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SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.12.26 08:48:00 - [1]
 

Just that.

FuQue
Posted - 2007.12.26 08:51:00 - [2]
 

That kind of goes against the whole "multiplayer" aspect of a MMORPG doesn't it?
One can't take away gameplay from potential new players, especially email.

Radix Salvilines
legion industries ltd
AAA Citizens
Posted - 2007.12.26 09:14:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Radix Salvilines on 26/12/2007 09:23:02
block evemails for the first day? give a new players a list to whom they may send eve-mails (like only those that have help channel open... and those peoples that have the new player in in buddy list - with an info in their evemails that they can only send evemails to to those)? block the ability to make links in evemails and public channels?

Not a big disadvantage but will block the usefullness of trial accounts for those bad isk selling bastard :)

p.s. the ability for normal players to set an option not to recieve eve-mail from trial accounts nor see their messages in public channels... or at least those with links (autoblock trial users)... that might be handy :D Maby the ability fo normal players to flag the trial account guy if they post something bad (like 3 bad things = account locked and scheduled for investigation)... of course punishable if normal players overuse it for fun :)

Riethe
Posted - 2007.12.26 09:16:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Riethe on 26/12/2007 09:17:05
Eve is a game that generally attracts (and keeps) more of the people that are introduced to it by friends that are already decently established.

The more you take away the abilities for people to bring in new blood and communicate with them, and dumb down the game on trial accounts, the less likely they stick around.

Overall, I think there has to be a better way to handle this kind of thing.

Don't ask me what it is, though. I just feel that cutting off these sort of things is overall more harmful than it is beneficial.

northwesten
Amarr
Trinity Corporate Services
Terran United Federation
Posted - 2007.12.26 09:19:00 - [5]
 

Know the saying speak when you spoken to? I think it should be that! (Trail cant send emails unless a real player sent them an email first)

Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
Posted - 2007.12.26 12:32:00 - [6]
 

How bout filter words like:
ISK
GTC
Sell
Special Offer 12345
b1gger
cash

Don't just remove them from the mail, but give a response to the sender: "Sorry, your EVEmail cannot be processed because it contains forbidden content."

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.12.26 12:41:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: SoftRevolution on 26/12/2007 12:43:43
Originally by: Radix Salvilines
Edited by: Radix Salvilines on 26/12/2007 09:23:02
block evemails for the first day? give a new players a list to whom they may send eve-mails (like only those that have help channel open... and those peoples that have the new player in in buddy list - with an info in their evemails that they can only send evemails to to those)? block the ability to make links in evemails and public channels?

Not a big disadvantage but will block the usefullness of trial accounts for those bad isk selling bastard :)

p.s. the ability for normal players to set an option not to recieve eve-mail from trial accounts nor see their messages in public channels... or at least those with links (autoblock trial users)... that might be handy :D Maby the ability fo normal players to flag the trial account guy if they post something bad (like 3 bad things = account locked and scheduled for investigation)... of course punishable if normal players overuse it for fun :)


Only blocking them for one day is not good enough. The same people hang around spamming for days on end.

Autoblocking evemail and/or chat from trials sounds better. Should be two seperate settings though.

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
Posted - 2007.12.26 12:45:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: northwesten
Know the saying speak when you spoken to? I think it should be that! (Trail cant send emails unless a real player sent them an email first)

Yub yub!

Aenigma
Gallente
Wormhole Raiders
Posted - 2007.12.26 12:51:00 - [9]
 

It'd be easier to create a list of banned words containing the adresses of the sites those mails refer to. Googling will provide you with a good start list, and CCP should update as new sites appear in mails or get reported by users.

The words contained on this list should be banned from eve-mails, chat, bios and corp descriptions. Also, it should not be possible to rename any object to something that has these words in it.

This should solve the spam pretty fast. Also you might want to automate the detection of any variations. As in naughtysite.com would automatically imply that naugthy site.com, n a u g h t y s i t e . c o m and all variations are banned as well.

Freman
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:03:00 - [10]
 

If it were up to me I would simply limit the amount of mails a trail account could send per day to about 1-2 that way they can still mail someone if needed, but not spam everyone.

Jaggeh
The Order of Odin
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:15:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Freman
If it were up to me I would simply limit the amount of mails a trail account could send per day to about 1-2 that way they can still mail someone if needed, but not spam everyone.


you=nail+head

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:21:00 - [12]
 

I can count the number of worthwhile evemails sent by trial accounts on no fingers of none of my hands.

Angel Yofiel
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:22:00 - [13]
 


A few suggestions to this problem.

* Require people to have the receiver in the address book (unless the recipient is in the same non NPC Corp or Alliance).
* Limit the frequency you can add people to your address book to 1 per minute.

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:26:00 - [14]
 

How's about requiring the recipient to have the sender in their address book?

NightF0x
Gallente
Intergalactic League of Terrorists
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:30:00 - [15]
 

How about not blocking them and just petition the spammers? Usually it doesn't take more than a few hours for CCP to ban them after you petition them.

Mr Mozzie
Evolution
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.26 14:10:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Freman
If it were up to me I would simply limit the amount of mails a trail account could send per day to about 1-2 that way they can still mail someone if needed, but not spam everyone.


1-2 is a bit too low, perhaps 10 or 20 for the whole account per day. That would make it hard enough to mail economically large numbers of people, and would not restrict 90% of legitimate players.

That would be much better than a blanket ban.




Strak Yogorn
Amarr
Mind Warpers
Posted - 2007.12.26 14:41:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: NightF0x
How about not blocking them and just petition the spammers? Usually it doesn't take more than a few hours for CCP to ban them after you petition them.


and they'll be right back on a new trial... some sort of filter would be the better solution, be it serverside or an editable client filter you can maintain yourself. maybe an option to block npc corp chars - might even encourage a small fraction to switch out of npc..

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.12.26 14:48:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: SoftRevolution on 26/12/2007 14:52:33
Originally by: NightF0x
How about not blocking them and just petition the spammers? Usually it doesn't take more than a few hours for CCP to ban them after you petition them.


Why should I have to take action to avoid spam?

It's pointless anyway. They'll just make another FREE TRIAL ACCOUNT (which is what the thread is about) AT NO COST FOR NO MONEY and carry on doing exactly the same thing.

A passive system would require zero effort from either us the players or from any of the GMs or extra server workload but would ensure I didn't have to clear badly translated evemail out of my account on an hourly basis which is ****ing irritating.

Word based filter systems, GM action etc. etc. all require effort.


 

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