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Rocky Tee
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:06:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Mephysto
My apologies for a lack of forewarning. This is a new patch system we are trying out. The correct sequence is:

Log in as normal
after bulk data acquisition, the new patch will d/l
there will be NO install dialogue
client needs to restart
log in again.



Ok I am willing to give this a try - but if there is NO install dialogue - How do I know when the patch has downloaded or do I just leave it there for 15mins or summat before i do a restart?

Freeman Fedaykin
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:09:00 - [92]
 

So, CCP Brainiacs, before DT everything was fine... Now - it's terrible. What sould I do whit my win2k? Trying to invent T2 bicycle again? I loosing my patienсe...Evil or Very Mad

Blank Protection
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:10:00 - [93]
 

Edited by: Blank Protection on 17/01/2008 14:12:16
Rolling EyesRolling Eyes

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Verification Failure
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Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files. Please re-install the game client
file D:\EVE\script\compiled.code not found.

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OK
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Well thx you very much now i can download the client again and reinstall the whole stuff.ugh


O yes got this one also.Wink

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Verification Failure
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Your EVE client installation may have modified, damaged or corrupt files. Please re-install the game client
Verification failed: "D:\EVE\script\compiled.code", crc:97b262a2, expected:4d63e677.

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OK
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What a mess.Twisted Evil


Treelox
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:11:00 - [94]
 

2hrs after I started this thread, and still no answer from the Devs as to what was installed, what was changed, why there wasnt an annoucement before this patch.


Some may ask why it is important to know in advance about CCP patches? I like to know when there is a patch coming, so I dont log in and have set my skills accordingly. I always try and stay clear of Eve for 4-8hrs after a patch is deployed for all those bugs that slip through to work their way out.


Seriously this is just further indication that the levels of Customer Service that CCP has always had a problem with are further slipping into chaos. Instead of all the fancy stuff you guys are working on, how about getting back to basics taking care of the customers you already have instead of worrying about the customers you might get.

Gner Dechast
Flashman Services
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:12:00 - [95]
 

Do you have a mole working inside CCP or what? Laughing

I've reached apathy long time ago, so no emo-damage to me...


DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:12:00 - [96]
 

I tried the default directorys in Eve for win2k, plus used the winxp directory, and also used a manual directory (userprofile).... None seem'd to work.
Probably best to just wait on a fix.

Rocky Tee
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:14:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Treelox
2hrs after I started this thread, and still no answer from the Devs as to what was installed, what was changed, why there wasnt an annoucement before this patch.



Have a look at CCP Mephysto's post earlier in this thread

Silicis Raptor
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:17:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Rocky Tee

Have a look at CCP Mephysto's post earlier in this thread


Yes it says they are testing a new autopatch thingy, it doesn't tell us exactly what was done. The autopatcher must of come through at an earlier patch to patch the way it did....

Creepykow
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:17:00 - [99]
 

put it back the way it was and stop meddling please.

Droidster
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:20:00 - [100]
 

Not working. Windows 2000. Log server gives me exception:

2008.01.17 13:59:14:043 NotImplementedError: CryptBinaryToString

(see my other post for complete log entry)

Freeman Fedaykin
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:21:00 - [101]
 

I want old, good working patch system... Nothing more, nothig less... No T2 bicycles...

CrazyCurt
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:22:00 - [102]
 

Not one thing is working. Nothing. I cannot log in. This is a really bad way to start the day and I had such high hopes. Awaiting any fixes that work for Windows2k users. I created folders as stated on every disk and in every folder I could possibly think of adding it to and nothing, it just sita there. Utterly hopeless and depressed now. A very very bad day.

Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:25:00 - [103]
 

CCP, congratulations. You've just moved in my mind from 'reputable' to 'Microsoft'.

Seriously, what the ****? No patch notes, no facility to manually upgrade, no responses pertaining to what was patched, and an inactive UI instead of a progress bar? I'd expect this from Windows Update, but not from the old CCP we used to know.

Anhammerad
Octaphonium
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:25:00 - [104]
 

Edited by: Anhammerad on 17/01/2008 14:28:01
Originally by: voodoo
Originally by: Anhammerad
Does it really matter?

At the end of the day:

- It's their game, they can do whatever they want with it.
- They aren't part of some massive govt conspiracy to act as big brother and spy on you no matter how much you whackos think they are.
- 4mb is hardly a drain on bandwidth no matter how many clients you have (took me less than 15 seconds to download, apply and log in Rolling Eyes).
- It is not your right to get patch notes. It is merely a perk as a customer.

Stop whining and be thankful that CCP can fix minor bugs in this way.



pull your nose outta there arse! with the boot.ini problem i think the least they could do is tell us wth they fixed.
/me hates a dam suck up


I'm not a suckup, I just don't see the reason why the forum community needs to throw their arms up in the air and scream that the sky is falling because CCP doesn't put up a set of patch notes.

Sure I've had problems with some CCP patches in the past but I'm sure you understand just as well as I do how expensive and completely impractical it would be to have thousands of test rigs in order to test out every single system configuration for a standard patch.

Granted the boot.ini thing was a crappy experience for all those affected, however they've made their major mistake and I seriously doubt it will happen again (feel free to pull this up as a quote if it does, makes no difference to me). I'm guessing you're one of these people who keeps a list of all the things CCP have done wrong over the years and rolls out random examples everything something else happens.

Stop living in the past, you'll feel better for it.

[EDIT] To the challenge regarding the need for a skill switch. It has happened to me, and many a time I can assure you. Yes it is iritating however I think the following 'meh it's only a game I'll go do something else for a few hours. Surely you're entire life doesn't revolve around EVE? I feel sorry for you if it does.

Creepykow
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:28:00 - [105]
 

Edited by: Creepykow on 17/01/2008 14:28:31
Originally by: Anhammerad
Originally by: voodoo
Originally by: Anhammerad
Does it really matter?

At the end of the day:

- It's their game, they can do whatever they want with it.
- They aren't part of some massive govt conspiracy to act as big brother and spy on you no matter how much you whackos think they are.
- 4mb is hardly a drain on bandwidth no matter how many clients you have (took me less than 15 seconds to download, apply and log in Rolling Eyes).
- It is not your right to get patch notes. It is merely a perk as a customer.

Stop whining and be thankful that CCP can fix minor bugs in this way.






pull your nose outta there arse! with the boot.ini problem i think the least they could do is tell us wth they fixed.
/me hates a dam suck up


I'm not a suckup, I just don't see the reason why the forum community needs to throw their arms up in the air and scream that the sky is falling because CCP doesn't put up a set of patch notes.

Sure I've had problems with some CCP patches in the past but I'm sure you understand just as well as I do how expensive and completely impractical it would be to have thousands of test rigs in order to test out every single system configuration for a standard patch.

Granted the boot.ini thing was a crappy experience for all those affected, however they've made their major mistake and I seriously doubt it will happen again (feel free to pull this up as a quote if it does, makes no difference to me). I'm guessing you're one of these people who keeps a list of all the things CCP have done wrong over the years and rolls out random examples everything something else happens.

Stop living in the past, you'll feel better for it.


I have three accounts and I am frozen out of the game so I'll complain all I like and I won't ask for either your permission or approval; got it?

Arachidamia
Minmatar
Matari People's Front
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:33:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Arachidamia on 17/01/2008 14:33:04
Strike up another person on win2k, unable to get it working at all.

On the plus side, the linux client worked for me after trinity... right up until I undocked. And now that crashes within a second of loading. So no eve at all for me it seems.

Ix Forres
Caldari
Righteous Chaps
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:33:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Anhammerad
I'm not a suckup, I just don't see the reason why the forum community needs to throw their arms up in the air and scream that the sky is falling because CCP doesn't put up a set of patch notes.

Sure I've had problems with some CCP patches in the past but I'm sure you understand just as well as I do how expensive and completely impractical it would be to have thousands of test rigs in order to test out every single system configuration for a standard patch.

Granted the boot.ini thing was a crappy experience for all those affected, however they've made their major mistake and I seriously doubt it will happen again (feel free to pull this up as a quote if it does, makes no difference to me). I'm guessing you're one of these people who keeps a list of all the things CCP have done wrong over the years and rolls out random examples everything something else happens.

Stop living in the past, you'll feel better for it.

You would do better to stop living in the past yourself.

It's not expensive, impractical or odd to have a whole pile of common configurations- there are products out there to automate testing on hundreds of combinations of systems (VMware Lab Manager for instance) using virtualisation to avoid needing hundreds of actual machines.

Patch notes are vital for customers because it alerts us to potential problems, game balance changes, and so on, ahead of time. This isn't about boot.ini- that was an honest mistake and patchnotes wouldn't (and didn't) help. This is about intentional changes. If CCP had put patchnotes out saying 'OK, this is the last set of patchnotes you're getting', there would be uproar. People can discuss changes before they happen- this thread could have happened before CCP rolled anything out, and then they could have done it with changes taking the community stance into account (IE: with patchnotes, a progress bar, etc).

Polly Math
E X O D U S
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:36:00 - [108]
 

loaded it up with a filemon, problem seems to be that the game looks for a different folder on win2k than the one stated in the manual fix. it looks for 6d870f9991fec176dd7d4c8723fcee66 instead of the one stated. however fixing that didnt work either, it finds the dir/file,reads then closes it and thats about it.

the amount of buffer overflows is also quiet shocking, might be a win api thing tho.

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:36:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Anhammerad
Does it really matter?

At the end of the day:

- It's their game, they can do whatever they want with it.
- They aren't part of some massive govt conspiracy to act as big brother and spy on you no matter how much you whackos think they are.
- 4mb is hardly a drain on bandwidth no matter how many clients you have (took me less than 15 seconds to download, apply and log in Rolling Eyes).
- It is not your right to get patch notes. It is merely a perk as a customer.

Stop whining and be thankful that CCP can fix minor bugs in this way.
And the day someone else has found a way to inject their own patch with keyloggers and such, everyone will come screaming. This is why CCP needs to announce changes, to make the public aware of changes that are about to happen.

sugark
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:39:00 - [110]
 

win 2k here and not getting it to work either

Droidster
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:42:00 - [111]
 

BTW, I am now losing my training because I was not warned that they would be screwing with the system.

Shin Chogan
Gallente
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:43:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Shin Chogan on 17/01/2008 14:45:15
Originally by: Anhammerad


- It is not your right to get patch notes. It is merely a perk as a customer.




Sorry but NO !!!!!

Can you think of something else that installs software on your computer without your explicit consent ... oh yes that would be a Virus/Trogan wouldn't it ... I'd go as far to say that people have been put in jail for doing just what CCP have just done.

And no I've not given implicit consent by starting the existing client or trying to log on ... I'm sorry I expect a OK/Cancel button before the patch downloads/installs with an explanation that if I don't download patch I wont be able to play the game !

I'll be seriously reconsidering my subscription if this continues.

Freeman Fedaykin
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:44:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: Freeman Fedaykin on 17/01/2008 14:45:16
Droidster, Me too... Who will compensate it?

Adrianna Ravenwood
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:45:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Polly Math
Originally by: Vordakr
Running Win2k from D:

Copied "Compled Code" into the directory specified (on the d: drive).

Logged in.

Finishes Bulk Data.

Just sits there ... like it was doing the first hour and a half.

I had to create the CCP & EVE parts of the

D:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\CCP\EVE\dd7d3d04d133729bde20677ec76f5d63

directory as they did not exist before.

Just for the record ... I already tried rebooting ... but it came up fine so it's not another boot ini problem.



the most likely path would be D:\Documents and Settings\<your user>\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\ as that already existed. however it did not work for me. Tried creating the given xp path too, aint working either.


Tried that too and any other variation I could come up with but nothing mattered.

I also have a system where it is installed on the C: drive and that did not work.

Guess that is a Windows XP fix only.



DeODokktor
Caldari
Dark Templars
The Fonz Presidium
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:46:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Shin Chogan
Originally by: Anhammerad


- It is not your right to get patch notes. It is merely a perk as a customer.




Sorry but NO !!!!!

Can you think of something else that installs software on your computer without your explicit consent ...


If your using something newer than win2k then windows
:) ....

That aside, I dont care what's in the patch as long as I am told there is a patch..
Imagine the boot.ini problem, if that would have just "happen'd" without me knowing that the client did it then it could have been horrible trying to find the cause.

Dr Speed
Minmatar
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:48:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Ginuad Amarasen
Edited by: Ginuad Amarasen on 17/01/2008 13:46:04
Be that as it may, Anhammerad, the lack of communication is still greatly frustrating.

My first thought when the patch installed was "Hmm, what's been nerfed?". My second was "Huh? Where's the patch notes?". My third being "Hmm, I wonder if anyone's tried rebooting yet".

Given that CCP's prior record with patching leaves even newbies like myself suspicious suggests that keeping an open line of communication with the user base would be a really good idea. Unfortunately, we aren't seeing any of that and when a company goes silent there's usually good reason to suspect a charlie foxtrot has just taken place.

I have to agree, with 30+ years working in the computer sciences developing and deploying software/updates to existing systems (on systems much larger than this), I'd have to assume on of two things - 1) the individuals responsible aren't qualified for the job or 2) the company isn't understanding/providing a realistic window for updates.

Breaking procedural protocol and not providing any advance notice of a patch is evidence of a very serious customer service/communication problem. Most serious companies would be implementing new procedures and replacing employees at the first sign of any of these kinds of problems. I assume that at CCP, doing what you do well must not be a very high priority. This is sad because I you have a good thing going, maybe how you got here worked better than what's happening now...

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2008.01.17 14:52:00 - [117]
 

Unfortunately there was a miscommunication here at CCP and we failed to announce this patch to everyone. It was not meant to be a "stealth patch" at all. This is entirely our fault and we apologize for the inconvenience and will make sure we communicate better in the future.

Please continue the discussion on todays patch in this thread.

Blank Protection
State War Academy
Posted - 2008.01.17 14:53:00 - [118]
 

WIN2K standard directory location is the same as the XP location.Wink

Btw* I did a complete fresh reinstall of Eve, standard install not custom and it fixed nothing.

There is already a "compiled.code" file in the scripts folder but its a different volume.ugh
Did everything above also but finally it is so mess up i have to reinstall the complete client again.Mad


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