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Renton Thurston
Reaper Industries
Eternal Rapture
Posted - 2007.12.24 06:09:00 - [31]
 

I'd prefer some type of auto-fit a loadout on a ship and have that export/importable for external tools like EFT, etc.

Sort of like it buying things from a inventory station back in Tribes or Tribes 2.

You'd select, hit apply and it would pull what it could from the hangar you're at.

-R

Kerdrak
GreenSwarm
Black Legion.
Posted - 2007.12.24 09:54:00 - [32]
 

I would like this:

- All overview settings in a file (something like "overview.ini").
- Overview settings shared by all accounts/characters in that client.

Cyberman Mastermind
Posted - 2007.12.24 11:02:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Ri****ulo
most of all container configurations. Every time i lose my settings i have to reconfigure LOADS of containers not to lock items on drop.

YES, definitely. Every time after a patch I have to re-set containers all over the world. It's annoying and needless.

Zhunya
Posted - 2007.12.24 13:20:00 - [34]
 

ADDEDNUM:

Please give us rights to configure [Reset Supress Messages] state, its annoying when you have fresh client and want to attack enemy, you getting message "its dangerous" and in fact you loose +8 seconds and you are dead ;(

Thanks

Zhecao Vai
Ultrapolite Socialites
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.24 16:13:00 - [35]
 

Overview settings are the most important, because they get constantly broken and take like a half hour to reconstruct.

Next on the list: window positions and settings.

Imhothar Xarodit
Minmatar
Wolverine Solutions
Posted - 2007.12.24 16:21:00 - [36]
 

The simple fact how often the word "patch" appears in this thread speaks for itself... sadly!

Wardo21
Posted - 2007.12.24 17:57:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: F'nog
I'd just be happy if every single patch didn't delete my overview settings. Is that too much to ask?


QFT. I seem to only loose the setting on one computer though... odd.

/me knocks on wood that my main computer doesn't loose all the overview and container arangements next patch.

Wardo

Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
Posted - 2007.12.24 18:24:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: Internet Knight on 24/12/2007 18:28:22
Originally by: CCP Explorer
Originally by: Adunh Slavy
All the client side stuff.
I would prefer a prioritised list... Very Happy



In order from my most preferred to not-so-most preferred:
  1. Bookmark folders
  2. Buddy folders
  3. Overview filters
  4. Overview states
  5. Window positions (now including overview positions as well)
  6. Drone groups
  7. Settings -> General Settings
  8. Settings -> Message Suppressions
  9. Settings -> Keyboard Shortcuts
  10. Settings -> Common Graphics Settings


In my opinion, being able to save/load ship setups is begging for problems. Everything from cookie cutter setups to simply accidentally destroying or replacing rigs to having a gimped setup because of different skillsets and/or missing/differing modules. On the other hand, saving everything else is pretty much straightforward. For example, allowing the exportation of overview settings would allow corporations, alliances, and organizations to distribute "standard" overview settings for fleet battles.

Tammarr
Posted - 2007.12.24 23:37:00 - [39]
 

While just rclick->fit ship like this may seem like a good idea.

...I cry at making it into a 'Use this fitting, here take this xml, buy the stuff in it and it will auto fit to your ship upon rclick and youll have the uber fit, cant go wrong, no worries.' and would consider it a bad idea due to further 'this is the setup you should be using, nothing else realy works' homogenisation(sorry for spelling). Part of the fun is learning to fit your ship on your own.

While saving client side settings like overview settings, window positions(possibly a 'arrange my windows according to my 'fleet bs setting' would be cool), drone folders, bookmark folders(!!!) and general settings(gfx settings/audio/shortcuts/etc) to make it easy to switch from 'Good looking mode' to '15bit graphics fleet battle' settings in the blink of an eye.

Synapse Archae
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.12.25 00:45:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Synapse Archae on 25/12/2007 00:45:41
Originally by: CCP Explorer
I would prefer a prioritised list... Very Happy

But what about server-side settings, such as ship fittings, which would allow you to re-fit a ship by importing an XML file? You could also more easily brag about your setup by posting the XML file.


Just do what people need and leave the bells and whistles for when you have time later. Were talking about repetitive tasks, which ship fitting is not.

Give us
-Overview Settings
-Window Position and Size
-Drone Windows
-Bookmark and Friendlist folders
-Hardware settings (sound on/off, turret gfx on/off, occluded ships, fullscreen.)
-Message suppression

Cover those and you will never hear people complain again.

Helen Baque
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.12.25 06:30:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Synapse Archae
Cover those and you will never hear people complain again.

Clearly you have confused EVE with Hello Kitty Online World. Twisted Evil

Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2007.12.25 16:14:00 - [42]
 

"Are you sure you want to do this? CONCORD may come to destroy you if you click 'ok' on this box."

YES I AM SURE I WANT TO BLOW THIS PERSON UP!! HAVE I EVER CLICKED ANYTHING OTHER THAN 'NO' FOR THE PAST BILLION PATCHES?!??!!

Isidien Madcap
Eighty Joule Brewery
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.25 21:34:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
But what about server-side settings, such as ship fittings, which would allow you to re-fit a ship by importing an XML file? You could also more easily brag about your setup by posting the XML file.


I was just thinking about this the other day -- it would be great if you could save your ship fittings, but one important component of that would be the ability to buy a fully fit ship: select a fitting, hit a buy button, and get presented with a final bill listing all the items and whether they're available in the local station/system/region. For bonus points, add an optional checkbox to have it take into account modules you have in your hangar.

Beside this, the only other setting that I'd love to see saved is Overview settings -- configuring that thing is painful, and it would be great to be able to share preconfigured setups.

Most other things seem pretty easy to quickly configure (graphics settings, window positions, etc).

Isidien Madcap
Eighty Joule Brewery
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.25 21:37:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Tammarr
While just rclick->fit ship like this may seem like a good idea.

...I cry at making it into a 'Use this fitting, here take this xml, buy the stuff in it and it will auto fit to your ship upon rclick and youll have the uber fit, cant go wrong, no worries.' and would consider it a bad idea due to further 'this is the setup you should be using, nothing else realy works' homogenisation(sorry for spelling). Part of the fun is learning to fit your ship on your own.


Yeah, but part of the not-fun is buying 3-4 identical ships and fittings and having to fit them each manually. People are already looking up fittings here/scrapheap/wherever and just copying blindly. All you're saving is having to manually fit each module to your ship, which seems like a good thing given that blowing up ships is a large part of this game...

Schani Kratnorr
x13
Raiden.
Posted - 2007.12.26 02:29:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Adunh Slavy
All the client side stuff.

Folders in peeps and places, overview settings, window positions, drone groups (if that's client side) - all of it Smile

If nothing else an easy thing might be to just make a backup of the client side data set on successful shutdowns, since it is just a directory and some files. Although XML or simialr would be nice so corps could share overview settings and what not for wars and such and we could import/export them.


I have waited since late beta for a button that would save the clientside stuff. I have lost count of how many times I have had to re-do everything.

To be fair, I did play from a netcafé a while, and that REALLY opened my eyes to the PITA it was...

Can we please have a "SAVE" button, or possibly an export button. Would also help IMMENSELY if I could simply have an XML-file I could use to share my overviews.

*signed*

DigitalCommunist
November Corporation
Posted - 2007.12.26 02:33:00 - [46]
 

Funny, had this conversation with a corpmate last night. Not being able to store settings server side used to be a minor issue. But with so much being fixed already, this is more important now.

I would like to be able to store folders, overview settings, my responses to those stupid popup questions, and uh.. market quickbar?

Flamewave
Crimson Moon Society
Posted - 2007.12.26 20:57:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
Overview settings? Open windows, size and position?


These are definitely the primary things I'd love to export/import. Especially since lately my Local window keeps resetting itself after logging off then logging back in and I can't reproduce it, it seems to happen randomly. :(

In'si
Posted - 2007.12.27 03:02:00 - [48]
 

While I didn't read the entire thread to see if this came up already. I skipped to the end when I saw something about settings XML files to import and export fitting kits people might use and lose a lot. I was thinking the other day during a fleet fight, why can't we reload an entire rack to the same ammo in one go. It's a bit of a pain to have to reload 6,7,8 guns depending on BS, in warp, with system load and stress from having 400+ ships in a system. Then have to reload sensor boosters and tracking computers based on these short/long range setups. Why can't we make a charge load out so we flip one switch instead of 11 or 13 depending on how many mods we have active.

p.s. no this isn't my main.

Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.27 05:10:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: CCP Explorer
But what about server-side settings, such as ship fittings, which would allow you to re-fit a ship by importing an XML file? You could also more easily brag about your setup by posting the XML file.

Absolutely secondary.

I think that better information about what *should/has* to be saved on the client would help a lot of people.

If you want to save your folders, weapon layouts (not weapon loads, but things like moving modules to others slots), log ons and all that client stuff, then you should tell people to save the contents of "C:\Documents and Settings\{logon}\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings".

The OP didn't ask about an import/export of load outs, why try and even push it that way, all he/she asked for was a simple way to save client settings and restore them.

Stop trying to push features that you might think are cool, but no one is asking for.

Helen Baque
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.12.27 07:16:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
If you want to save your folders, weapon layouts (not weapon loads, but things like moving modules to others slots), log ons and all that client stuff, then you should tell people to save the contents of "C:\Documents and Settings\{logon}\Local Settings\Application Data\CCP\EVE\settings".

Are weapon layouts really client-side? Doesn't that sort of thing have to be on the server?

And specifically, I want to get the hell out of the M$ Hierarchy. I want to be able to have all those settings saved, preferably automatically. I want it be one place, and I want it to be a place I tell it to go. It used to be trivial; I would just make a copy of the EVE folder when I was done playing.

Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
The OP didn't ask about an import/export of load outs, why try and even push it that way... Stop trying to push features that you might think are cool, but no one is asking for.

I'm going to say that it counts as an implicit request on my part. I was particularly frustrated about the issues in my original post, but I have buckets full of UI issues. When we're in-game we should be in-game, not fooling about with the interface. I am glad to have any dev in on the topic of UI upgrades.

Originally by: Jaabaa Prime
all he/she asked

I'm not political, feel free to pick a pronoun at random. ;-)


Jaabaa Prime
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.12.27 18:26:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Helen Baque
Are weapon layouts really client-side? Doesn't that sort of thing have to be on the server?

The load out is on the server, but where you move the modules to in space, i.e. their position on the display is stored client side.

Originally by: Helen Baque
And specifically, I want to get the hell out of the M$ Hierarchy. I want to be able to have all those settings saved, preferably automatically. I want it be one place, and I want it to be a place I tell it to go. It used to be trivial; I would just make a copy of the EVE folder when I was done playing.

I whole heartedly agree with what you want, 1 button press and like magic there is a file with everything in there. Maybe something like a simple zip of the settings folder and the restore button to do the same thing in reverse.

Natalie Jax
Battlestars
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.27 18:26:00 - [52]
 

Please allow me to easily make backups of my:

1) Overview Settings
2) Bookmark Folders
3) Window Positions and Settings
4) Drone Groups



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