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ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.12.20 10:13:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 20/12/2007 19:39:42
Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 20/12/2007 10:44:37
OK I finally plucked up the courage to install Ubuntu 7.10 on a dual boot on my laptop. And it works, yay me! Anyway I only have integrated graphics and it appears the Linux Eve client doesn't like that very much. So if I download the Windows client and run it under Wine, will that work?

Yes I know there's a 60 page thread about this on the first page, but quite frankly, I don't understand a word of it, so I'm asking here.

Edit: OK, well I've installed the Eve client using Wine. The first time I tried to fire up Eve, it told me I didn't have sufficient privileges to install the require D3D thingamajig. Then it just closed after the eve splash screen. Now it just closes after the splash screen without the error message.

Edit2: Right, I've forked out 10 quid for Cedega. Exactly the same error message Crying or Very sad

Durethia
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.12.20 21:15:00 - [2]
 

Please try to use the official cedega-wrapper linux client.

"D3D thingamajig"... no offense, but it seems that to provide help with getting this to run under Wine might further confuse you.

The Linux client works nicely. Integrated graphics or not, if you can give us details on your integrated graphics we might be able to help there. BTW, if your integrated graphics are ATI then that might pose a small problem.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:19:00 - [3]
 

No, believe me. The linux client does not work with my graphics hardware. I can log in, but as soon as the portraits on the character selection screen try to load, it crashes. I read another thread about this on this forum and it turned out to be the guys integrated graphics.

Mine aren't ATI or nVidia. They're Intel.

Durethia
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
No, believe me. The linux client does not work with my graphics hardware. I can log in, but as soon as the portraits on the character selection screen try to load, it crashes. I read another thread about this on this forum and it turned out to be the guys integrated graphics.

Mine aren't ATI or nVidia. They're Intel.


I'm curious...

If you have an Intel graphics chipset, do you also have accelerated 3D graphics?

farfrael
FP Enterprise
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:31:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: farfrael on 20/12/2007 22:32:26
Edited by: farfrael on 20/12/2007 22:31:17
a few things as of now:
- CCP wrapped client works fine
- Cedega + windows client = FAIL
- wine + windows client "works" apparently but with some fairly weird stuff (turn off network card etc)

the CCP wrapped client is based on cedega, so if your integrated graphic card is not supported, it will not work with either the CCP client or Cedega (note that cedega + windows client does not work anyway)
It MIGHT work under wine but in all likelihood the performances will be horrible. The latest extension (Trinity) is using the GPU much more than previously.

Also, how does it work under windows? I'd be curious to know



ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:37:00 - [6]
 

I can run Eve (classic) without a problem under windows. Fairly good FPS too.

farfrael
FP Enterprise
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:43:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
I can run Eve (classic) without a problem under windows. Fairly good FPS too.

ah, good to know

although if cedega/CCP client do not support your card, you will not be able to use them and your only chance seems to be running eve under wine. Cannot really help there as I have never tried

Could you please run "lspci -vv" and post the section regarding the graphic card?
lspc is a command listing the various PCI devices on your machine. do a "man lspci" to check :)

NightKhaos
Gallente
Relative Quantum Limited
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:50:00 - [8]
 

Saddly, due to the nature of Cedega, I think you would be better of staying with the Windows Client. You may be able to get EVE running on Linux, but the overhead required will be too large, and since you use integrated graphics, the extra CPU required to convert DirectX style executions into OpenGL style executions will degrade you performance by a huge factor.

Durethia
Blackwater USA Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:56:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
I can run Eve (classic) without a problem under windows. Fairly good FPS too.


But if Linux doesn't have drivers for 3D acceleration on your Intel chipset, then it's a no go for you.

DRI/DRM and 3D Acceleration is supposed to work for Intel i8x0 based chipsets, however you might have something different as I'm not a big fan of Intel graphics cards.

You'll have to make sure that DRM is enabled in your kernel and DRI is enabled in your xorg.conf file. Then test to see if you get 3D acceleration by running a simple OpenGL app like 'glxgears'.

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.12.20 23:35:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: farfrael
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
I can run Eve (classic) without a problem under windows. Fairly good FPS too.

ah, good to know

although if cedega/CCP client do not support your card, you will not be able to use them and your only chance seems to be running eve under wine. Cannot really help there as I have never tried

Could you please run "lspci -vv" and post the section regarding the graphic card?
lspc is a command listing the various PCI devices on your machine. do a "man lspci" to check :)


00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device 30a2
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
Latency: 0
Region 0: Memory at f4500000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Capabilities: <access denied>

I think I'm going to have to just keep using Windows for games on this laptop at least. I have another computer (which, for reasons of car boot space, had to be left behind in Coventry over Christmas Razz) which has an ATI card. I'll just keep my fingers crossed that I can install Ubuntu on that too, and play games without these problems. I'm determined to get SOME use out of that 10 quid I spent Razz (It turns out that I can't even play really old games like Deus Ex on Ubuntu either)

ReaperOfSly
Gallente
Underworld Protection Agency
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2007.12.20 23:37:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Durethia
Originally by: ReaperOfSly
I can run Eve (classic) without a problem under windows. Fairly good FPS too.


But if Linux doesn't have drivers for 3D acceleration on your Intel chipset, then it's a no go for you.

DRI/DRM and 3D Acceleration is supposed to work for Intel i8x0 based chipsets, however you might have something different as I'm not a big fan of Intel graphics cards.

You'll have to make sure that DRM is enabled in your kernel and DRI is enabled in your xorg.conf file. Then test to see if you get 3D acceleration by running a simple OpenGL app like 'glxgears'.


glxgears shows up in the setup wizard for Cedega, and it works fine.

Iz Djiin
Posted - 2007.12.20 23:42:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: farfrael

- wine + windows client "works" apparently but with some fairly weird stuff (turn off network card etc)

This is old news: Wine+windows client (classic *and* premium) works fine, you just have to use the "BindIO patch" (see Wine Eve thread above)

Adel Sorra
Posted - 2007.12.22 17:23:00 - [13]
 

offtopic @ reaper

Deus Ex with wine got a platinum rating

Snowcrash Winterheart2
Gallente
Concordia Discors
Posted - 2007.12.23 03:22:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: ReaperOfSly
glxgears shows up in the setup wizard for Cedega, and it works fine.


The use of GLX gears to test for 3D functions is... rather stupid on the part of Transgaming. GLXgears will show up even if your running the 2d nv driver and do a rather nifty amount of frames with a modern card around (my Go 7900 GS was pushing several hundred fps out).

The Intel drivers on Linux are a hybrid. In Windows the hardware is used a lot more than in Linux... where Intel decided it'd be a jolly jape to just bolt right in to the Mesa-3D libs; so bits are hardware accelerated bits are software. The end result is that whilst it might work on 'some' stuff in Wine (or native) and it'll do Compiz eye candy... the sucker ain't gonna do games for the most part.

Bet Tuxracer would run though.


 

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