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ezraniel
Caldari
0ccam's Razor
The Volition Cult
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:27:00 - [181]
 

Well Granger,

if your a expert in high availability networking and cluster computing i'm quite sure CCP will be glad to hire you...

Specially if your well versed in oracle databases and unix operating systems/scripting..

if not, i wouldn't criticise CCP really

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:31:00 - [182]
 

Originally by: ezraniel

Specially if your well versed in oracle databases and unix operating systems/scripting..


Which would be absolutely no help at all since Eve runs on MSSQL and Windows.

Uuve Savisaalo
Gallente
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:33:00 - [183]
 

Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 07/01/2008 01:38:13

Originally by: Granger
I wish that instead of introducing new things, that they would fix it so we can have these major fleet engagements...



Granger, i would like to clarify something under the circumstances that seems to be often forgotten by the general forum-posting community: adding features/graphics upgrades/ambulation/feeding wild Icelandic squirrels is not mutually-exclusive when paired with improving server stability.

Per Hilmar's announcement at the fanfest, a whole new cluster is being built to house TQ, which along with a fundamental rework of how the game treats similar scenarios from the back end as well as potential revisions to POS warfare at large, are to solve the problem you're speaking of. The people responsible for those changes are largely independent from, say, the design cell or programmers handling features of the kind, the artists, or people working on ambulation.

Once again, ccp knows about all of this being a problem but at the moment it simply cannot be helped, and something like diverting artists from what they're doing will do absolutely f-all to change it. We just have to tough it out a little longer to see how the game will turn out once the changes are in place, i just wonder whether or not bob lasts long enough to see the day we can exclude lag from major combat factors.

Atama Cardel
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:43:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: Lord WarATron
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/01/2008 12:01:58
Edited by: Lord WarATron on 06/01/2008 12:00:39
Originally by: Vile rat

So those three ships that weren't even in the target system managed to lag out 49-? I know eve has some server troubles from time to time but I've got a hunch they can handle THAT.

Yep did a doublecheck those three are the only rookie/shuttle kills on the board during that time period.


There are ships killed on gate trying to get into 49-u. Add in the several dozen more inside 49. I almost thought this was kisigo....

In total - roughly 60+ noob/shuttle. Add in crappy frigs that cannot combat within smartbomb range and you are looking at several hundred useless people in system.

If those ships were dreads............


I only see 4 rookie ships and 2 shuttles on your killboard, I think you need to work on your math there :psyduck:

Christine McGyver
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:45:00 - [185]
 

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Tayler Derden
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:47:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: Christine McGyver
Originally by: Ace Hall
Originally by: Omeega

Can't say the nodecrash was provoqued, it's impossible to precisely create a nodecrash.




And God knows you have tried everything to find out if it IS possible.




JV1V-, one year ago....

and you must be ex-lv alt right?Very Happy

kanojo1969
Minmatar
Blue Midget Corporation
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:51:00 - [187]
 

Edited by: kanojo1969 on 07/01/2008 01:52:14
Remember when streaming video on the web meant a 125x125 pixel postage stamp running 5 frames per second? It was only about 4 years ago.

Moore's Law and the exponential rate of change in technology tells us that this whole issue is not far off being irrelevant. From CCP's point of view, it just better business to invest in attracting new players and ride out the whiners until the technology can support this fairly easily. We are almost there already. The next server cluster will probably NOT fix the problem completely, but the one after that certainly will.

This means that by the time I have enough SP to fly decent ships with decent fittings into battle, the problem will most likely have evaporated.

Christine McGyver
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:52:00 - [188]
 

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Hrin
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2008.01.07 01:56:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Homo Erectus
Originally by: Garregus
Originally by: Hrin
So Goons lose some support ships, don't kill a titan, don't lose any caps, but do kill some BoB carriers that logonski the next day.

This is regarded as a victory for BoB.




part of being better than everyone else is also being better at losing things, obviously.


Or better at reading at least. I'm not sure but I think the thread even has a title regarding it's nature. The word you're looking for is titan. You know, the titan incident yesterday that invoked the tears of many thousand goons? Yea, that one.

Carriers die every day, and the forumgoons have lost more than their fair share.

Ono, a logic bomb right on your forehead. Srry.


you didn't want those carriers, regions, stations, ships, allies, reputation anyway. You just want titans.

Good priorities.

Homo Erectus
Amarr
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.01.07 02:54:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Hrin
Originally by: Homo Erectus
Originally by: Garregus
Originally by: Hrin
So Goons lose some support ships, don't kill a titan, don't lose any caps, but do kill some BoB carriers that logonski the next day.

This is regarded as a victory for BoB.




part of being better than everyone else is also being better at losing things, obviously.


Or better at reading at least. I'm not sure but I think the thread even has a title regarding it's nature. The word you're looking for is titan. You know, the titan incident yesterday that invoked the tears of many thousand goons? Yea, that one.

Carriers die every day, and the forumgoons have lost more than their fair share.

Ono, a logic bomb right on your forehead. Srry.


you didn't want those carriers, regions, stations, ships, allies, reputation anyway. You just want titans.

Good priorities.


Maybe you're new to eve and the series of tubes. It's ok, I forgive you.

Carriers: ships meant to be used in combat. Yes, we like those. We use them in combat. They die and they kill you. Yours die and yours kill people. Good one.

Regions: territory. BoB was made to pvp. Lifting our leg and lubricating on your face by taking regions from you and others has given us what we desire and have always desired, pvp. We have regions and we have had regions. We have given, shared,and lost, and taken them. You have done the same.

Stations: see above. Back in the day I used to run around taking enemy stations by myself simply to provoke a response. Did I care when a mouthy 5th grader and his 17 friends came just for me and I left? (No.) But when they sent 1 or 2 mouthy newbies, I would enjoy dismantling them.

Ships: are carriers not ships? See above, bookend.

Allies: people to fight other people with. conversely, ex people to fight people with who we now fight. What I just said may be well above your intellect, but if you understood me explaining BoB's nature concerning pvp, please try harder to insinuate a loss.

Reputation: lol. yea, we've always cared about that.

Please tell me you are not the best of the Goon's elementary all star forum warriors. Please dear God.

Moonlight Express
Amarr
Moonlight Express Inc.
Posted - 2008.01.07 03:02:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: WrathOfOprah

So BoB goes from controlling our game to considering it a win when we **** and moan about almost killing one of their Titans.


I think you missed the point. BoB wins by killing hundreds of you while not losing what you wanted to kill. Your moaning is just a bonus. Wink

Elizabeth Fallbrook
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.01.07 03:05:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Homo Erectus
Please tell me you are not the best of the Goon's elementary all star forum warriors. Please dear God.


nah, that would be me. we're better at this game than you people are for reasons you will never understand.

Homo Erectus
Amarr
Evolution
The Initiative.
Posted - 2008.01.07 03:12:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Elizabeth Fallbrook
Originally by: Homo Erectus
Please tell me you are not the best of the Goon's elementary all star forum warriors. Please dear God.


nah, that would be me. we're better at this game than you people are for reasons you will never understand.


you're going to have to do better than that. you have 10,000 wet behind the ears forum troopers who log into eve as a secondary timesink. i understand this very well, and it doesn't make you anything except good fodder.

more, please.

CCP Mitnal


Minmatar
C C P
Posted - 2008.01.07 03:12:00 - [194]
 

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