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Vrix Xin
Posted - 2008.06.18 01:13:00 - [121]
 

Edited by: Vrix Xin on 18/06/2008 03:18:24

Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
Testing of the Mavens 2.0 client has begun, and I expect a full deployment by the end of the weekend uf not sooner. Especially given yesterday's incident, we're taking special care to make sure all logging is in place, the new account system has an adequate level of security, and that we have backup systems for accounts and the server itself in case of a power failure. This is especially important since Ring game account information needs to be as up to date as possible, since chips = ISK and it's changing in real-time.

The system with tournament tables will stay the same as it is now -- bankers will still run them and have a start code to begin them. We are also working on an interface for our staff to get table results and deal with other goodies so that we have more thorough administration abilities 23/7, as well as enough logging accuracy to track down any previous problem/scam that has happened in the past. We're also evaluating how best to securely handle the money for the Ring games, since deposits could amount of to a sizable chunk.

EOH has come a long ways from the day where running 5 games in an evening was a feat, and a 105m game was a weekly event in scarcity. There used to be no banker coordination, lots of coverage gaps existed, and no rules existed for when technical difficulties or other issues occur. Sadly, we always find more situations to deal with. As usual we're taking this opportunity to improve the service even more, and I hope that it is obvious at how much work gets put into making this a secure, fun, and reasonable service for those involved, despite hiccups along that path.

I am really looking forward to this next step in the coming days.



I can't wait for the new client personally, we won't have to deal with these bull**** name spoofer scammers who have been plaguing EOH the last 24 hours.

This new client will go a long way in getting rid of scams hopefully :)

I am curious as to who is behind this though.

Tyndmyr
Posted - 2008.06.19 05:36:00 - [122]
 

After having read the now-locked Gila thread, and having looked through the logs, I feel compelled to stop playing. Frankly, if the attention to security is *that bad*, it's essentially completely unsecured. Will my few isk really matter to EOH as a whole? Im sure it wont...but the bulk of the evidence points torward Gila being scammed, and EOH refusing to reimburse it, and whats more, handling the whole situation quite poorly. Why bother paying a rake if theres no security involved?

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.19 05:55:00 - [123]
 

Mavens 2.0 has been deployed. Thanks to everyone who made this possible.

Please read ALL MOTD information and both IGB pages, because a lot has changed. A quick summary of SOME of the changes would be:

- EOH GAMES is a secure channel where only bankers can talk. Games for both EOH and LSH will be spammed here, thus preventing impersonator bankers from ever bothering us again.
- the new client is web-based, and has passwords on your accounts for security
- there is no email validation for those of you paranoid about personal information
- payouts have changed to be flatter, with up to 10 people per table we now pay 50%/30%/20% on full tables.
- updates to the banker list

Also, Ring Games will be deployed this weekend once we have the details for secure ISK storage and convenient deposit.withdrawl worked out. Please ask if you get stuck anywhere, and let us know what you think about the new setup. Thanks folks.

gilca
Caldari
GOP KOHTOPA
Wreck Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.19 11:31:00 - [124]
 

Edited by: gilca on 24/06/2008 01:44:35
n/a

TomHorn
Caldari
Horn and Brothers
Posted - 2008.06.19 14:00:00 - [125]
 

Edited by: TomHorn on 21/06/2008 00:32:15
Edited by: TomHorn on 19/06/2008 15:19:36
Eve Online Holdem are now using an even better and more improved client ,here is how to get set up. I believe cash games are also coming very soon. All the tournament style games which were being played on the old client are now set up and being played on the new client.

First of join chat channel " eve online hold'em " if you get stuck people will help you set up there

All the info is in the MOTD.

i put eve the game into windows press escape to change this so you can play game and poker

ii open your web browser and copy and paste this link http://poker.eveonlineholdem.com
or this link http://66.135.39.23:8087/?SitePassword=moonjump

iii click on the account tab and create an account use your eve character name. Very easy and straight forward to do

iv games are advertised in the chat channel "EOH Games"

v pay the banker the buyin and register on the table to play

vi game over banker pays out the winnings

if your new to eve maybe chat channel " low stakes hold'em "games from 1.1mill isk to 11mill isk is better for you, this is the sister channel to " eve online hold'em " games from 17millisk to 1bill+

Tyndmyr
Posted - 2008.06.19 22:38:00 - [126]
 

Does the new client insure that the banker will know that the individual who sent the isk is the same as the individual who is playing?

Zhecao Vai
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.19 23:21:00 - [127]
 

Edited by: Zhecao Vai on 19/06/2008 23:22:14
Originally by: Tyndmyr
Does the new client insure that the banker will know that the individual who sent the isk is the same as the individual who is playing?


Yes, unless someone can guess your password on the poker client.

EDIT: Actually, not completely. Someone could impersonate you, but they couldn't stop you from logging in on your real account, and if you were on EVE, it would be easy for you to make it clear which one was the "real you."

Galacio Prognatus
Gallente
Posted - 2008.06.19 23:57:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Zhecao Vai

EDIT: Actually, not completely. Someone could impersonate you, but they couldn't stop you from logging in on your real account, and if you were on EVE, it would be easy for you to make it clear which one was the "real you."


So the gilca fraud is still possible? But I take it that now the owners will have the evidence to not f**k ppl over?

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.20 00:47:00 - [129]
 

Originally by: Galacio Prognatus
So the gilca fraud is still possible? But I take it that now the owners will have the evidence to not f**k ppl over?


It's not possible now, no, due to everyone having passworded accounts as well as thorough logging to file, which is also backed up regularly on a remote site. The issue with Mavens 1.0 was that the relevant information was there, but only for the duration that someone was logged into the client. It had no logging to file options, and we really never had few scenarios where it would have been helpful. Unfortunately this last situation was just days before the current, better setup was brought into play.

gilca
Caldari
GOP KOHTOPA
Wreck Alliance
Posted - 2008.06.20 21:12:00 - [130]
 

Edited by: gilca on 24/06/2008 01:45:22
I have played on the new poker mavens client, and I have no complaints at all. It's secure, it runs faster than the old one, and I have not seen any lagged out tables. It fixes the possible scam with duped names, and they recently fixed the problem with fake bankers. GJ selene

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.24 02:19:00 - [131]
 

I just wanted to apologize for the delay on Ring games. We've been very busy (I've been going insane the last few days trying to keep everything going smoothly with all of the changes), but we're still making tweaks and adjustments to the Banker/Admin interface to Mavens to log what Ring game data isn't logged by Mavens itself, and to provide useful tools to the Banking staff.

The creator of Poker Mavens has also been a great help to us, as I have been talking to him daily to work on ideas for new features, bug fixes, and useful tools. He's a great guy and I'm really glad we've gone with his software.

Anyway, expect an update soon(tm) on Ring games. And as for after that ... who knows =)

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.26 16:21:00 - [132]
 

We're getting ever closer to Ring Game deployment, sorry again for the delay folks. Maybe this weekend? =)

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.27 01:26:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Selene D'Celeste
We're getting ever closer to Ring Game deployment, sorry again for the delay folks. Maybe this weekend? =)


Okay, so I lied. Twizzle went ahead and did a soft-launch today (meaning no documentation or bankers set up yet, just to get some people started). Well, it's been about 4-5 hours and I finally have up some information on our pages about how Ring Games work, and in this small window we already have close to 6 Billion ISK deposited for ring-game use, with a nearly-full table running alongside our normal EOH and LSH Tournament games.

For those of you that don't know, Ring Games are tables where you can join and leave on a per-hand basis, and where the chips are equivalent to ISK, so you win and lose money every hand. We have been devising a nice system for the bankers and myself to track deposits outside of what Mavens does (extra logging can't hurt, also secure interfaces are sexy -- thanks Twizzle), and I am in the process of getting our current bankers set up to handle ring game money. Since there is no rake-per-hand feature in Mavens 2.0 (yet), we are going to run Ring Game deposits and withdrawals similar to our Tournaments, in that there is a 5% rake on both deposits and withdrawlas, allowing us to distribute fees to both winners and losers, and to keep a similar payout structure for the banking staff.

So, exciting times. With that said, see you all on the tables =)

uoY delliK
Detached Regiment
Posted - 2008.06.27 05:08:00 - [134]
 

Cause afterall, isk is everything.

TomHorn
Caldari
Horn and Brothers
Posted - 2008.06.27 05:54:00 - [135]
 

Heres one of the hands that went down tonight on the cash games. Max buyin at this table is 200mill isk.

All 10 seats were taken seat1 Night Hauler 128mill isk, seat2 Shadoo 243mill isk, seat3 kreshvladir 879mill isk, seat4 MireiJun 337mill isk, seat5 CracyOnen 631mill isk,seat6 Siren Sylvanis 177mill isk, seat8 Mildeliane 106mill isk, seat9 Maleate 98mill isk, seat10 Shamis 242mill isk


sb is 1bill and the bb is 2bill Cracy onen calls for 2mill under the gun with 99, Siren raises to 7mill with q5s , Niraia calls for 7mill with 1010 ,mildeliane folds, Maleaite raises to 98mill allin with QQ ,Shamis calls for 98mill K6s, NightHaunter calls for 98mill with AJ, Shadoo folds, Kresh Vladir folds, MireiJun folds, CracyOnen calls for 96mill with the 99, Siren calls for 91mill with the q5, Nirai re raises with the 1010 to 446mill allin, Shamis calls for 144mill allin with the k6s, NightHaunter calls 30mill allin with aj, cracy onen calls for 348mill allin with the 99, siren calls for 79mill allin with q5suited.

Total pot now on the hand was 1.5bill all these players went allin with there hands eventually before the flop. The flop came 8s 10d 4s 7d 4c with Niraia winning the massive pot with a fullhouse. She hit a 10 on the flop to give her trips with another 4 coming on the river to give her a fullhoushouse beating:

Pocket QQs ,Pocket 99s , AJ, K6suited, Q5suited for 1.5bill.

Mildeliane
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.27 09:13:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: TomHorn
Heres one of the hands that went down tonight on the cash games. Max buyin at this table is 200mill isk.

All 10 seats were taken seat1 Night Hauler 128mill isk, seat2 Shadoo 243mill isk, seat3 kreshvladir 879mill isk, seat4 MireiJun 337mill isk, seat5 CracyOnen 631mill isk,seat6 Siren Sylvanis 177mill isk, seat8 Mildeliane 106mill isk, seat9 Maleate 98mill isk, seat10 Shamis 242mill isk


sb is 1bill and the bb is 2bill Cracy onen calls for 2mill under the gun with 99, Siren raises to 7mill with q5s , Niraia calls for 7mill with 1010 ,mildeliane folds, Maleaite raises to 98mill allin with QQ ,Shamis calls for 98mill K6s, NightHaunter calls for 98mill with AJ, Shadoo folds, Kresh Vladir folds, MireiJun folds, CracyOnen calls for 96mill with the 99, Siren calls for 91mill with the q5, Nirai re raises with the 1010 to 446mill allin, Shamis calls for 144mill allin with the k6s, NightHaunter calls 30mill allin with aj, cracy onen calls for 348mill allin with the 99, siren calls for 79mill allin with q5suited.

Total pot now on the hand was 1.5bill all these players went allin with there hands eventually before the flop. The flop came 8s 10d 4s 7d 4c with Niraia winning the massive pot with a fullhouse. She hit a 10 on the flop to give her trips with another 4 coming on the river to give her a fullhoushouse beating:

Pocket QQs ,Pocket 99s , AJ, K6suited, Q5suited for 1.5bill.


I watched this hand.

I spent roughly 150m getting situated initially on the ring tables - and after a few hours I managed to make about 1.3b. Good ****.

Little JitaGirl
Posted - 2008.06.28 02:33:00 - [137]
 

I know it'll sound like sour grapes, but the number of bad beats put on by BANKERS on other players is quite disturbing. There would be constant all-ins, similar to what was described above, where the clearly dominated hand would pull out something on the turn/river. It seems to happen far more often than chance would allow.

Lightningshade
Caldari
Spiritus Draconis
Posted - 2008.06.28 11:42:00 - [138]
 

whats the OOG site for this? im @ work and fancy playing (im already registered with chips ready) and forgot the dang site URL.

Zhecao Vai
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.28 11:55:00 - [139]
 

Edited by: Zhecao Vai on 28/06/2008 11:54:48
Originally by: Lightningshade
whats the OOG site for this? im @ work and fancy playing (im already registered with chips ready) and forgot the dang site URL.


http://66.135.39.23:8087/?SitePassword=moonjump

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.29 02:59:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: uoY delliK
Cause afterall, isk is everything.


You don't see me trolling your thread. Harassing my tables, channels, and customers for 6 months is enough, do you really need to bring it to the forums (again) too?

Originally by: Little JitaGirl
I know it'll sound like sour grapes, but the number of bad beats put on by BANKERS on other players is quite disturbing. There would be constant all-ins, similar to what was described above, where the clearly dominated hand would pull out something on the turn/river. It seems to happen far more often than chance would allow.


This is a common complaint against bankers, high rollers, corp mates who play the service, etc. Poker is poker, there are enough low-odd card combinations that insanity becomes somewhat normal. Online poker games also go much faster than in real life. It's a common reaction to many people who play on any online poker site. I've seen it here, elsewhere on EVE, on the popular internet sites, everywhere. It's just human perspective trying to understand the flow of a game that is happening in a different environment than they are probably used to.

Originally by: Zhecao Vai
Stuff


Thanks Zhecao, but the more reliable method to reaching the server would be via http://poker.eveonlineholdem.com/

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.29 03:05:00 - [141]
 

And on another note, I would like to thank everyone for the busiest week we have ever had here at EOH, which has now been under my ownership for six months. The Ring game launch appears to be quite popular for certain players, with at least one table nearly full or full around the clock. We've been maintaining around 20 Billion ISK in Ring Game deposits so far, which is better than I expected for our first few days of launch. I also want to say that I only cite numbers because they indicate how busy we are and being busy means a lot of people are playing and enjoying the service, which is what I want.

We've also continued to work with the man who wrote our software, who is also excited to use us as a stress test when we have upwards of 50 connections to the server during the early evening. I do want to apologize for some connection issues we have had, as we are testing a beta version of the client whose goal is to track down the memory issues that are the cause of both lag and the freeze-ups that we experienced around 20-24 hours of uptime during the first few days of operation.

Thanks again everyone for your continued support. Please remember to leave feedback or ideas in this thread, to me via evemail, or to any of the bankers.

Covenn
Shut Up And Play
Posted - 2008.06.29 17:30:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Little JitaGirl
I know it'll sound like sour grapes, but the number of bad beats put on by BANKERS on other players is quite disturbing. There would be constant all-ins, similar to what was described above, where the clearly dominated hand would pull out something on the turn/river. It seems to happen far more often than chance would allow.


Yeah, its the same thing at every poker room. Go play a few hundred/thousand hands at poker stars, full tilt, party poker and you'll see the same kind of crap. It sucks to have your dominant hands beat, but it is going to happen. The only thing you can do is put your chips in with the best hand every time, and statistically your going to come out ahead over the long run.

Mildeliane
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.06.29 18:03:00 - [143]
 

Originally by: Covenn
Originally by: Little JitaGirl
I know it'll sound like sour grapes, but the number of bad beats put on by BANKERS on other players is quite disturbing. There would be constant all-ins, similar to what was described above, where the clearly dominated hand would pull out something on the turn/river. It seems to happen far more often than chance would allow.


Yeah, its the same thing at every poker room. Go play a few hundred/thousand hands at poker stars, full tilt, party poker and you'll see the same kind of crap. It sucks to have your dominant hands beat, but it is going to happen. The only thing you can do is put your chips in with the best hand every time, and statistically your going to come out ahead over the long run.


Just to add a little to this, considering I'm a banker - I sunk in about 300m, got up to about 13,500 chips. Now I've lost all my chips and lost another 300m. So...Yeah. I'm either incredibly unlucky or the other bankers are hiding tricks from me.

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.06.30 03:22:00 - [144]
 

Just a quick note on recent technical issues, we are continuing to work with the owner of Mavens to fix the lag and disconnect issues. Unfortuately this testing phase simply shifts the problem around. Before there were random disconnects, and today there were a couple of crashes. Please let me know if there was a game or anything not handled appropriately, and I will look into getting everything fixed up.

On a positive note, it sounds like there will be a permanent fix to the issue of bad player connections causing lag and/or freezing in the server within the next few days. Please bear with us as we continue to work towards an even more stable and sexy setup =)

Siren Sylvanis
Gallente
The Aduro Protocol
Posted - 2008.06.30 03:40:00 - [145]
 

The secret trick is a lot of the bankers are also really good at poker =D

<- 50m into 800m in 2 days ^_^

Selene D'Celeste
Caldari
The D'Celeste Trading Company
ISK Six
Posted - 2008.07.02 02:14:00 - [146]
 

It looks like us working with the creator of Mavens is paying off. He's figured out the cause of the connection issues, and the current beta that we're using and the next public release should get rid of all the weird disconnection and lag/freezing problems. We'll still be watching for server-wide issues of course, and let us know if there are any new issues. Thanks folks =)

ori16
Taishi Combine
Saints Amongst Sinners
Posted - 2008.07.04 22:31:00 - [147]
 

these guys are what i would call a True faimly AKA my spelling sucks too so.i. but they get u your chips fast in the ring games they uphold all the buy in games there great hands down some of the best and there trust worthy too .

Zanphear
Amarr
The Booby Trap
Posted - 2008.07.06 03:08:00 - [148]
 

Hey,

Ive been playing at EOH for the past weeks, and I look at my self as one of the high rollers on there, Im always up for a high stakes games and we need more high rollers !

there are plenty of fishes, Sorry guys :P

So far in poker earnings I've made: 15 billion isk :)

Ive done challenges through my corp and made 1 billion isk via poker playing in 2 days from a 79 million capital !

Great bankers, great community and overall great poker ;)

Thank you Selene and EOH !

Nicolaa
Posted - 2008.07.06 05:16:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Zanphear
Hey,

Ive been playing at EOH for the past weeks, and I look at my self as one of the high rollers on there, Im always up for a high stakes games and we need more high rollers !

there are plenty of fishes, Sorry guys :P

So far in poker earnings I've made: 15 billion isk :)

Ive done challenges through my corp and made 1 billion isk via poker playing in 2 days from a 79 million capital !

Great bankers, great community and overall great poker ;)

Thank you Selene and EOH !


If you want people to come play against you, don't refer to your opponents as "fish" and then advertise that your just going to take their money if they do come play. Just a thought.

Your post is more of a deterrent, then a encouragement to come play.


Zanphear
Amarr
The Booby Trap
Posted - 2008.07.06 09:15:00 - [150]
 

Im saying there are plenty of fishes that play there, its an advertising point rather then something bad, you can even see alot of professional poker websites and casinos advertise on that fact.

A "Fish" is a common poker term, its used about either bad poker players that you can easly extract money from, or someone learning the game that hasnt quite grasped it yet and is thusly giving away money.

If your any good, please come and play ;)

But if your a fish, which you probly are looking at that you took such offence to this, dont, I mean poker isnt for everyone.

So if you take offence to this and are crap at poker, your probly a fish, you can come prove me wrong any time :P


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