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Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:17:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Slyton Silur on 21/12/2007 21:58:03
Am looking for some PVP setups for the Brutix. So far i've made 2 myself:

[PVP Tank]
LOWS:
2xMedium 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I
Damage Control II
2xEnergized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

MIDS:
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I - Cap Booster 800

HIGHS:
5xHeavy Electron Blaster II- Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
2xHeavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

5xHammerhead I


[PVP Gank]
LOWS:
3xMagnetic Field Stabilizer II
Damage Control II
Reactor Control Unit I

MIDS:
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I,Cap Booster 200

HIGHS:
7xHeavy Neutron Blaster II,Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M


5xHammerhead I


EFT Screenshot
What do you think? will any of these two work? if so both? or only one(if so which)?

If you got another setup please feel free to post it.

Horisontti
River Styx.
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:23:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Slyton Silur
Am looking for some PVP setups for the Brutix. So far i've made 2 myself:

Brutix

What do you think? will any of these two work? if so both? or only one(if so which)?

If you got another setup please feel free to post it.


The first one seems very good. That would work solo and in gangs.

Annowyn
Ammatar.
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:24:00 - [3]
 

I know it may sound odd, but on that gank setup maybe drop the cap booster for a large shield extender (donno if it will fit). Will give ya a little more buffer as you are in some heavy **** if you need a cap booster in that setup. YARRRR!!

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:27:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Annowyn
I know it may sound odd, but on that gank setup maybe drop the cap booster for a large shield extender (donno if it will fit). Will give ya a little more buffer as you are in some heavy **** if you need a cap booster in that setup. YARRRR!!


Only reason i used a cap booster in the gank setup is so that i can run everything expected the MWD as long as i got cap boosters in the cargo. Also my shield skills isn't too good. But thanks for the tip.

Kaileen Starsong
Amarr
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:43:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Kaileen Starsong on 21/12/2007 11:49:07
Train AWU5 or drop one ion for electron and change Accoms to T2 MARs. DPS difference is so small it won't have any noticeable effect in combat, while T2 MARs rep quite a bit more than Accoms, and they're a lot cheaper.

Actually, AWU4 will do fine with named mwd/injector.

XrayZ
SandStorm.
The Babylon Consortium
Posted - 2007.12.21 11:47:00 - [6]
 

i would say... hope to meet u in space Cool

and also, make linky to the pics... mods will pwn ur post.

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.21 12:15:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Slyton Silur on 21/12/2007 22:00:07
@Kaileen Starsong:
Changed the PVP Tank setup. Removed on Ion and replaced it with an Electron. Then i replaced the named reps with the T2 ones, works, and my cap is still good to go.

[PVP Tank]
LOWS:
2xMedium Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
2xEnergized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

MIDS:
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Fleeting Warp Scrambler I
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I - Cap Booster 800

HIGHS:
6xHeavy Electron Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
1x Heavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

EFT Screenshot


@XrayZ: Its not allowed to post pics here you say?

Voltron
Caldari
Black Lance
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2007.12.21 13:12:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Voltron on 21/12/2007 13:12:59
Not used a tix since before rigs came out, the top setup is almost identical to what I used to run, only dif was I dropped one of the reps for a mag stab 2, killer setup for a t1 bc.

Volt

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.21 21:09:00 - [9]
 

So its better to be able to tank some instead of just doing a lot of damage, and hope you will kill the opponent as fast as possible?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2007.12.21 21:12:00 - [10]
 

Neutral You should linkify the images and provide a summary of the fit.

-Liang

Zeknichov
Life. Universe. Everything.
Posted - 2007.12.21 21:41:00 - [11]
 

Before when NOS was heavily used you wanted high gank because your tank was doomed to failure. Now that NOS is not used as much I would rely more on tank then before. The first setup is identical to what I would fly however I would use a MWD II, all Electrons (for consistency) and MAR II. Throw on a couple nano pumps for rigs if you want (I wouldn't for the price of rigs and the benefit you get it's not worth it.) And there's your setup.

Kuzya Morozov
Gallente
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2007.12.21 22:11:00 - [12]
 

TBH, normal set-up is whack - if you're going with passive resists, go EANM II, DCU II, Magstab II, a LOT better. Else, go 3 x Active Hardeners, DCU II + 2 EANM IIs with maxed compensation skills will not give what actives give, and actives take very little cap. Only problem with the ship imo is cap, so train up cap skills, if you rig it 2 x aux nano pumps and then 1 x repair speed rig you can cycle reppers.

Gavin Darklighter
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.12.21 23:55:00 - [13]
 

If you have good drone skills the blaster myrmi will still out tank and out gank a 5-slot tank brutix. If you start fitting damage mods on the brutix it will start to out-dps the myrmi, but the brutix can't out-gank the myrmi unless you cripple it's tank.

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.22 15:48:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
If you have good drone skills the blaster myrmi will still out tank and out gank a 5-slot tank brutix. If you start fitting damage mods on the brutix it will start to out-dps the myrmi, but the brutix can't out-gank the myrmi unless you cripple it's tank.


So you say that the Myrmidon will crush the brutix in anyway?

VicturusTeSaluto
Gallente
Metafarmers
MeatSausage EXPRESS
Posted - 2007.12.22 16:30:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Gavin Darklighter
If you have good drone skills the blaster myrmi will still out tank and out gank a 5-slot tank brutix.


Only if you are playing EFT and not EVE. Drone DPS is quite nearly useless paper DPS. There is no good reason to use a myrm over the other BC's.

Altterra
Posted - 2007.12.22 17:03:00 - [16]
 

The myrmidon, as high-tech as it might look, won't stand a chance against a properly flown brutix in it's optimal range.

I've killed several myrms with my trusty brutix, and my kill-ratio is about 5 kills for every 1 death, so the statement about the myrmidon wtfpwning the brutix in actualy combat is a false one.

Please note that it was against equally skilled people, and one of the kills was performed while under sentryfire.

Happy Brutixing!

Tuko kun
Black Viper Nomads
Posted - 2007.12.22 17:22:00 - [17]
 

Mabye im just not right in the head but I have really enjoyed using a rail setup on my brutix recently for gangs above 6 people.

6x 200mm t2 rails
named mwd, sb(locking time script) tracking comp(tracking script) 24km scram
rep, 3x t2 active and a mag stab 2

fed navy anti gives 14km raneg. spike give 55km range

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2007.12.22 17:48:00 - [18]
 

Tech 2 ftw.

LOWS:
Medium Armor Repair II
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Explosive Armor Hardener II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

MIDS:
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I - Cap Booster 800

HIGHS:
5xHeavy Ion Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
2xHeavy Electron Blaster II - Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

5xHammerhead II or 5x Light ECM and 5x Hobgoblin II

Rigs if you want.

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.23 10:18:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Slyton Silur on 23/12/2007 10:44:29
I tested out the latest "tank" setup against a drake from my corp yesterday, and it seemed like i would have won until he came up to the last 20-30% of his shield, i did not have enough DPS at the end to go through it, and when my cap boosters went empty i was out.

Tried to fit 2xmagstabs instead of the energized membranes, but then my tank didn't seem to hold that good anymore.
So either i need to train some skills or there is something wrong with my setup. Of course, i do not now if brutix's are supposed to take down drakes. Also it may have helped with T2 drones.

So any tips will be appreciated.

Edit: I used Void as ammo, had to test it out. didn't have a chance to test faction ammo on the brutix.

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.26 13:12:00 - [20]
 

Anyone?

Kuzya Morozov
Gallente
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2007.12.26 20:12:00 - [21]
 

Drake is going to have a better tank than you no matter what you do, it's a higher tier BC and it's shield tank is probably the best tank out of all BCs. Don't get upset, I love my Brutix, but after some time there are so many things you can do with it.

Knightsport
Posted - 2007.12.26 21:09:00 - [22]
 

Myrm will be better, but only marginally. You're looking at a good 50dps and 50 dps tanked increase with the same fitting over a Brutix, and an extra mid, but that's with all level 5 skills. This is with all T2 fittings as well.

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.26 21:49:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kuzya Morozov
Drake is going to have a better tank than you no matter what you do, it's a higher tier BC and it's shield tank is probably the best tank out of all BCs. Don't get upset, I love my Brutix, but after some time there are so many things you can do with it.



Don't mind it having better tank than me, what upset me was that i didn't manage to get through its shield, or at last it seemed i wouldn't get through. Because i ran out of cap boosters as i said.

Fehnrail
Caldari
The Day Watch
Posted - 2007.12.26 22:01:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Slyton Silur
Don't mind it having better tank than me, what upset me was that i didn't manage to get through its shield, or at last it seemed i wouldn't get through. Because i ran out of cap boosters as i said.


What do you think Drakes tank with, hull reppers and a DCU?

Slyton Silur
Wolves Of Legend
Consortium.
Posted - 2007.12.26 22:32:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Slyton Silur on 26/12/2007 22:32:17
Originally by: Fehnrail
Originally by: Slyton Silur
Don't mind it having better tank than me, what upset me was that i didn't manage to get through its shield, or at last it seemed i wouldn't get through. Because i ran out of cap boosters as i said.


What do you think Drakes tank with, hull reppers and a DCU?


Ah dude please, am not stupid.
I know that drakes shield tank. What am after her is tips which can help me take down the drake, if its possible for a brutix.

Khorr Volka
Posted - 2007.12.26 23:18:00 - [26]
 

If his Drake is setup with the ridiculous passive tank as most of them are, you won't be able to break it with a mix of electrons and ions and tank. Your best chance solo in this case IMO would be fit gank neutron setup & medium ECM drones. Fly balls out and hope you keep jamming him. Don't bother orbiting him or anything, keep him at your optimal and just hope for the best. You can always get out against Drakes setup with the uber tanks cause they don't have enough slots for either a web or scram anyways.

Good Luck

Linium
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2007.12.27 01:49:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Linium on 27/12/2007 01:52:09
5 ions 2 electrons

mwd
scram
web
injector

rep
eanm
dcu
2 mag stab

5 med drones

All t2

faction ammo and good skills give 500+dps and decent tank if u fit a rig or 2

port22
Gallente
Eclipse Industrials
IMPERIUM.
Posted - 2007.12.27 07:26:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Khorr Volka
If his Drake is setup with the ridiculous passive tank as most of them are, you won't be able to break it with a mix of electrons and ions and tank. Your best chance solo in this case IMO would be fit gank neutron setup & medium ECM drones. Fly balls out and hope you keep jamming him. Don't bother orbiting him or anything, keep him at your optimal and just hope for the best. You can always get out against Drakes setup with the uber tanks cause they don't have enough slots for either a web or scram anyways.

Good Luck


If the Drake is setup for uber tank, you will need 800 Kinetic/Thermal DPS to break its tank. Your never going to achieve that in a brutix. The Drake will just sit there and laugh, and eventually you will have to leave as you will be capped out. He however will not be able to hold you there.

Annowyn
Ammatar.
Posted - 2007.12.27 09:16:00 - [29]
 

To help break his tank fit a medium neut, turn your effects on and when you see the shield hardener effect disappear turn the neut off. If he is fitting the "are you ****ing serious" passive tank this will knock out his resists for a good long while due to his slow cap recharge.

port22
Gallente
Eclipse Industrials
IMPERIUM.
Posted - 2007.12.28 05:25:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Annowyn
To help break his tank fit a medium neut, turn your effects on and when you see the shield hardener effect disappear turn the neut off. If he is fitting the "are you ****ing serious" passive tank this will knock out his resists for a good long while due to his slow cap recharge.


How long do you think you can run your neuts on your brutix for?
Fitting neuts will lower your DPS, thus reducing your ability to kill the drake.
Good luck to you if you think you can break the "are you ****ing serious" drake tank with a brutix solo.


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