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Wyldkeel
Dread Deep Space Exploration
Scelus Sceleris.
Posted - 2007.12.14 17:59:00 - [1]
 

Im getting a new laptop. But I want to play EVE, is eve on the mac bad? Give me your insight mac users

Deelron
Gallente
Posted - 2007.12.14 18:55:00 - [2]
 

If you are not considering running Boot Camp to play EVE in, then you'll probably be disappointed in the EVE client in comparison to how it runs on your current machine (assuming you have one that's not terribly old). The client is emulated, which results in non-optimal performance (even if it was perfect, which it certainly is not, particularly with the fairly wide reported crashing currently).

However, if you are going to run Boot Camp, then you really don't have to worry you can have it both ways if you're not satisfied with the EVE client on the Mac side. Just from personal experience, I've helped plenty of people switch and I've yet to have anyone that I've assisted tell me they were dissatisfied outside of the realm of games, but obviously if your primary concern is playing EVE, it's probably not the best way to go if you're not willing to boot into Windows to play EVE.

Nekopyat
Posted - 2007.12.14 19:22:00 - [3]
 

Outside the post-trinity muck and the earlier disconnect bug, I've found the OSX client quite playable and have been enjoying it. The graphics are not quite as pretty, but they are still better then my old XP box's so I've been pretty happy. I gather it also depends on what you do in-game. I do mining/trading/missions/ratting, so no PvP or fleet actions, which is where, I gather, the client has trouble keeping up.

As others will point out, you can always run bootcamp if EVE is the critical factor.

Lexi Luscious
Posted - 2007.12.14 19:49:00 - [4]
 

Get a MacBook PRO not a MacBook, the Pro has the graphics card you need, the MacBook has integrated graphics.

Cocoi
Minmatar
Subspace Anomaly
Posted - 2007.12.15 12:09:00 - [5]
 

Since I have ran EVE exclusively on my Macbook Pro (and I have done so since the first Macbook Pro and the first Boot Camp, after a month or 5 after that I closed my account, only to return with the Mac client) for the last few months, I would say it's fine choice; the latest build has had some annoying problems but there's a date on the patch (next Tuesday) - apart from those few issues, the game is very playable.

Don't expect jaw-dropping framerates due to the Cider wrapper, but if you ever need to do heavy fps-crucial fleet warfare it's painless to install Windows (more so with a Mac, since it'll eliminate your need to find the drivers) and run it from there. Otherwise, you'll find the Mac client does most you want it to do.

The comment in the above post is also relevant; although support for more intense graphics is in the works by Intel and Apple, the Macbook isn't yet the good choice for gaming (or EVE).





Lauredris Maru
Amarr
Lyrix Industries
Posted - 2007.12.17 03:02:00 - [6]
 

I've got a MacBook Pro (from what I hear, a plain MacBook won't cut it) and have been occasionally frustrated but mostly happy with the Mac EVE client. If you do a lot of PvP you'll probably want to set up a BootCamp partition, install XP, and reboot to play a "serious" game of EVE... at least, until the Mac client is fixed. Realistically, I'm betting it will be several months before they get the kinks out -- I'm hoping the Trinity "rich" update early next year-ish will be a solid, reliable release. Until then, I do most of my trading, training, buying, and mining on the Mac... and switch to XP if we're doing anything violent... Shocked

Brevven Dej
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.12.17 05:52:00 - [7]
 

I just finished my trial, and signed up for a real account all on a MacBook Pro. Currently there are the crash issues that others have mentioned. Some days I don't crash at all, other days a few times. If they don't fix this within a month or so, I will probably pause my account until they do, since at that point I'll be ready for some real PVP (:

As for the graphics and gameplay, I'm impressed. The fact that Cider/Cedaga runs so well is a testament to TransGaming (not to mention CCP). Moving from Windows you'll see a drop in quality, but not much. One gameplay issue is that you cannot use the command key for shortcuts. It's really not a big issue, but for a Mac user, it would be a nice thing to enable.

All in all as a Mac/Linux user, I'd say EVE on th emac is not bad, in fact it is basically good. If you want the Mac anyways for other reasons, go ahead. If you're buying this laptop as a portable game station, and only want the Mac for "style", think twice.

Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.12.17 06:09:00 - [8]
 

EVE was working fine with boot camp on macbook pro, but the mac client does experience way too many crashes. If you want to just log in and chat, manufacture, haul, invent, trade it's ok. But if you want to engage in pve or pvp it's way too unstable. I just jumped into a 0.9 system by mistake and got attacked by faction police and at that point my game crashed. I wouldn't recommend engaging in any kind of combat with mac client, but if you get boot camp you'll be able to run EVE fine in windows.

Ayr Chron
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.12.17 13:30:00 - [9]
 

the eve mac client, as of this moment, is unplayable.

it crashes every few minutes, unplayable in combat because if you engage, you're going to die and lose your ship most of the time.

i hope this serious bug get fixed with the tuesday patch, it's just not acceptable.

Phil trum
Posted - 2007.12.19 13:31:00 - [10]
 

Odd that one game would be your choice in macbook or not.

the updated mac client is alot better now. It hasnt crashed on me once. where as the pervious one would crash constantly on me.

pressurewave
Posted - 2007.12.19 14:36:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: pressurewave on 19/12/2007 14:38:25
I'll echo what some of the people are saying on here - if you're buying a mac solely to play eve, it won't seem like a very good investment at the moment, but in general the computers are fantastic. I figure, also, they'll be whipping the Mac client into shape sometime in the near future, so no worries about that, either... its just buggy because of the translation via Cider... at least thats what I think. The previous version had a long time to be tested/perfected, this one seems like it was "get it out, we'll fix it later."

So, anyway, about the computers... there's a lot of hoopla, really anti-PC or anti-Mac people out there that will argue up and down about elitism or lack of upgradability or expense or lack of stability or whatever, but the thing about Macs that makes them fantastic is that they let you get what you want to do done.

There's a learning curve if you've been all PC thus far (the structures are obviously different, different hot keys, different menus to do the same things, like security, installing software, editing configurations, networking, whatever), and that can be a little discouraging (I should qualify, I come from the POV of being all PC from about 1993 and my first 486 machine w/ Windows 3.x all the way until about 2004 when I got my first Mac, an iBook G4 lapotop)... but once you learn the Mac way of doing things, its nice. If your focus is on gaming, probably spend the money on a pretty fast PC (comparable financially), but if you want a computer that will be your main computer for the next 3 to 4 years or so and will be like a partner in crime and give you an irresistible urge to give it a name, go for the Mac.

Cocoi
Minmatar
Subspace Anomaly
Posted - 2007.12.19 20:57:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: pressurewave
Edited by: pressurewave on 19/12/2007 14:38:25
I'll echo what some of the people are saying on here - if you're buying a mac solely to play eve, it won't seem like a very good investment at the moment, but in general the computers are fantastic. I figure, also, they'll be whipping the Mac client into shape sometime in the near future, so no worries about that, either... its just buggy because of the translation via Cider... at least thats what I think. The previous version had a long time to be tested/perfected, this one seems like it was "get it out, we'll fix it later."

So, anyway, about the computers... there's a lot of hoopla, really anti-PC or anti-Mac people out there that will argue up and down about elitism or lack of upgradability or expense or lack of stability or whatever, but the thing about Macs that makes them fantastic is that they let you get what you want to do done.

There's a learning curve if you've been all PC thus far (the structures are obviously different, different hot keys, different menus to do the same things, like security, installing software, editing configurations, networking, whatever), and that can be a little discouraging (I should qualify, I come from the POV of being all PC from about 1993 and my first 486 machine w/ Windows 3.x all the way until about 2004 when I got my first Mac, an iBook G4 lapotop)... but once you learn the Mac way of doing things, its nice. If your focus is on gaming, probably spend the money on a pretty fast PC (comparable financially), but if you want a computer that will be your main computer for the next 3 to 4 years or so and will be like a partner in crime and give you an irresistible urge to give it a name, go for the Mac.


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Telekon
Posted - 2007.12.19 21:59:00 - [13]
 

If you are seriously thinking about buying a Mac, you might want to wait until after Macworld next month, just in case any relevant products are introduced.

I'm always hoping for a midrange Mac, something like a Mac Mini with decent 3D graphics support.

Carleil
Posted - 2007.12.20 01:34:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Carleil on 22/12/2007 01:56:36
I would wait until January, when the new Macbook Touch is scheduled to debut.

It will literally be a magnificent piece of work. What is known for sure on AppleInsider.com is that Macs are getting huge updates in January. If you get one for Christmas you're gonna be kicking yourself later in 20 days.

The game is good for some on Mac OS X, but for me, not very good. I know in perhaps a few months they will fix things solid, and for me that's fine. I'm gonna wait until then to resubscribe. My friend is changing my skills until my account expires.

Transgaming has been there for me on Linux with other games, and its not bad, but at the moment its pretty horrid. I think its mainly b/c of lack of testing on patches. They just aren't doing it I think. Or not ENOUGH of it. Test servers are there for a reason and that's why Blizzard and other MMO companies have their super hardcore audiences - if there is one here I'm sure there is - test it there for 90 days straight.

72 hours later: the game is operating ok on a Mac fyi. No problems.


 

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