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dastommy79
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas.
Posted - 2007.12.10 01:16:00 - [331]
 

i hear K:D ratio is very important?



Snowden Vel
Minmatar
GoonFleet
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.12.10 05:04:00 - [332]
 

Originally by: HankMurphy

why... the only way we could have done any worse would be to just roll over and join the ragoons the moment they put a tower in one of our systems.



Math time, kids! Let's calculate this in units of shame!

First fact: losing your space is almost but not quite as shameful as changing sides:

Calculation: .9 units of shame per loss of space < 1 unit of shame per side change

Second fact: RISE have lost their space three times:

Calculation: 3 losses x .9 units of shame/loss = 2.7 RISE units of shame

Third fact: KOS have switched sides once:

Calculation: 1 KOS switch x 1 unit of shame/switch = 1 KOS unit of shame

Fourth fact: RISE is still a laughingstock.

Proof: 2.7 > 1

This is by your own numbers, Hank.

Angelus Damelon
Gallente
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.10 05:36:00 - [333]
 

Originally by: Snowden Vel
Originally by: HankMurphy

why... the only way we could have done any worse would be to just roll over and join the ragoons the moment they put a tower in one of our systems.



Math time, kids! Let's calculate this in units of shame!

First fact: losing your space is almost but not quite as shameful as changing sides:

Calculation: .9 units of shame per loss of space < 1 unit of shame per side change

Second fact: RISE have lost their space three times:

Calculation: 3 losses x .9 units of shame/loss = 2.7 RISE units of shame

Third fact: KOS have switched sides once:

Calculation: 1 KOS switch x 1 unit of shame/switch = 1 KOS unit of shame

Fourth fact: RISE is still a laughingstock.

Proof: 2.7 > 1

This is by your own numbers, Hank.


6b/month protection money that bought no actual protection should probably factor in there somewhere just sayin

HankMurphy
Minmatar
Pelennor Swarm
Posted - 2007.12.10 05:59:00 - [334]
 

i see your posts and raise you another.

Originally by: Nlewis

not only does rise fail at this game. they also fail at the english language


Originally by: Factor Benz
have been allowed to take your **** to empire and even that's debateable. Dellusional to the end, you go boy.


****, now everyone will know benz is my alt Embarassed

oh, and i think English is supposed to be capitalized?



and where the **** are my flippin turtles?


Calimor
Caldari
GK inc.
Posted - 2007.12.10 07:23:00 - [335]
 

http://www.eve-maps.com/outpostalert/alliancerank.asp?Sov=ON

Can someone tell me where did R i s e go to?

DaiTengu
Gallente
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.10 09:32:00 - [336]
 

Edited by: DaiTengu on 10/12/2007 09:33:19
HEY GUYS OUR K:D RATIO IS GREAT! WE HAVE A GREAT K:D RATIO! WE DID LOTS OF DAMAGE TO OUR ENEMIES! OUR ENEMIES HAVE NO HONOUR! THEY SUCK AND HAVE A BAD K:D RATIO

OUR K:D RATIO!

K:D RATIO!

K:D


OH BY THE WAY WE'RE EVACUATING TO FOUNTAIN BECAUSE OUR K:D RATIO IS SO GREAT.

ALSO WE LOST 2/3 OF OUR MEMBERS BECAUSE OUR K:D IS GREAT.

OUR K:D RATIO

K:D RATIO

K:D

Rolling Eyes


The OP shows exactly what kind of sad state Rise is in.

Sorcerror
Minmatar
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.12.10 12:46:00 - [337]
 

i got meaning of the OP :
"we suck, but not so much"

The Bandid
Amarr
The Bandids
Posted - 2007.12.10 12:58:00 - [338]
 

Edited by: The Bandid on 10/12/2007 13:00:27
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: Rilewedge
Rise lost Feythabolis after 10 months of hard fighting.


More like 10 months of PL, RA, Goon BlackOps, etc AFKing in RIT.


Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid

Nlewis
Caldari
Nomad LLP
Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
Posted - 2007.12.10 13:24:00 - [339]
 

Edited by: Nlewis on 10/12/2007 13:25:03
Originally by: HankMurphy
i see your posts and raise you another.

Originally by: Nlewis

not only does rise fail at this game. they also fail at the english language


Originally by: Factor Benz
have been allowed to take your **** to empire and even that's debateable. Dellusional to the end, you go boy.


****, now everyone will know benz is my alt Embarassed

oh, and i think English is supposed to be capitalized?



and where the **** are my flippin turtles?




I would rather someone spell debatable or delusional, THAN MISSPELL SOMETHING AS EASY AS LOSE. my capitalization in no way hinders your ability to read my post.

Originally by: The Bandid


My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid



hhahahaahhahahaha

Kriger
Caldari
Old Farts Rest Home
Posted - 2007.12.10 13:41:00 - [340]
 

Originally by: Sorcerror
i got meaning of the OP :
"we suck, but not so much"


yeah RISE.. listen to the man.. goons are the pinnacle of sucking (swallows n all) so they'd know..

Nlewis
Caldari
Nomad LLP
Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
Posted - 2007.12.10 13:51:00 - [341]
 

Originally by: Kriger
Originally by: Sorcerror
i got meaning of the OP :
"we suck, but not so much"


yeah RISE.. listen to the man.. goons are the pinnacle of sucking (swallows n all) so they'd know..


I hear you give good bjs

Nekumi
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.12.10 14:01:00 - [342]
 

How many times does it take for a group of people to get smacked around and laughed at to learn some self respect and a modicum of dignity?

Tune in next time at a RISE thread near you.

Lunas Feelgood
Gallente
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.12.10 14:14:00 - [343]
 

Originally by: The Bandid
Edited by: The Bandid on 10/12/2007 13:00:27
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: Rilewedge
Rise lost Feythabolis after 10 months of hard fighting.


More like 10 months of PL, RA, Goon BlackOps, etc AFKing in RIT.


Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


Seriously are you on drugs?????

Kriger
Caldari
Old Farts Rest Home
Posted - 2007.12.10 14:21:00 - [344]
 

Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Kriger


yeah RISE.. listen to the man.. goons are the pinnacle of sucking (swallows n all) so they'd know..


I hear you give good bjs


thats ur sister..

Nlewis
Caldari
Nomad LLP
Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:00:00 - [345]
 

Originally by: Kriger
Originally by: Nlewis
Originally by: Kriger


yeah RISE.. listen to the man.. goons are the pinnacle of sucking (swallows n all) so they'd know..


I hear you give good bjs


thats ur sister..


Sorry dude, only child.

Sathrai
Caldari
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:38:00 - [346]
 

hey so I heard that back before RISE moved out of Outer Ring, they told themselves that they had to kick the local plex-farming corp out of the old Serpentis 10/10 in A2V there

and if they couldn't deal with a group of a half-dozen characters or so then it would prove that they weren't ready for sovereign 0.0

they never removed that plex-farming corp and it didn't leave until some Russians moved in and forced them out so RISE had nothing to do with it

c/d?

Fallen Buckshot
Amarr
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:46:00 - [347]
 

Originally by: Sathrai
hey so I heard that back before RISE moved out of Outer Ring, they told themselves that they had to kick the local plex-farming corp out of the old Serpentis 10/10 in A2V there

and if they couldn't deal with a group of a half-dozen characters or so then it would prove that they weren't ready for sovereign 0.0

they never removed that plex-farming corp and it didn't leave until some Russians moved in and forced them out so RISE had nothing to do with it

c/d?
Actualy it was Bob Alts faming that plex .. and Rise didnt want Bob coming down on them for disrupting it ..i dunno about any russians forcing them out ?

Sathrai
Caldari
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:50:00 - [348]
 

Edited by: Sathrai on 10/12/2007 15:57:46
Originally by: Fallen Buckshot
Actualy it was Bob Alts faming that plex .. and Rise didnt want Bob coming down on them for disrupting it ..i dunno about any russians forcing them out ?

No, they weren't BoB alts. They were paying per-run rent to BoB, yes (originally he was going independent but EVOL came by and smacked his **** up, hence the arrangement), but they were their own thing otherwise. I actually know the guy who was doing it.

And yeah, eventually he just more or less left because the Russian team was causing him too many hassles in classic Russian plex-team style (i.e. unlimited escalation of force until the current owning party cannot cope). Wasn't a huge deal because he had sunk tons of that isk he had made from the plexing into t2 BPOs and, later, invention infrastructure. He went on to take a lead pipe to the Hulk market after they fixed invention for them, and now he just sorta lazes about with his countless billions of isk finding new and creative ways to grief people in empire.

One man, his girlfriend, and their alts. RISE couldn't handle them.

SunglassesInSpace
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:57:00 - [349]
 

Originally by: The Bandid
Edited by: The Bandid on 10/12/2007 13:00:27
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: Rilewedge
Rise lost Feythabolis after 10 months of hard fighting.


More like 10 months of PL, RA, Goon BlackOps, etc AFKing in RIT.


Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


that, sir, was an excellent fakepost

Bigeasy
Caldari
It's A Trap
Posted - 2007.12.10 15:58:00 - [350]
 

Originally by: Sathrai
and now he just sorta lazes about with his countless billions of isk finding new and creative ways to grief people in empire.


Sounds like a time and a half...Rolling Eyes

Sathrai
Caldari
EXTERMINATUS.
Nulli Secunda
Posted - 2007.12.10 16:04:00 - [351]
 

Edited by: Sathrai on 10/12/2007 16:05:12
Originally by: Bigeasy
Originally by: Sathrai
and now he just sorta lazes about with his countless billions of isk finding new and creative ways to grief people in empire.


Sounds like a time and a half...Rolling Eyes

BoB's fate in the long run c/d? YARRRR!! I'd go post some of the RISE logs about "oh noes we must drive out the a2v isk farmers", but they're on my home system and I'm currently typing this from a hotel room. If I remember when I get home, I'll try to go dredge them up - looks like they're dated around mid-December '06.

Anyways, moral of the story for the slow - last Christmas RISE told themselves that if they couldn't deal with a half-dozen characters running one of the plexes in their space, they weren't fit for the 0.0 big time. They then proceeded to fail miserably at removing said characters, went on to Feyth...and lo, their initial prophecy came so very, very true.

Lyric Cal
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2007.12.10 23:15:00 - [352]
 

Edited by: Lyric Cal on 10/12/2007 23:15:48
Originally by: Nekumi
How many times does it take for a group of people to get smacked around and laughed at to learn some self respect and a modicum of dignity?



Rolling Eyes

The Bandid
Amarr
The Bandids
Posted - 2007.12.11 00:24:00 - [353]
 

Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
Originally by: The Bandid
Edited by: The Bandid on 10/12/2007 13:00:27
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: Rilewedge
Rise lost Feythabolis after 10 months of hard fighting.


More like 10 months of PL, RA, Goon BlackOps, etc AFKing in RIT.


Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


that, sir, was an excellent fakepost


No sir it was reality, hard to admit is it ? in the end u might win, but in the beginning u lost allways every single attack, later when outblobbing Rise u still needed several months.

KorsiKhan
Minmatar
Esoteria Liberation Front
Posted - 2007.12.11 00:27:00 - [354]
 


General Tsao
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.12.11 00:32:00 - [355]
 

Originally by: The Bandid

Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


Obvious troll

Taram Caldar
Caldari
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
Warped Aggression
Posted - 2007.12.11 00:46:00 - [356]
 

Edited by: Taram Caldar on 11/12/2007 00:51:27
Edit: To clean up the edit mess :)

TBQFH RISE's biggest problems had nothing to do with their ability to PVP. When RISE could get organized they put up a very good fight. The problem was directly due to the nature of the way RISE is run, decisions came from the top only very very slowly. Half the time the membership didn't know what was going on and people got demoralized by that. Hell even some of the FC's didn't know what was going on half the time. They'd get fed answers that "there is a plan, have faith" meanwhile almost no ops were announced or planned by the 'recognized" FC list of FC's and wmost of the few that were got cancelled, often with no advance notice. So RISE was limited mostly to ad-hoc ops run by various pilots who had the nuts to stand up and start a fleet.

Unfortunately half the pilots in RISE wouldn't dot up for anyone unless they knew them so those fleets were always small and took quite a bit of time to form and other than a few notable exceptions were largely ineffective because while RISE had the numbers online to do something not enough people would form up. Occasionally they would get enough pilots but it would take so long that goons, PL and friends had more than enough time to bring in reinforcements so that even if RISE did get enough pilots together in a fleet to chase the 25 PL guys around a 40-60 man fleet would show up within a few minutes and shut everything down again. You cannot run a large 0.0 alliance as a democracy. It never results in a strong central leadership and always leads to internal disputes and lack of direction especially when times get tough. When everything is going smoothly and there's no real need for fast decisions it's ok. But when times are tough and situations need quick decisive action is not the time to discuss things in a committee.

You also can't have a list of recognized "FC's" who are never online and plan ops so rarely that it was a running joke within the PVP community in RISE.

NOTE: I do not say this as a member of KIA. I say this as a former member of RISE.

Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.12.11 00:50:00 - [357]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
Edited by: Taram Caldar on 11/12/2007 00:47:00
TBQFH RISE's biggest problems had nothing to do with their ability to PVP. When RISE could get organized they put up a very good fight. The problem was directly due to the nature of the way RISE is run, decisions came from the top only very very slowly. Half the time the membership didn't know what was going on and people got demoralized by that. Hell even some of the FC's didn't know what was going on half the time. They'd get fed answers that "there is a plan, have faith" meanwhile almost no ops were announced or planned by the 'recognized" FC list of FC's and wmost of the few that were got cancelled, often with no advance notice. So RISE was limited mostly to ad-hoc ops run by various pilots who had the nuts to stand up and start a fleet.

Unfortunately half the pilots in RISE wouldn't dot up for anyone unless they knew them so those fleets were always small and took quite a bit of time to form and other than a few notable exceptions were largely ineffective because while RISE had the numbers online to do something not enough people would form up. Occasionally they would get enough pilots but it would take so long that goons, PL and friends had more than enough time to bring in reinforcements so that even if RISE did get enough pilots together in a fleet to chase the 25 PL guys around a 40-60 man fleet would show up within a few minutes and shut everything down again. You cannot run a large 0.0 alliance as a democracy. It never results in a strong central leadership and always leads to internal disputes and lack of direction.

You also can't have a list of recognized "FC's" who are never online and plan ops so rarely that it was a running joke within the PVP community in RISE.

NOTE: I do not say this as a member of KIA. I say this as a former member of RISE.


I could add more, but this is pretty darn accurate right here. Care more about who posts on the forums then playing the game tbqfh.

SunglassesInSpace
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.11 01:15:00 - [358]
 

Originally by: The Bandid
Originally by: SunglassesInSpace
Originally by: The Bandid
Edited by: The Bandid on 10/12/2007 13:00:27
Originally by: Alexander Knott
Originally by: Rilewedge
Rise lost Feythabolis after 10 months of hard fighting.


More like 10 months of PL, RA, Goon BlackOps, etc AFKing in RIT.


Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


that, sir, was an excellent fakepost


No sir it was reality, hard to admit is it ? in the end u might win, but in the beginning u lost allways every single attack, later when outblobbing Rise u still needed several months.



ok it's true and i still cry myself to sleep about it

Gneeznow
Minmatar
Ship spinners inc
Posted - 2007.12.11 02:00:00 - [359]
 

Originally by: Taram Caldar
But when times are tough and situations need quick decisive action is not the time to discuss things in a committee.


quoting this for emphasis, it was Rise's biggest problem from what i understood of the situation.

Viktor Konstantine
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.12.11 02:16:00 - [360]
 

Originally by: The Bandid

Lol u came with 30 u went back to home with 10 pods end of story, Goons were never good pvpers and they will never be, only with ure friends u have balls nonetheless keep on dreaming !

This is when u tried and have a look around in RIT u came with some newbie ships, after several months when u brought ure friends cause u couldnt beat Rise real fightings occured. If u talk bs talk bs with facts, Goons alone are nothing thats why u had to bring ure friends over,

My deepest respect to Rise i never thought u would hold out so long.....
Keep on doing what u are doing ure a great alliance

bandid


Your desperate attempts at coherency are falling short. The 'post' box even gives you some angry red lines so you know what's wrong with your words.

Also, your alliance is feigning relevancy by ganking goons who are stupid enough to still live in Scalding Pass, and it's laughable that you would presume to hold a candle to the alliance as a whole when you're only experience fighting goons is people carebearing it up. Feel free to come to Catch though, we'll see how it goes for you.


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