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Joensen
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:06:00 - [241]
 

Edited by: Joensen on 07/12/2007 02:08:38
Originally by: Gosh Krux
Edited by: Gosh Krux on 07/12/2007 00:44:52
4 Quick thoughts:
1) Partitions are your friends.
2) Reimbursement for what? The free expansion? The 10 mins it takes to fix this issue?
3) It helps to pay attention to patching details.
4) Newsflash: this just in, programs have a way of having bugs and having this sort of thing happen. Only way to prevent it is to pack your computer in a box and never touch it again. This is 500x true if your the type of person to be first to a game/patch/expansion/etc, it should be somewhat expected.

I'm in no way a ccp fanboi, I merely think all this ZOMG THE SKY IS FALLING over a misplaced "\" is slightly funny. I feel bad for those who had to do some work to fix their rig, mild humor at the people demanding compensation, and full-on rofl'ing at those who take their rig to geek zone.



I agree.

Oh an by the way, human beings make mistakes. This is most definately not the end of the world. There are some serious over reactions going on here.

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:11:00 - [242]
 

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: Sal Alo

3. CCP, specially in last months, have listening to costumers like no other company have ever done, with a lot of developers posts. This mean a lot to me. Actually "CCP GOOD THINGS" list > "CPP BIG FAULTS" list else you can have my stuff.



Oh, please list some of those GOOD THINGS they've done recently after listening to their customers...




Like so the hundreds of whiners who complain to CCP to nerf something, they do, which sets off the opposite side of whiners about said nerf?

Although there is specifically the case of when Sarmaul made a suggestion to the Khanid based ships everyone was whining about and they implemented it.


37 pages telling ccp not to nerf carriers. CCP is hell bent on nerfing carriers. CCP is not here to serve us, they are here to serve them selves.

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:12:00 - [243]
 

Originally by: Joensen
Edited by: Joensen on 07/12/2007 02:08:38
Originally by: Gosh Krux
Edited by: Gosh Krux on 07/12/2007 00:44:52
4 Quick thoughts:
1) Partitions are your friends.
2) Reimbursement for what? The free expansion? The 10 mins it takes to fix this issue?
3) It helps to pay attention to patching details.
4) Newsflash: this just in, programs have a way of having bugs and having this sort of thing happen. Only way to prevent it is to pack your computer in a box and never touch it again. This is 500x true if your the type of person to be first to a game/patch/expansion/etc, it should be somewhat expected.

I'm in no way a ccp fanboi, I merely think all this ZOMG THE SKY IS FALLING over a misplaced "\" is slightly funny. I feel bad for those who had to do some work to fix their rig, mild humor at the people demanding compensation, and full-on rofl'ing at those who take their rig to geek zone.



I agree.

Oh an by the way, human beings make mistakes. This is most definately not the end of the world. There are some serious over reactions going on here.



You both need to understand there are tons of people who dont even know how what a boot.ini is, let alone how to fix it. Plenty of people probaly dont even know it was related to eve, and just assume the computer went to ****.

You need to grow up.

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:12:00 - [244]
 

alt post is alt

Troye
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:15:00 - [245]
 

Originally by: SnakeByte86


You both need to understand there are tons of people who dont even know how what a boot.ini is, let alone how to fix it. Plenty of people probaly dont even know it was related to eve, and just assume the computer went to ****.

You need to grow up.


Hes an alt but he has a point, a knowledge of computers and their operating system files shouldnt need to be a nesesity for playing a game.

shortattenionsp
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:16:00 - [246]
 

Edited by: shortattenionsp on 07/12/2007 02:17:45
Edited by: shortattenionsp on 07/12/2007 02:17:08
They want $100 to repair something that can be fixed in 2 minutes by reading a forum post? Tell the geek squad to go f**k themselves and stop ripping people off.

Honestly I have no sympathy for someone who doesn't back their stuff up. I am amazed how many people still gleefully skip though "wee computers never ever break" land and think nothing can go wrong. People still fail degrees, courses, interviews, whatever because of this and their inability to plan for anything. Hard disks fail, they get virus's, spyware, files corrupt, whatever, computers die all the time. Yup, CCP screwed up big time, no one will deny that, but so did all the people that need to get a clue about computers and actually learn to value the data they cry so hard about once its gone.


Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:17:00 - [247]
 

thats the beauty, it isnt!

its only necessary for turning them on, which is precisely as it should be

I mean, you dont give someone a liscence if they cant figure out how to put gas in the tank Laughing

Calhun Brutori
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:18:00 - [248]
 

Mmm... I remember the time I was fighting with Norton Security Suite installation that had, at the expiration of its license, managed to completely cripple the computer as it repeatedly 'removed' itself from the system and force-rebooted it, spawning giant temp files until the harddrive was full.

THAT was a hard problem to fix (it 'protected' its main files and I couldn't just reformat without getting the data out first since it was business, and 'vital' email information), took me good two days of constant work to get it sorted out.

I (or the company) didn't get any compensation from Norton.

This is a ten minute fix, as stated. Even if you can't get online (closest internet cafe?) the first thing on boot problem would be to put the OS cd in the tray and try to do a restore from there...

Then again, computer techs love to jerk people around (And who charges $100/hour? I want to get into that business, man...), I know, I used to be one...

Not that getting a couple of free days (again) as compensation on accounts wouldn't please me. :) But let's wait a moment and let CCP decide on how they're going to sort the issue, and then flame over that, shall we?

mishkof
Caldari
Dirty Denizens
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:20:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Tortun Nahme
thats the beauty, it isnt!

its only necessary for turning them on, which is precisely as it should be

I mean, you dont give someone a liscence if they cant figure out how to put gas in the tank Laughing


Yeah I know. ******s.

I failed my first 2 drivers tests because I forgot how to replace my alternator.


SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:23:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: Troye
Originally by: SnakeByte86


You both need to understand there are tons of people who dont even know how what a boot.ini is, let alone how to fix it. Plenty of people probaly dont even know it was related to eve, and just assume the computer went to ****.

You need to grow up.


Hes an alt but he has a point, a knowledge of computers and their operating system files shouldnt need to be a nesesity for playing a game.


Why the hell do people keep saying i am an alt. Look me up in game, im not a freaking alt.

Gosh Krux
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:26:00 - [251]
 

Originally by: Troye
Originally by: SnakeByte86


You both need to understand there are tons of people who dont even know how what a boot.ini is, let alone how to fix it. Plenty of people probaly dont even know it was related to eve, and just assume the computer went to ****.

You need to grow up.


Hes an alt but he has a point, a knowledge of computers and their operating system files shouldnt need to be a nesesity for playing a game.


And you missed my point apparently. Very Happy

Point: Computers and the software you install on them ARE NOT 100% STABLE, this is a fact. Being one of the very first to try something new, ie a new expansion in an mmo, are at HIGHER risk to have issues come up, this too is a well known fact.

The concept that a patch screw up from within the first 4 hours, that deletes 1 file that it shouldn't have, is somehow a call for compensation, is simply ludicrous. ugh

Yes I agree that you shouldn't have to know the inner working of a computer backwards and forward to play a game. BUT, you should understand the risks involved in being the first to try something hot of the presses, and take some precautions to prevent things like this happening. They should also have a windows disk on hand that would quickly fix this issue, as accidently deleting the boot.ini file is not unique to an eve patch.

Being a computer guru? Not needed. Being aware of the situation and maybe having more computer skills that driving a mouse for brand new patches? Would help. Crying wolf when something doesn't go 100% correctly right away? Plain silly.

And I will always laugh at people dumb enough to pay companies like Geek Squad and MicroCenter who specialize in charging simply ******ed prices for the simplest of issues. They are rip off artists and anyone silly enough to not google their issue before laying down 100 bucks for a 30 second fix, is, and will always be funny to me. Laughing

I'm not an alt, I'm a newbie.

Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Umbra Synergy
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:27:00 - [252]
 

because it honks you off? ALT

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:27:00 - [253]
 

Originally by: shortattenionsp
Edited by: shortattenionsp on 07/12/2007 02:17:45
Edited by: shortattenionsp on 07/12/2007 02:17:08
They want $100 to repair something that can be fixed in 2 minutes by reading a forum post? Tell the geek squad to go f**k themselves and stop ripping people off.

Honestly I have no sympathy for someone who doesn't back their stuff up. I am amazed how many people still gleefully skip though "wee computers never ever break" land and think nothing can go wrong. People still fail degrees, courses, interviews, whatever because of this and their inability to plan for anything. Hard disks fail, they get virus's, spyware, files corrupt, whatever, computers die all the time. Yup, CCP screwed up big time, no one will deny that, but so did all the people that need to get a clue about computers and actually learn to value the data they cry so hard about once its gone.




Places charge that must, flat rate, just to come to your house, then the hourly kicks in.

People should not be expected to be able to fix computers. not everyone can fix cars, not everyone can fix the plumbing, not everyone can fix their lawnmower.

You need a clue. The world is not filled with egotistical E-peen waving geeks like you.

Plain and simple, TONS of people do not have 2 computers, tons of people do not have recovery disks, tons of people don't have boot disk and floppy's standing by. I know how to fix the problem, I did fix the problem, but i fi had to reboot, i would have been screwed for a day or more, because i do not have a floppy to install my RAID drivers.

Get a clue, Shut the mouth, Learn to respect other human beings.

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:28:00 - [254]
 

Edited by: Solomon XI on 07/12/2007 02:32:09
I would like to say for the record that CCP is no liable for any damages caused by this bug in their coding. They're protected by the EULA.

That being said.

I do believe CCP should compensate those of us who experienced this problem. Not all of us are as computer savvy as everyone else. You can't expect every computer user out there to know how to fix this issue. I didn't know how to and ended up doing a full restore of my system.

I would personally like to see CCP attempt to make this situation right but in a very creative way. Maybe they could put 1B isk into the accounts of those who were effected by this. Or MAYBE they could turn every rat spawn (in high-sec and low-sec) into a faction spawn for the next week. Or maybe they could even give us a month or two of free game time.

I forgive CCP for what happened. At least, to an extent. I'm still amazed that they didn't catch this before the patch was released. Sure, it was released four hours early. I just spent four hours repairing my PC because of this.

CCP, please make this right. I implore you. Be creative and figure out an appropriate way to fix this situation (in which, you yourselves caused).

Edit: To those of you who say you have no sympathy, let me say this. I only have one hard-drive and don't understand how to do 'partitions' very well. I use an external for my backup purposes. However, my external is full. I do not have the money to buy a second drive or another external at this time. I lost around 30GB worth of content that is going to take me some time to replace. So yes, you may be a computer guru. You may know how to fix this problem in under thirty-seconds. Good for you. I didn't (I do now) and so I have been royally screwed.


Empyre
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:31:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: SnakeByte86
You both need to understand there are tons of people who dont even know how what a boot.ini is, let alone how to fix it. Plenty of people probaly dont even know it was related to eve, and just assume the computer went to ****.

You need to grow up.


i sympathize (a little), but computers are complicated. it's not the people that are less knowledgable that disgust me, it's the people who approach what has happened with 'you lying stupid fools ccp i'm going to sue give me money you suck and i'll make a hundred threads about it in the process of complaining about it instead of asking someone and figuring out how to fix it'

if you don't figure out how to fix it on your own and don't understand that crap happens sometimes with computers anyway, then don't be surprised to feel helpless when something goes wrong. i've been using computers for literally decades and there has always been the possibility that something goes wrong somewhere sometimes and more than once, no matter how 'advanced' they get.

if you can't keep from flipping out and acting like an idiot every time something goes wrong then turn off your computer, sell it on ebay and never buy one again until you understand this.

ps. you can find an internet cafe and pay less than a few bucks for an hour, which is enough to research how to fix your problem. so that arguement about 'i HAD to take it to geek squad' is ridiculous.

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:32:00 - [256]
 

Originally by: Solomon XI
I would like to say for the record that CCP is no liable for any damages caused by this bug in their coding. They're protected by the EULA.

That being said.

I do believe CCP should compensate those of us who experienced this problem. Not all of us are as computer savvy as everyone else. You can't expect every computer user out there to know how to fix this issue. I didn't know how to and ended up doing a full restore of my system.

I would personally like to see CCP attempt to make this situation right but in a very creative way. Maybe they could put 1B isk into the accounts of those who were effected by this. Or MAYBE they could turn every rat spawn (in high-sec and low-sec) into a faction spawn for the next week. Or maybe they could even give us a month or two of free game time.

I forgive CCP for what happened. At least, to an extent. I'm still amazed that they didn't catch this before the patch was released. Sure, it was released four hours early. I just spent four hours repairing my PC because of this.

CCP, please make this right. I implore you. Be creative and figure out an appropriate way to fix this situation (in which, you yourselves caused).




People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.

eLLioTT wave
Art of War
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:32:00 - [257]
 

You guys are so funny!

From the front page:
Those that meet ALL of the following criteria need to read the Update Fix Instructions and should NOT reboot their PC:

1. You started downloading the upgrade from Trinity Classic Graphics Content to Premium Graphics Content BEFORE 04:00 GMT on Dec 6
2. You must be using a version of Windows other than Vista.
3. You must have Windows installed not on the primary partition.
4. You must have at least 2 hard disks and the OS must be installed not on the primary, but the secondary hard disk


--------------------------

Now for the people complaining about average users being screwed and what not. The above criteria eliminate average users.

1. An average user does not have 2 hard disks.
2. An average user has windows installed on their primary partition (because it is usually the ONLY partition).
3. Installing the operating system onto a secondary hard disk is a strange configuration to begin with.
4. As of this post there are 25,000 people logged in, about normal for this time of day. If the average user met the criteria above then there would not be the average amount of players logged in at this time.

@ the repair costs for people having their pc fixed comments above >
If you did pay to have your pc fixed from this, you should now be demanding a refund for what is a very simple fix. You should then be questioning why your computer was ever configured in this strange configuration to begin with.

@ the restaurant comment above > did CCP make you physically I'll with this patch?

@ all the internet lawyers > keep going, you guys are funny!

Solomon XI
Hidden Souls
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:34:00 - [258]
 

Originally by: SnakeByte86
Originally by: Solomon XI
I would like to say for the record that CCP is no liable for any damages caused by this bug in their coding. They're protected by the EULA.

That being said.

I do believe CCP should compensate those of us who experienced this problem. Not all of us are as computer savvy as everyone else. You can't expect every computer user out there to know how to fix this issue. I didn't know how to and ended up doing a full restore of my system.

I would personally like to see CCP attempt to make this situation right but in a very creative way. Maybe they could put 1B isk into the accounts of those who were effected by this. Or MAYBE they could turn every rat spawn (in high-sec and low-sec) into a faction spawn for the next week. Or maybe they could even give us a month or two of free game time.

I forgive CCP for what happened. At least, to an extent. I'm still amazed that they didn't catch this before the patch was released. Sure, it was released four hours early. I just spent four hours repairing my PC because of this.

CCP, please make this right. I implore you. Be creative and figure out an appropriate way to fix this situation (in which, you yourselves caused).




People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


Would be an interesting court case to be sure. YARRRR!!

shortattenionsp
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:34:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: SnakeByte86

SEE! I was right, if CCP made you do eula before downloading they would not be liable. But since eula is after install, CCP is 100% liable.


No. The problem was with people who patched their classic EVE client, then downloaded the new premium content in-game, not seperately. To download it in game, you have to have agreed to the EULA. Very simple.

p.s. There is no such thing as personal responsibility! LOL @ all the people from the United States of Lawsuits.

Thargat
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:35:00 - [260]
 

Originally by: SnakeByte86



People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


Iceland still hunts whales, try to MAKE them stop ;p

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:37:00 - [261]
 

Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: SnakeByte86



People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


Iceland still hunts whales, try to MAKE them stop ;p


So I can sue Microsoft then each time they release a patch that screws up my computer causing me to reinstall it?

Megadon
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:42:00 - [262]
 

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: SnakeByte86



People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


Iceland still hunts whales, try to MAKE them stop ;p


So I can sue Microsoft then each time they release a patch that screws up my computer causing me to reinstall it?


Yew surely can.

You can sue anyone for anything at anytime anywhere but that doesn't really mean a damn thing in reality as we all know.

riprjak
Hermits Rest
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:43:00 - [263]
 

Originally by: Solomon XI
Edited by: Solomon XI on 07/12/2007 02:32:09
Edit: To those of you who say you have no sympathy, let me say this. I only have one hard-drive and don't understand how to do 'partitions' very well. I use an external for my backup purposes. However, my external is full. I do not have the money to buy a second drive or another external at this time. I lost around 30GB worth of content that is going to take me some time to replace. So yes, you may be a computer guru. You may know how to fix this problem in under thirty-seconds. Good for you. I didn't (I do now) and so I have been royally screwed.



There exists no way, at all, in which the loss of the boot.ini can *DIRECTLY* cause the loss of ANY data (yes, drivers and updates MAY be lost with a system restore rollback, but not data, not files created or saved by the user). Any data lost would be the result of the users own misguided actions or the lack of backups/recovery disks (assuming they then wouldnt pay for professional assistance). Seriously, even IF (a big IF IMO) CCP can somehow be held responsible for those who had to recover their boot.ini; CCP *cannot* be liable for any loss of data.

In the same way you dont hold the brewery responsible when someone gets trashed and runs down a busstop full of school kids. Yes, the brewery is *ARGUABLY* responsible for your getting trashed (tho not really IMO); you are the damned fool who was behind the wheen when all those school kids got mashed beneath your car.

Anyway, I got distracted by your edit. So, to my point...

Originally by: Solomon XI
Edited by: Solomon XI on 07/12/2007 02:32:09
CCP, please make this right. I implore you. Be creative and figure out an appropriate way to fix this situation (in which, you yourselves caused).



They already did compensate us... its called trinity... and its wonderful (moreso when POS are no longer fugley). Hands up those who, even knowing of the boot.ini issue chose *NOT* to install premium content, regardless. None? Thought so.

err!
jak.

Thargat
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:43:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: SnakeByte86



People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


Iceland still hunts whales, try to MAKE them stop ;p


So I can sue Microsoft then each time they release a patch that screws up my computer causing me to reinstall it?


I actually meant that Iceland doesn't care much about international law. YARRRR!!

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:46:00 - [265]
 

Originally by: eLLioTT wave
You guys are so funny!

From the front page:
Those that meet ALL of the following criteria need to read the Update Fix Instructions and should NOT reboot their PC:

1. You started downloading the upgrade from Trinity Classic Graphics Content to Premium Graphics Content BEFORE 04:00 GMT on Dec 6
2. You must be using a version of Windows other than Vista.
3. You must have Windows installed not on the primary partition.
4. You must have at least 2 hard disks and the OS must be installed not on the primary, but the secondary hard disk


--------------------------

Now for the people complaining about average users being screwed and what not. The above criteria eliminate average users.

1. An average user does not have 2 hard disks.
2. An average user has windows installed on their primary partition (because it is usually the ONLY partition).
3. Installing the operating system onto a secondary hard disk is a strange configuration to begin with.
4. As of this post there are 25,000 people logged in, about normal for this time of day. If the average user met the criteria above then there would not be the average amount of players logged in at this time.

@ the repair costs for people having their pc fixed comments above >
If you did pay to have your pc fixed from this, you should now be demanding a refund for what is a very simple fix. You should then be questioning why your computer was ever configured in this strange configuration to begin with.

@ the restaurant comment above > did CCP make you physically I'll with this patch?

@ all the internet lawyers > keep going, you guys are funny!


Umm, its pretty common actualy for people to have 2 partitions on laptops for example.

Jusst about every consumer laptop launches with a recovery partition.

riprjak
Hermits Rest
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:46:00 - [266]
 

Originally by: eLLioTT wave
You guys are so funny!

From the front page:
Those that meet ALL of the following criteria need to read the Update Fix Instructions and should NOT reboot their PC:

1. You started downloading the upgrade from Trinity Classic Graphics Content to Premium Graphics Content BEFORE 04:00 GMT on Dec 6
2. You must be using a version of Windows other than Vista.
3. You must have Windows installed not on the primary partition.
4. You must have at least 2 hard disks and the OS must be installed not on the primary, but the secondary hard disk


--------------------------

Now for the people complaining about average users being screwed and what not. The above criteria eliminate average users.

1. An average user does not have 2 hard disks.
2. An average user has windows installed on their primary partition (because it is usually the ONLY partition).
3. Installing the operating system onto a secondary hard disk is a strange configuration to begin with.
4. As of this post there are 25,000 people logged in, about normal for this time of day. If the average user met the criteria above then there would not be the average amount of players logged in at this time.

@ the repair costs for people having their pc fixed comments above >
If you did pay to have your pc fixed from this, you should now be demanding a refund for what is a very simple fix. You should then be questioning why your computer was ever configured in this strange configuration to begin with.

@ the restaurant comment above > did CCP make you physically I'll with this patch?

@ all the internet lawyers > keep going, you guys are funny!


Whilst I *DO* agree with you :) It is also possible that folks with software raided systems will suffer (ie ID-10-T's without computer nouse but wanting to have t3h aw3sumz1111!!!1lolz rig) from this issue (depending on mobo/bios etc...). Other than this point, you are spot on.

riprjak
Hermits Rest
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:48:00 - [267]
 

Edited by: riprjak on 07/12/2007 02:49:48
Edited by: riprjak on 07/12/2007 02:49:02
Originally by: SnakeByte86

Umm, its pretty common actualy for people to have 2 partitions on laptops for example.

Jusst about every consumer laptop launches with a recovery partition.


Im trying to work out if this is a point for or against the arguement. Since the presence of a recovery partition WILL fix this problem... unless for some reason the recovery partition DOESNT allow recovery as well as restore.

Nathtali
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:48:00 - [268]
 

Quote:
People keep saying the eula, but here is the thing. EULA does NOT protect CCP.

EULA rarely hold up in court, esepecially in Europe. PLUS you dont see the eula, until after you have installed and started eve. Which means anything before the eula, they are liable for. Thats why most companies make you read eula before you install, or before you download even.

Sorry bud, CCP is liable.


I don't recall any lawsuit in history that was from a screwed computer from an install. The only lawsuits I know of are infringement suits involving the IP of the game. Granted, there are really insane suits where they won, but I don't see this happening at all with CCP.

Commander Solo
Digital Fury Corporation
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:49:00 - [269]
 

lol

SnakeByte86
Posted - 2007.12.07 02:53:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: riprjak
Edited by: riprjak on 07/12/2007 02:49:48
Edited by: riprjak on 07/12/2007 02:49:02
Originally by: SnakeByte86

Umm, its pretty common actualy for people to have 2 partitions on laptops for example.

Jusst about every consumer laptop launches with a recovery partition.


Im trying to work out if this is a point for or against the arguement. Since the presence of a recovery partition WILL fix this problem... unless for some reason the recovery partition DOESNT allow recovery as well as restore.


I cant say for sure, but i know my useless dell doesnt allow you to do anything, besides a complete format and reinstall of windows. Why?/ Cause dell is ******ed.

PS dont buy dell, i've had to replace the laptop 9 times in 12 months, warranty expired and it is still fubar. It actualy doesnt turn on, if its cold. I mean like 55 degrees cold, it wont turn on! just sits there with a black screen, i need to literaly warm it up infront of fireplace to get it to turn on


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