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Darahk J'olonar
Gallente
Trans Eve Organization
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:34:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Pottsey
ďIt was Microsoft that broke it by removing DirectSound support in Vista.Ē
No it was CCP. Blaming Microsoft is just the lazy and easy solution.

All my other directsound games work in Vista via OpenAL and Eve did its self for over 6 months. CCP decided to announced a new sound engine thatís better then the old one and at the same time stopped hardware sound. Its wrong to announced a giant leap forward while your really making a giant step backwards.

It was CCP that stopped DirectSound in Vista working not Microsoft. CCP stopped us using directsound via OpenAL not Microsoft. Why blame Microsoft?

Whatís really irritating is itís a simple fix for CCP to do. They could let us use OpenAL again which is 10mins worth of work if that. All they need to do is white list 2 files which they put a ban on for no apparent reason. If there was a reason to ban useing OpenAL for hardware sound can they give it?



No.. Microsoft is broke. Any OS that demands the use of an anti-virus, anti-spam, etc... Just to be able to browse the web in some safety if broken. Not to mention the registry which is defective by design and is the largest single point of failure in any modern operating system. It has flaws in it that have existed since Windows 3.11 that haven't been addressed or repaired. It is a resource hog extroidinaire. Windows also has some of the WORST memory management known to man. So please before you go blaming CCP for sound problems take a good hard look at the broken OS and tools they chose to use and work with... i.e. Microsoft.


Crux Xibalba
Minmatar
Vollmond Corporation
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:36:00 - [152]
 

Edited by: Crux Xibalba on 18/12/2007 15:36:42
Originally by: ZechsMerquise
The thing is, skills are the most vital thing about this game and the thing which stops running when you stop paying. If the server is going to be down for longer than expected it should be made VERY clear that it is going down. Not just a message in the news thing on login which I rarely read cause a) it is full of useless, meningless information most of the time unless you are a roleplayer and b) I normally just click my character straight away cause I wanna log in and play not read through pointless news items to find the one which is absolutely vital to my skills getting done.

It is not much to ask to be slightly better informed when this is going to happen imo.

Oh come mon, give me a break - this is bull****!
If you're too lazy to read 2-5 damn headlines then you don't deserve better.
Damn, how I hate people whining about each and every little **** just because they're too ignorant and/or lazy to read up on stuff.


- Crux Xibalba

DaemonExodus
Sleeper Industries
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:36:00 - [153]
 

Less than 30 mins to the patch should be done.....hope they don't increase the time again!

Frayle
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:37:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: DSidius
Originally by: Pottsey
ďIt was Microsoft that broke it by removing DirectSound support in Vista.Ē
No it was CCP. Blaming Microsoft is just the lazy and easy solution.

All my other directsound games work in Vista via OpenAL and Eve did its self for over 6 months. CCP decided to announced a new sound engine thatís better then the old one and at the same time stopped hardware sound. Its wrong to announced a giant leap forward while your really making a giant step backwards.

It was CCP that stopped DirectSound in Vista working not Microsoft. CCP stopped us using directsound via OpenAL not Microsoft. Why blame Microsoft?

Whatís really irritating is itís a simple fix for CCP to do. They could let us use OpenAL again which is 10mins worth of work if that. All they need to do is white list 2 files which they put a ban on for no apparent reason. If there was a reason to ban useing OpenAL for hardware sound can they give it?



Rofl you use Vista. Come on man, you should know to wait 1 more year for Vista.


/agree

Hell, I'm still waiting for XP to work right. Win2k pro is still on all of my machines. Why? Because nothing that came after win2k pro provided ANY improvement in performance. XP and vista are just eye candy at twice the price. Yeah .. now there's vista only directX 10, but imo... they can keep it.

Mullethead
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:39:00 - [155]
 

Originally by: Vir Hellnamin

yay! Patch day, more Patch Day Pubs (uh oh... my liver!)


The liver is EVIL and must be punished...

Oh wait...wrong thread :)

GWB13
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:40:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Pottsey
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ďIt was Microsoft that broke it by removing DirectSound support in Vista.Ē
No it was CCP. Blaming Microsoft is just the lazy and easy solution.

All my other directsound games work in Vista via OpenAL and Eve did its self for over 6 months. CCP decided to announced a new sound engine thatís better then the old one and at the same time stopped hardware sound. Its wrong to announced a giant leap forward while your really making a giant step backwards.

It was CCP that stopped DirectSound in Vista working not Microsoft. CCP stopped us using directsound via OpenAL not Microsoft. Why blame Microsoft?

Whatís really irritating is itís a simple fix for CCP to do. They could let us use OpenAL again which is 10mins worth of work if that. All they need to do is white list 2 files which they put a ban on for no apparent reason. If there was a reason to ban useing OpenAL for hardware sound can they give it?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Rofl you use Vista. Come on man, you should know to wait 1 more year for Vista.



Yea i use Vista sure, my boot.ini was NOT modivied Twisted Evil

BobbyCarter
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:42:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Crux Xibalba
Edited by: Crux Xibalba on 18/12/2007 15:36:42
Originally by: ZechsMerquise
The thing is, skills are the most vital thing about this game and the thing which stops running when you stop paying. If the server is going to be down for longer than expected it should be made VERY clear that it is going down. Not just a message in the news thing on login which I rarely read cause a) it is full of useless, meningless information most of the time unless you are a roleplayer and b) I normally just click my character straight away cause I wanna log in and play not read through pointless news items to find the one which is absolutely vital to my skills getting done.

It is not much to ask to be slightly better informed when this is going to happen imo.

Oh come mon, give me a break - this is bull****!
If you're too lazy to read 2-5 damn headlines then you don't deserve better.
Damn, how I hate people whining about each and every little **** just because they're too ignorant and/or lazy to read up on stuff.


- Crux Xibalba


QFT

I play very inconsistently, and I knew about this well in advance. Take 30 seconds to read the titles of the headlines, you don't need to read the storyline if you don't want to. I can't believe you're complaining about lack of notice when it's thrust in your face like it is. What do you suggest they do to make it more obvious? A personal phone call? Should they black out the screen and flash it for 30 seconds on startup?

Take some responsibility.

Frayle
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:43:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: GWB13
Originally by: Pottsey
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ďIt was Microsoft that broke it by removing DirectSound support in Vista.Ē
No it was CCP. Blaming Microsoft is just the lazy and easy solution.

All my other directsound games work in Vista via OpenAL and Eve did its self for over 6 months. CCP decided to announced a new sound engine thatís better then the old one and at the same time stopped hardware sound. Its wrong to announced a giant leap forward while your really making a giant step backwards.

It was CCP that stopped DirectSound in Vista working not Microsoft. CCP stopped us using directsound via OpenAL not Microsoft. Why blame Microsoft?

Whatís really irritating is itís a simple fix for CCP to do. They could let us use OpenAL again which is 10mins worth of work if that. All they need to do is white list 2 files which they put a ban on for no apparent reason. If there was a reason to ban useing OpenAL for hardware sound can they give it?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Rofl you use Vista. Come on man, you should know to wait 1 more year for Vista.



Yea i use Vista sure, my boot.ini was NOT modivied Twisted Evil


Neither was mine.. was there a point there somewhere? /ponder

Israel1
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:51:00 - [159]
 

I don't understand... can someone tell me if the patch is out already?

eRa5oR
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:53:00 - [160]
 

Implant Fix, lmao thats a laugh,
Ive personaly lost 3 lots of implants using jump clones, and yes I know how to use them.
All 3 events have been issues where the server has not updated logs or something and ive been returned to stations of which i should not have been etc.
Im sure u all know the story.
Each time you petittion and u get a nice helpful GM saying sorry be more careful we have no log of the loss occouring etc.

So now I no longer use implants or jump clones.
As im wasting more isk buying them than I am losing ships.

All the best with the Fixes CCP, but please make sure there fixed.

eRa5oR

Demetropulis
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:53:00 - [161]
 

The link to the patch is in Eve when you start up, it just hasn't been put on the server yet.

It's 5 megabytes.

Israel1
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:54:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Demetropulis
The link to the patch is in Eve when you start up, it just hasn't been put on the server yet.

It's 5 megabytes.


when I start the game? I don't get any link to the patch

Avyeal
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:56:00 - [163]
 

1600 GMT now till patch is over now, right? That's 11:00AM EST...I think?

MEEATYOU
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [164]
 

It should say

"There is a new patch available. Would you like to download it?

5.1MB

Simple as that.

No, it's not on the server yet so another 3 minutes 'till we can actually download and play.


Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars
S E D I T I O N
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [165]
 

its up, you can download the patch now.

AIB
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [166]
 

Premium patch - http://updates.eve-online.com/patches/patches.asp?s=&system=win&edition=premium&n=45017

Classic - http://updates.eve-online.com/patches/patches.asp?s=&system=win&edition=classic&n=45017

Frayle
Posted - 2007.12.18 15:58:00 - [167]
 

the patch is there now

MEEATYOU
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:01:00 - [168]
 

13 Players: Not accepting connections

WTF? Every f**king time CCP

What gives?


Lunathia
Gallente
The Solar Zenith Winds
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:01:00 - [169]
 

Edited by: Lunathia on 18/12/2007 16:01:49
relaunched client and patch started downloading

Transplatin
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:01:00 - [170]
 

Cluster not accepting connections??

Rocky Roid
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:02:00 - [171]
 

lol 16:30 now!

QwEEN AmiDaLa
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:02:00 - [172]
 

lol wth??

Frayle
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:02:00 - [173]
 

Yay! no more extensions.. now it's my favorite "The server is not accepting connections. We aren't telling you why, or for how long. HA HA HA"

NL Nataku
Manson Family
Corcoran State
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:03:00 - [174]
 

Set back to 16:30 ??

Pff my skill ended and i need to go away for atleast 2 hours.
Well not going to wait another 30 min i simply really have to go now.

WTB web interface where i can switch skills during downtime..

Greetz Nata

Fastercart
Gallente
Ornery Cantankerous Curmudgeons
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:04:00 - [175]
 

Edited by: Fastercart on 18/12/2007 16:04:45
As Nataku said:
Quote:
Trinity 1.0.1 patch deployment, the server will be up at 16:30 GMT.


Edit: Corrected Nataku's name.

MEEATYOU
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:05:00 - [176]
 

16:30?

CCP, I love EVE Online, But quit ****ing with ****.

If it aint broken, don't fix it.

PS: 30 day skill should cover any other "patches" CCP release


Frayle
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:06:00 - [177]
 

WTF... I am assuming that this occurred to them at the last second again. Some of us have some other **** we could be doing.

Tobias Prosimi
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:06:00 - [178]
 

Really 16.30?I'm still showing 15.00

Demetropulis
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:06:00 - [179]
 

And EVEMON keeps popping up with "The tranquility server is now online"

Yea thanks for that message. Rolling Eyes


So we have
15:00
16:00
16:30
??:??

Anyone?

eRa5oR
Posted - 2007.12.18 16:08:00 - [180]
 

showing 16:30 GMT here


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