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marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2007.12.20 14:37:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.

Plutoinum
Minmatar
Mercenaries of Andosia
Veritas Immortalis
Posted - 2007.12.20 14:40:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/12/2007 14:44:55
Personally I don't hate Goons, it's just that taking their posts seriously was usually just a bad idea. Goon posts are not to be taken seriously ! If you think they are serious, the alarm bell rings in your head and you think: 'It's a trap !' Laughing

Ungdall
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.20 15:19:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Plutoinum
Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/12/2007 14:44:55
Personally I don't hate Goons, it's just that taking their posts seriously was usually just a bad idea. Goon posts are not to be taken seriously ! If you think they are serious, the alarm bell rings in your head and you think: 'It's a trap !' Laughing


Of course it's a trap, for once your heart embraces love, it will never let go. Love with Us. Join Us. Become Us. Be Us.

Yussef
Amarr
War is Bliss
Posted - 2007.12.20 15:43:00 - [184]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.


That's because we are a peace loving alliance and believe war should be done away with.

Althair Erin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.12.20 17:05:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Plutoinum
Edited by: Plutoinum on 20/12/2007 14:44:55
Personally I don't hate Goons, it's just that taking their posts seriously was usually just a bad idea. Goon posts are not to be taken seriously ! If you think they are serious, the alarm bell rings in your head and you think: 'It's a trap !' Laughing


This is an extremely serious issue, thanks for bringing it up. The concept of trust, and the inability to trust the truth or sincerity of another players words is an absolutely huge obstacle to any kind of communication.

I hope that so far I've demonstrated that I'm fully willing and capable to talk honestly, and that this will encourage you and others to take this conversation seriously.

My hopefulness comes in part from the fact that I am not part of the 'old guard' of goon players that many people seem to take issue with. The fact that I'm new should mean that I deserve at least a chance to show my quality before you judge me- prejudging someone because of their alliance is one of the points I've spoken out against as strenuously as possible here.

So in the interest of furthering this dialogue (which in my opinion has been very productive, and had great success in drawing the interest of many different players and corporations) I thought I should offer something else! If anyone is curious about the experience of being a new and rather optimistic member of the swarm, I would welcome your questions. I would really like to dispel your concerns or misconceptions to the best of my ability. I hope I've already made a start on the issue of the lack of trust. Of course we have to remember that we're taking things on a case by case basis. It's important to distinguish here between "This man is speaking for all goons" and "This man is a goon and is speaking for himself."

Similarly, I'm willing to talk to you as an individual pilot with no concern for your affiliation.

Cvuos
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.20 17:14:00 - [186]
 

Seriously, I hope that one day we can see peace throughout Eve.

marakor
Gallente
Anti Lag Forum Smackers
Posted - 2007.12.20 18:12:00 - [187]
 

Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 18:12:27
Originally by: Yussef
Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.


That's because we are a peace loving alliance and believe war should be done away with.


Im sure bob will be pleased that your invasion plans are now halted seeing as you now are a peaceful alliance and are doing away with war.

FOEHAMMER006
Caldari
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.20 18:18:00 - [188]
 

They are only miners ofc Wink

Yussef
Amarr
War is Bliss
Posted - 2007.12.20 19:00:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 18:12:27
Originally by: Yussef
Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.


That's because we are a peace loving alliance and believe war should be done away with.


Im sure bob will be pleased that your invasion plans are now halted seeing as you now are a peaceful alliance and are doing away with war.


Consider it a war to end all wars.

The Hooch
Minmatar
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.20 19:53:00 - [190]
 

Oh good night princess, do you need a tissue and flowers to make you feel better?

I don't hate anyone in this game, I just want your loot to sell so I don't have to really work for it...

Guns are for shooting, I am a thief, do the math. YARRRR!!

Hooch

Kyrie Elaison
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:49:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.


I love this line of argument. It's bitterness made flesh. Once you're done listing your excuses, you still know you're losing and it's not even close. Maybe you should figure out what you've done wrong on your end (failure to take risks, poor diplomacy, bizarre strategic planning) before simply pointing fingers and saying "Blobbers, cheaters, etc."

Oh, I know you claim not to be a Bob alt, but let's give up the pretense. You're either in Bob or a diehard ally of theirs because of the sheer level of your bitterness.

Elder Bob
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:52:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
Originally by: marakor
Edited by: marakor on 20/12/2007 14:39:05
Originally by: Kyrie Elaison
BLAH BLAH self deluded drivel BLAH BLAH.


Goons have done nothing for eve apart from turn combat back 4 years.


I love this line of argument. It's bitterness made flesh. Once you're done listing your excuses, you still know you're losing and it's not even close. Maybe you should figure out what you've done wrong on your end (failure to take risks, poor diplomacy, bizarre strategic planning) before simply pointing fingers and saying "Blobbers, cheaters, etc."

Oh, I know you claim not to be a Bob alt, but let's give up the pretense. You're either in Bob or a diehard ally of theirs because of the sheer level of your bitterness.

If his main is who I think it is, he's actually blue to us. He was in one of the LV reject alliances until pretty reecently though.

Rocka Stargirl
Caldari
Falasha
Posted - 2008.01.23 20:59:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Cvuos
Seriously, I hope that one day we can see peace throughout Eve.

Kind of like we have in the south. Except for that one stubborn bit.

Tripden
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2008.01.23 21:15:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Althair Erin
When I fly through space not owned by my Alliance or allies


Thats +60% of all 0.0... :) oh and you are in the wrong alliance if you want to be "loved" :)

But hey good luck out ther, you can bet that i will drop you a "friendly" line or two after i blow up your ship... Wink

CobraBytez
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.01.23 21:22:00 - [195]
 

Groon :cripes:

Althair Erin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.23 21:52:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: Tripden
Originally by: Althair Erin
When I fly through space not owned by my Alliance or allies


Thats +60% of all 0.0... :) oh and you are in the wrong alliance if you want to be "loved" :)

But hey good luck out ther, you can bet that i will drop you a "friendly" line or two after i blow up your ship... Wink


I'm going to have to strongly disagree with you there. I've gotten a lot of love and kindness from members of my corp and alliance, and our friends. People have a skewed perception of my fellows. Some of them might seem shifty or annoying but overall they're solid, trustworthy and helpful.

Do you have to wait until after a violent encounter to start a conversation? I don't mind trading shots in space (isn't that what a lot of this game is about?) but by putting your "friendly" in quotes you lead me to think that you won't actually have anything personable to say at all. I think we should be able to relate to each other as players, without presupposing anything based on alliances. For example, I don't place any kind of assumption on your character due to your being in SGL. Although I don't know if that's the best example because I've never actually heard of SGL before. Where do you guys live?

Rod Blaine
Gallente
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2008.01.23 22:10:00 - [197]
 

There's players, and there's emo players. Emo players hate for real, players hate as needed. Old or new has preciously little to do with that.



Atsiz Zhurenh
Minmatar
Tau Ceti Green Card
Free Trade Zone.
Posted - 2008.01.23 22:59:00 - [198]
 

I agree with Althair. I love to blow up neuts and reds... but there is no reason one can't be friendly and banter once in a while with someone that isn't blue. After all, it's just a game, and games are supposed to be fun.

DogTyred
Minmatar
Cool4Cats
Posted - 2008.01.23 23:04:00 - [199]
 

Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity

Dose One
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.01.24 10:23:00 - [200]
 

Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
WOW, that is the first goon thread that I have read that wasent flaming someone.


I do make posts like this, but there's something about cannabis threads and CAOD that just doesn't quite mix right.

Thak Navari
Caldari
The Suicide Express
Sobriety Test Failures
Posted - 2008.01.24 13:03:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: Thak Navari on 24/01/2008 13:26:41
Originally by: Atama Cardel
Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
WOW, that is the first goon thread that I have read that wasent flaming someone.


I know how you feel, but goonswarm is trying to repent our flaming sins and turn CAOD into a wonderful garden of eden that it once was. Come here my brother so I may embrace you in my arms and spread the love


So what you mean is it wasnt Adam and Eve, it is Atama and Steve?

Actually I understand what the OP means as a new player myself. I dont judge on the color of the standings, but on the content of their character.

Althair Erin
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2008.01.24 13:33:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Thak Navari
Edited by: Thak Navari on 24/01/2008 13:26:41
Originally by: Atama Cardel
Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
WOW, that is the first goon thread that I have read that wasent flaming someone.


I know how you feel, but goonswarm is trying to repent our flaming sins and turn CAOD into a wonderful garden of eden that it once was. Come here my brother so I may embrace you in my arms and spread the love


So what you mean is it wasnt Adam and Eve, it is Atama and Steve?

Actually I understand what the OP means as a new player myself. I dont judge on the color of the standings, but on the content of their character.


It warms my heart to hear stuff like this. Thanks for not only taking this discussion seriously but actually carrying the same sentiment of fair judgment with you when you play.

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2008.01.24 13:51:00 - [203]
 

The goons are a pest which should be eredicated.
I have no respect for goonswarm what so ever.

The use of tactics
There politics
The lies
The forum whoring the smack talk and the fofofoofof
and laughing about real life deaths of people

is just to much..

128th ABC123
Caldari
Lucky Clover Investments
Posted - 2008.01.24 15:00:00 - [204]
 

Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 24/01/2008 15:01:41
Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 24/01/2008 15:00:25
Originally by: Garia666
and laughing about real ife deaths of people


Where and why would they do that? Having a laugh and portraying yourself like "goons" on the forum or in a video game i get, but what's funny bout real people dying?

Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
Xenon-Empire
Posted - 2008.01.24 15:11:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: 128th ABC123
Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 24/01/2008 15:01:41
Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 24/01/2008 15:00:25
Originally by: Garia666
and laughing about real ife deaths of people


Where and why would they do that? Having a laugh and portraying yourself like "goons" on the forum or in a video game i get, but what's funny bout real people dying?


thats not funny.. thats the whole point..

Jadzia Blue
Gallente
Department of Truth Enhancement
Posted - 2008.01.24 16:33:00 - [206]
 

Oh shut up.

It's black comedy, give it up already.

Threv Echandari
Caldari
Moira.
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2008.01.24 18:34:00 - [207]
 

Edited by: Threv Echandari on 24/01/2008 18:40:00
Originally by: Jadzia Blue
Oh shut up.

It's black comedy, give it up already.


And that, Althair, is exactly why the Goons get no RL Respect. Their history of "Meta Humor" and "Black Comedy" (used as excuses to be rude and mean) puts enough people off that the kind of respect and "just enjoy the Game" type sentiments you express aren't taken seriously. When I read your first post, I thought it was another GF jokepost (considering the source) but you've been pretty consistent, so your either sincere or a a very good Troll (are you sure your not Tarminics' Alt?) either way I'll bite.

That said the amount of "Bad blood" due to comments and posts by Goons in General (BoB is Not excluded here either but Goons just took it to another level it seems) in the past is hard for alot of old timers to put aside. Some truely tasteless and mean OOG stuff has been spewed in the past. (much of it has been deleted my the mods its was just soo bad) that if you knew you would not wonder why there is so much animosity toward your Brosefs. I'm sure your having fun and it sounds like GF takes care of their Noobs and its all good for you, and maybe you don't understand why all the Hate is out there when all you all are doing is trying to have some fun like the rest of us. And I get what your trying to say, Nobody is really asking anybody to lay down the lasers and sing Kum-Bay-Ya as we conga line around Jita, but a little more civility between we players on the Forums and in "Space" would be nice. (as we blow the Crap out each otherTwisted Evil) Maybe Ambulation and non fighting interactive activites (Gambling in Stations and what not ) will go long way to help this....and then again maybe not /wave /Finger /teabag)Laughing

I much prefer to hear "GF" than "FU";I know there's a human on the other end of the screen and just because I have internet anonymity doesn't mean I have to be a pendejo because "I can". Not everybody see's it this way though and thats where the fun stops and the emo begins. Good luck luck on your quest to reform Eve, Your going to need it.



Van'Klomp
Minmatar
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2008.01.24 19:23:00 - [208]
 

Originally by: DogTyred
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity


Actually, no.

Because when the fighting stops peace is still possible

YARRRR!!

Jadzia Blue
Gallente
Department of Truth Enhancement
Posted - 2008.01.24 19:40:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Threv Echandari

And that, Althair, is exactly why the Goons get no RL Respect. Their history of "Meta Humor" and "Black Comedy" (used as excuses to be rude and mean) puts enough people off that the kind of respect and "just enjoy the Game" type sentiments you express aren't taken seriously. When I read your first post, I thought it was another GF jokepost (considering the source) but you've been pretty consistent, so your either sincere or a a very good Troll (are you sure your not Tarminics' Alt?) either way I'll bite.



You don't get it. You can either laugh at death, or get all ******ed and emo over it. Getting ******ed and emo takes more facial muscles.

How's this for tinfoil?

Smokse never existed. He was a fictional person made up during the Great BoB BBQ of 1865, and he was killed off because the Illuminati BoB knew how the Goons would react, thus providing the excuse for this conflict of conflicts.

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2008.01.25 11:22:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: w0rmy on 25/01/2008 11:23:22
Originally by: Dafuzz

And your CEO absolutely hates me IRL. Ask him, if he doesn't answer, ask Stoffer.

Then come back and ask me if I care YARRRR!!



"I dont care, but i'll bring your attention to it anyway"

LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing



Oh and...

I dont know anyone from eve in real life, so cant hate anyone anyway.





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