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Edwin Salvo
Posted - 2007.12.13 04:09:00 - [1]
 

I'm looking at a new laptop. I'm thinking of a Mac, but wow what a premium price to pay.

Question is this -- the x3100 seems a decent card. One of my PC's has ATI 7500 which gets like 100 3dmark 2003 points and runs Eve okay, but not for pvp. My other PC is amd 4000+ /6600GT which gets very good fps in Eve.

So I can get the Macbook pro which would play Eve very well under bootcamp, or I can get a Macbook for about $600 less which has the x3100 gpu. The x3100 gpu seems to get 1700 3dmark 2003 score. My gut says under bootcamp, Eve would be just fine on the X3100.


Anyone actually doing this and can confirm?

Lebastor
Minmatar
Hidden Agenda
Posted - 2007.12.13 09:34:00 - [2]
 

I can confirm - Classic EVE works fine in Bootcamp.

You should consider also installing Vista on bootcamp. Intel has published new beta drivers that support Shader 3.0. There are some problems with priemium (all ships are just black holes with light :) so the beta is not quite working yet.

One special problem exists. Apple forgot about the trackpad right-click button in final Bootcamp (it was working in pre-Leopard Beta) so you need to have an external mouse :)

The Mac-client does not work atm in the Santa Rosa Macbook (altough it was somewhat working in the previous model) But maybe after Apple/Intel publish a driver where the known 3d-gaming problems have been fixed and/or Transgaming fixes the other bugs in the client, you would be able to play that too!




Edwin Salvo
Posted - 2007.12.13 16:02:00 - [3]
 

I'm new to the Mac world so help me out please..

The Santa Rosa Macbook isn't supported (Eve doesn't work) when it's running Windows via Bootcamp?

Also -- why are you recommending Vista? I would also like to play some other games. On an X3100 I wouldn't be playing cutting edge games, so we're talking things like CoV, BF2, and such. From what I've read, Vista struggles with older games and many gamers are installing XP.


Arcon Telf
Gallente
N0 APOLOGY
Controlled Chaos
Posted - 2007.12.13 16:07:00 - [4]
 

If you want to play any games - including Eve - doing it on a Macbook, even under Bootcamp, is asking for trouble. Really. Spend the money on a MBP if you need a laptop. If a desktop will work, the iMac can't be beat. You get what you pay for. Wink

Agguire
Posted - 2007.12.13 18:19:00 - [5]
 

Eve runs okay under boot camp with xp on a Macbook. Big fleet battles and stuff probably not that great. But it definitly runs better than the mac client on a Macbook. That being said if I was buying a Mac laptop today I would get a Macbook Pro so I could use the Mac client or switch to book camp and use the better graphics card.

Edwin Salvo
Posted - 2007.12.13 19:32:00 - [6]
 

Ok, thanks. I just placed my order for the Macbook pro -- got the lowend model (can't tell that by the price.) 2.2Ghz dual core with the 8600GT M DDR3 128MB.

Dell has their XPS 1530 which is very comparable for $800 less than the Mac -- more graphics memory, but same card. But I'm fed up with Windows issues.

I enjoyed computers back in the Commodore days. Lately, I spend more time fighting bad drivers or DLL conflicts or bad hardware than I do tinkering around, programming, and using the computer to do actual work. Hopefully Apple will bring me back to enjoying computers.

Impericus
Posted - 2007.12.14 08:25:00 - [7]
 

Congratulation, once you get hang of the OSX you will not want to go back to windows. I was a die hard windows user since Windows 1.1 (yes 1.1) and in january after a whole day of issues i just got fed up with XP. I went into the nearest Mac dealer and got the MBP. What i found out is that the OSX is easer on the network, finds printer and other stuff much easer than windows and it just increases your workflow, period.

Im now adding a Mac Pro, stationary. This would be unthinkable for me a year ago.

welcome to the club Smile

Kashmar Akichu
Caldari
The Nietzschean Empire
Posted - 2007.12.17 23:20:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Impericus
Congratulation, once you get hang of the OSX you will not want to go back to windows. I was a die hard windows user since Windows 1.1 (yes 1.1) and in january after a whole day of issues i just got fed up with XP. I went into the nearest Mac dealer and got the MBP. What i found out is that the OSX is easer on the network, finds printer and other stuff much easer than windows and it just increases your workflow, period.

Im now adding a Mac Pro, stationary. This would be unthinkable for me a year ago.

welcome to the club Smile


I got my first Mac when I started at uni.. A friend helped me get started with the software needed to got things done (MacTheRipper, Handbrake, Adium etc) and now I'm more on my "crappy" MacBook 2GHz than on my AMD 2.4GHz w/ 4GB RAM and a GeForce 7950GT.. For EVE I'm still mostly on my stationary PC due to the GMA950 GPU om my MacBook simply isn't enough, but I hope I can buy a MacBook Pro next year.

Mac IS awesome, but it really helps to have a friend who can help get you started. Things can seem a bit weird in the beginning.

helicoil
Posted - 2007.12.20 19:09:00 - [9]
 

I'm running Eve classic on a MacBook under Bootcamp and XP and it seems to run well enough. The only thing I have noticed is occasionally some rendering problems with my ship after warp (i think you mention similar above) but I hit the "reset camera" button and it clears up.
The fans do spin up somewhat... but they do when I play Americas Army so I guess the mac is just working hard when gaming ;-)
I also play the mac version under Leopard but it really does crash it's **** off, varying from dropping out into Finder to complete machine lock-ups -although having said that... the new update is a little more stable but still well buggy.
I'm gonna try an external Tiger boot disc at some point as I seem to remember someone saying it's worth a try.
For me, at the moment, the best "Eve experience" is booting into XP and running Classic

My MacBook is the mid 2007 model, 2Ghz and 2Gb ram running 10.5.1

I was fortunate enough to qualify for the HE discount and ended up paying 601 (+ 40 for 3rd party ram upgrade) and got 3yrs warranty aswell. At the time a similar deal RRP would have been about 850 quid so I was well happy! ;-)


 

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