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senecti
UK Corp
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:37:00 - [1]
 

I am looking at getting an external display in the 20"-22" range.

I am wondering though if anyone has done this and the results they have seen. I dont think that it will be more of a load, since most LCDs only do 16x10 (MBP runs at 14x9) rather than go up to 19x12.

My system is Core Duo - 2.0ghz w/ 2gbs memory.

Also - anyone upgraded their Hard drive to a 7200 rpm? Notice a change at all in gameplay? with Photoshop?

Thanks

Telekon
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:46:00 - [2]
 

I connected my early-build MBP (1.83Ghz Core Duo, 80GB HD, 2GB RAM) to my LCD projector and it worked great at 1280x720. Screen is 100'' and usually is host to my Mac Mini, Xbox 360 and Comcast HD cable box.

Upgrading from Photoshop 7 to CS3 produced a very noticeable change. The native CS3 is very smooth, even with my machine's lowly specs.

Capn Hack
Caldari
Posted - 2007.12.18 17:19:00 - [3]
 

16x10 (and those other numbers) isnt the resolution, its the aspect ratio of the screen. within that aspect ratio, resolutions can change all over the place. generally, computer monitors come in 4:3 and 16:10 aspect ratios, and 4:3 resolutions are stuff like 640x480, 1280x1024, etc. 16:10 aspect ratios are stuff like 1440x900, 1920x1200, etc. tvs come in 4:3, 16:10, and 16:9 aspect ratios.
the macbook pro should have no trouble running at 1600x1200/1024/1080 so go ahead and get your new monitor, but dont expect not to lose a bit of performance if youre running the game fullscreen.

7200rpm will show definite improvement over 5400, but if youre gonna be spending some cash on a new drive for performance rather than capacity you might wanna go for a 10,000 rpm drive instead. thatll definitely improve performance with things like photoshop if you find its using the scratch disk often. also, if youre not on the move all the time, an external firewire drive would be better than replacing the internal one because the apps on it wont need to share a disk with the system.

Soldara
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.18 18:13:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Capn Hack
16x10 (and those other numbers) isnt the resolution, its the aspect ratio of the screen.


I think that he was just using the short version of 1650x1080, 1440x900, & 1920x1200...

He will also have issues fitting a 3.5" 10,000 RPM drive in a Laptop. Even if he got an external drive, he is better off getting a much larger 7200 RPM drive, only a tiny difference in performance, but MUCH cheaper per GB. Personally for a notebook I would go for storage capacity rather than speed. Nothing is more annoying than being away from home and running out of space...

All of that being said, I run a 2.0 Ghz 2GB Early model MBP with a 5400 RPM drive and I haven't had any problems running Eve on my 24" monitor. Only complaint that I have is that I have to run at 1600x1000 windowed (19x12 cuts off the bottom of the screen due to the menu bar & window header) maybe the patch will make it respect manual settings in the config file.

Best way to increase photoshop performance besides more CPU & Memory is a good external scratch disk. Pick up a firewire drive and partition it so you have several gigs dedicated to the scratch file. Note that USB2 drives will work, but firewire will sustain higher transfer rates with fewer system resources.

strive nails
The Tuskers
Posted - 2007.12.18 18:15:00 - [5]
 

do you want to run both displays at the same time or replace the internal screen with an external display?

technically, a secondary display requires more resources. practically however, this is barely noticeable, at least with conventional resolutions.

replacing your internal display with an external one is not really recommended, at least not for gaming. it gets too hot.

i agree that using an external disk for performance helps on any laptop. make sure its firewire though, usb has inferior performance for external harddisks. set your primary photoshop scratchdisk to the external drive and use your built-in hdd as the secondary one. if the external drive is not connected, ps will automatically fall back to the internal one.

Vixeon
Die Dunkle Seite Der Macht
Posted - 2007.12.19 00:44:00 - [6]
 

Just yesterday i installed a 250gb 5400rpm HD in my Mac Book pro and i notice a performance increase over the older 120gb, i was fairly easy to install and time machine made the whole thing very easy to restore all my stuff.

senecti
UK Corp
Posted - 2007.12.19 18:00:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Vixeon
Just yesterday i installed a 250gb 5400rpm HD in my Mac Book pro and i notice a performance increase over the older 120gb, i was fairly easy to install and time machine made the whole thing very easy to restore all my stuff.


Being that Time Machine is on 10.5, is it worth the upgrade from 10.4? Did you buy your MBP with Leopard, or upgrade from Tiger?


Also, yes i was refering to 16x10 as reso rather than the aspect ratio. Refering to an external drive, would installing eve on a external via Firewire be better than running it from the internal drive? I dont have the 17" so only have the Firewire 400, not 800 as the 17"s come with.

Vixeon
Die Dunkle Seite Der Macht
Posted - 2007.12.19 23:38:00 - [8]
 

MY mbp came with tiger, Time machine its self is worth the outlay for Leopard imo.

Jareth Yartis
Posted - 2007.12.20 22:09:00 - [9]
 

I have an MBP and use the 23" Apple display and it works fine.

Alex's Slave
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.12.21 03:02:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: senecti
Refering to an external drive, would installing eve on a external via Firewire be better than running it from the internal drive? I dont have the 17" so only have the Firewire 400, not 800 as the 17"s come with.


Yes. Also, I have the 15" MacBook Pro and I have FireWire 800. Mine's a current model though - Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz (Santa Rosa)


 

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