you want to go faction... maybe 2x CN/DG invuls and a DCUII as the only resistance modules would work?

Susa Ou
Posted - 2008.01.21 03:52:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Susa Ou on 21/01/2008 03:54:19
Originally by: Concordokken Plox
High
- 3 DCU
- 1 Cap Shield Transporter
- 1 Smartbomb

Meds
- 1 Cap Shield Booster
- 2 DG/CN Amps
- 3 DG/CN Hardeners
- 1 Cap Recharger

Lows
- 3 PDUs
- 1 DCU II


this, and change the highs accordingly - the ship really needs high Carrier skill to make use of that resistance. . .

Overall, the Archon simplyy has a better tank, more sustainability and remote armor repping is a little more useful then remote shield transfer. . .So even though I have been tempted to train for the Chimera, I may take the extra 30 days or so to do Amarr BB 5 for the archon.

Daren Kai
Caldari
War Tactical Groups
White Noise.
Posted - 2008.01.21 05:58:00 - [5]
 

Without faction modules chimera is quite average. If you ready to spend about 700-800mil on fitting, than i think it will be something like this:
high: 2 dcu\smartbombs, cap energy transfer, cap shield transfer, triage mod.
med: cap shield buster, cn amplifier, 2 cn invul, 3 cap recharges
low: damage control, 3 true sansha cpr
rigs: 3 CCC

With proper skills this give you ability to run you shield buster forever, even when you in triage.

Arron S
Gallente
Soviet Directorate of Eve
Posted - 2008.01.21 11:24:00 - [6]
 

Corp mate of mine can perma run his capital shield booster on his Chimera.

Chimera has probably the strongest tank out of all the Carriers, if you use Crystal Implants.

Ogul
Caldari
ZiTek Deepspace Explorations
United Front Alliance
Posted - 2008.01.21 11:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Arron S
Corp mate of mine can perma run his capital shield booster on his Chimera.

Chimera has probably the strongest tank out of all the Carriers, if you use Crystal Implants.



Were it not for the fact that crystals don't work on capital shield boosters...

Arron S
Gallente
Soviet Directorate of Eve
Posted - 2008.01.21 11:29:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Ogul
Originally by: Arron S
Corp mate of mine can perma run his capital shield booster on his Chimera.

Chimera has probably the strongest tank out of all the Carriers, if you use Crystal Implants.



Were it not for the fact that crystals don't work on capital shield boosters...

*Fire Bombs CCP*

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.21 12:39:00 - [9]
 

Oof. Chimera needs this:

Highs:

2x smartbomb
2x capital shield rep
1x cloak

Mids:

1x capital booster
2x boost amp T2
2x dread guristas invulnerability field
2x sensorbooster with scan res

Lows:

4x true sansha capacitor power relay

Rigs:

3x ccc I

Tanks 5.4k dps perma with alot of cap to spare for remote repping, and has awesome lock speed.


Bring it on, i can take it.

Jeff Mitchell
Caldari
United Eve Directorate
Posted - 2008.01.21 19:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Oof. Chimera needs this:

Highs:

2x smartbomb
2x capital shield rep
1x cloak

Mids:

1x capital booster
2x boost amp T2
2x dread guristas invulnerability field
2x sensorbooster with scan res

Lows:

4x true sansha capacitor power relay

Rigs:

3x ccc I

Tanks 5.4k dps perma with alot of cap to spare for remote repping, and has awesome lock speed.


Bring it on, i can take it.



I dont see the point of the cloak, if i wanted to hide id be in a buzzard. and again there is the question pdu's or power relays. Some say pdu other say pwr relay.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.21 19:56:00 - [11]
 

Cloak = ability to go afk. You'll like that, especially hwen you've got a gf or kids around, and i have neither.

CPR's = Infinicap(tm) No debate.

Byzan Zwyth
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2008.01.21 20:09:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Byzan Zwyth on 21/01/2008 20:11:07
For on the field, dont use DCU's

1x Capital remote shield rep
1x Capital remote armor rep
1x Cloak
2x Large smartbomb

1x Cap booster
2x T2 or faction boost amp
2x Dread gurist invulns
2x Sensor booster II & scripts

4x Faction (dark blood/true sansha) capacitor power relay (~25mil each)

CPR boost penalty is stack nerfed, 3rd one is just less than 5% penalty, 4th is stuff all penalty. Also the fitting req's for CPR's is really low.

3x CCC

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.21 20:10:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
For on the field, dont use DCU's

1x Capital remote shield rep
1x Capital remote armor rep
1x Cloak
2x Large smartbomb

1x Cap booster
2x T2 or faction boost amp
2x Dread gurist invulns
2x Sensor booster II & scripts

4x Faction (dark blood/true sansha) capacitor power relay (~25mil each)

CPR boost penalty is stack nerfed, 3rd one is just less than 5% penalty, 4th is stuff all penalty.

3x CCC



<3

If i was a general i'd promote you.

Jeff Mitchell
Caldari
United Eve Directorate
Posted - 2008.01.23 02:38:00 - [14]
 

ok so what if i fit 3 cpr and 1 damage control II. Damage controls will boost my resit pretty high.

Jeff Mitchell
Caldari
United Eve Directorate
Posted - 2008.01.23 02:39:00 - [15]
 

and I dont understand why do people suggest PDU's. I can probally do all the calculations and figure it out but Id rather get an opinion from people that fly this ship nd have experiance with diffrent fittings

Concordokken Plox
Amarr
Imperial Academy
Posted - 2008.01.23 02:44:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Jeff Mitchell
and I dont understand why do people suggest PDU's. I can probally do all the calculations and figure it out but Id rather get an opinion from people that fly this ship nd have experiance with diffrent fittings


I never really liked using the CPRs or CFCs because of the penalties. I use PDUs because they add shield and stuff (I use officer PDUs though Embarassed )

Jeff Mitchell
Caldari
United Eve Directorate
Posted - 2008.01.23 02:48:00 - [17]
 

yeah i see the penalty but they stack nerf, so the sheild boost amp will counter that and give you the cap to boost. Only problem is if you cant boost the DPS. Thats were I see the PDU and damage control come in handy.

Diehard Si
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2008.01.23 12:34:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Diehard Si on 23/01/2008 12:34:36
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Edited by: Byzan Zwyth on 21/01/2008 20:11:07
For on the field, dont use DCU's

Why is that then? With Carrier 4, surely having 2 or 3 extra drones is a massive increase in damage? 33% extra damage infact.

Or are we thinking spider tanking ability > damage output? YARRRR!!

Waxau
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2008.01.23 12:40:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Diehard Si
Edited by: Diehard Si on 23/01/2008 12:34:36
Originally by: Byzan Zwyth
Edited by: Byzan Zwyth on 21/01/2008 20:11:07
For on the field, dont use DCU's

Why is that then? With Carrier 4, surely having 2 or 3 extra drones is a massive increase in damage? 33% extra damage infact.

Or are we thinking spider tanking ability > damage output? YARRRR!!


Because a battleship can do that extra 33% with no hassle. Your role is to rep and provide logistic support. All fighters do is lag up fights, and that isnt your role.

Caffeine Junkie
Alpha-Strike
Posted - 2008.01.23 12:57:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Oof. Chimera needs this:

Highs:

2x smartbomb
2x capital shield rep
1x cloak

Mids:

1x capital booster
2x boost amp T2
2x dread guristas invulnerability field
2x sensorbooster with scan res

Lows:

4x true sansha capacitor power relay

Rigs:

3x ccc I

Tanks 5.4k dps perma with alot of cap to spare for remote repping, and has awesome lock speed.


Bring it on, i can take it.


Faction CPR all the way.

My fit is pretty much the same except I have Faction Boost Amp, and an EM hardener instead of one of the sensor boosters. And Heavy Neuts up top.

Diehard Si
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2008.01.23 13:19:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Waxau


Because a battleship can do that extra 33% with no hassle. Your role is to rep and provide logistic support. All fighters do is lag up fights, and that isnt your role.
Someone better tell Goonswarm that then Rolling Eyes...oops this isn't COAD!

Cheers for the reply

Diehard Si
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2008.01.24 12:35:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Diehard Si on 24/01/2008 12:35:58
Originally by: Sokratesz
Oof. Chimera needs this:
Mids:

1x capital booster
2x boost amp T2
2x dread guristas invulnerability field
2x sensorbooster with scan res

Lows:

4x true sansha capacitor power relay

Rigs:

3x ccc I

Tanks 5.4k dps perma with alot of cap to spare for remote repping, and has awesome lock speed.

I have a similar setup to this, but don't get anywhere near the same tank as that going by EFT. My char has pretty much perfect tanking skills apart from Carrier V ( can't see it making THAT much difference).

The best defence efficiency i can get per EFT is about 3800 roughly. I know EFT is not perfect, but for these sort of calculations it's normally spot on.

Can't see how to get near that 5400??

Raekone
Absolut Profit
Posted - 2008.01.24 16:00:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Oof. Chimera needs this:

Highs:

2x smartbomb
2x capital shield rep
1x cloak

Mids:

1x capital booster
2x boost amp T2
2x dread guristas invulnerability field
2x sensorbooster with scan res

Lows:

4x true sansha capacitor power relay

Rigs:

3x ccc I

Tanks 5.4k dps perma with alot of cap to spare for remote repping, and has awesome lock speed.


Bring it on, i can take it.


Ok very nice, but I only get roughly 3.8K permatanked in EFT using max skills and your setup. Sup wit dat? Is that with gang bonuses and implants maybe?


Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.24 16:17:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Sokratesz on 24/01/2008 16:19:20

Carrier 5, standard blue pill boosters. I've got the 5.4k in my head but its been awhile.

*edit* according to EFT its 4.4k tank + 20% from booster = 5.3k


[Chimera]
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay
True Sansha Capacitor Power Relay

Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Capital Shield Booster I
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Speed


Byzan Zwyth
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
Posted - 2008.01.24 18:51:00 - [25]
 

yip, it's a good one


 

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