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Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:30:00 - [151]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
There are always going to be some who believe you should know how to use the things you rely on. Though they don't actually all live in basements, though I know how much that thought must make you feel better about yourself.


So how are you on the nitrogen cycle or the Haber process or global climate change or your country's transport infrastructure OH GOD YOU RELY SO MUCH ON OTHERS YOU'RE SO WEAK

Empyre
Chaotic Balance
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:30:00 - [152]
 

Originally by: vextorious
People are paying to have their computers fixed. Geek Squad wants 100+ dollars to repair this issue.

This is going to require compensation CCP. In the form of free game time or maybe refunds or possibly isk payouts.

I know that I'm personally responsible for saving 2 other users from paying to have their computer fixed.

Make this right CCP. Act fast to save your reputation...


EDIT---Update for first time readers

The regular forum readers already know this but, there is a small contingent of users who do nothing but bash anyone that disagrees with CCP actions or policies.

This phenomenon is not limited to the eve forums. It rears is ugly head in just about every forum on the internet.

BUT! If you can sort through the mess, this thread has numerious high quality posts making good arguments for both sides. I suggest you read it through.




no, we bash you because you're a greedy, less than understanding idiot that took their computer to geek squad. there are more than a few how-tos on here to simply fix the problem. you managed to round up enough brain cells to post a new thread, you'd think you could use those to find said answers...

but no, let's just trash and bash the company that works hard to bring us the enjoyment of eve WITH FREE FEKKIN EXPANSIONS. by chance.. are you related to that stupid woman who sued mcdonalds because she was a clutz who dropped a cup of labelled hot coffee in her lap?

Nhi'Khuna
The Environmental Management Team
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:31:00 - [153]
 

Quote:
BTW. Most EULA do NOT hold up in court. The software companies tend to make them overly broad, and encumbering. You fanbois sem to think that they can put anything in the EULA and that makes it okay.


Umn, I'm no fanbois, I'm just trying to let you know what you've agreed to by accepting the little clicky option at the bottom of the EULA... Mkay?

And no, who knows if it would hold up in court or not, I have my doubts that anyone would take legal action because they put Eve Online on their work terminal (tsk tsk). All I'm trying to do is to inform folks that while they might post and post and post about what they are entitled to, the actual agreement that we've all signed on to says we're entitled to nothing at all.

That being said, if it ends up being a truly huge crock up I imagine that CCP would, in good conscience, make some sort of reparations, in the interest of preserving their subscriber base.

Boy. allot of heated folks eh? Might be good to step back, take a deep breath and approach this from another perspective.

Or troll away, whatever your flavour.

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:31:00 - [154]
 

Originally by: Dr Paithos
Originally by: Crumplecorn
There are always going to be some who believe you should know how to use the things you rely on. Though they don't actually all live in basements, though I know how much that thought must make you feel better about yourself.


So how are you on the nitrogen cycle or the Haber process or global climate change or your country's transport infrastructure OH GOD YOU RELY SO MUCH ON OTHERS YOU'RE SO WEAK
That faint whooshing sound above your head was my point.

Sister Libertina
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:34:00 - [155]
 





no, we bash you because you're a greedy, less than understanding idiot that took their computer to geek squad. there are more than a few how-tos on here to simply fix the problem. you managed to round up enough brain cells to post a new thread, you'd think you could use those to find said answers...

but no, let's just trash and bash the company that works hard to bring us the enjoyment of eve WITH FREE FEKKIN EXPANSIONS. by chance.. are you related to that stupid woman who sued mcdonalds because she was a clutz who dropped a cup of labelled hot coffee in her lap?



WITH FREE FREKKIN EXPANSIONS for only 10 a month!

Initializing ingnore this poster sequence .... ignore this poster sequence activated

Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:34:00 - [156]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Dr Paithos
Originally by: Crumplecorn
There are always going to be some who believe you should know how to use the things you rely on. Though they don't actually all live in basements, though I know how much that thought must make you feel better about yourself.


So how are you on the nitrogen cycle or the Haber process or global climate change or your country's transport infrastructure OH GOD YOU RELY SO MUCH ON OTHERS YOU'RE SO WEAK
That faint whooshing sound above your head was my point.


Likewise.

Even people with a great deal of computer expertise documented how they found the problem difficult to solve.

No person can absolutely undertand everything.

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:35:00 - [157]
 

Originally by: Dr Paithos
Even people with a great deal of computer expertise documented how they found the problem difficult to solve.

No person can absolutely undertand everything.
Of course not. But it seems a large number are well able to blame others for their lack of understanding.

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:37:00 - [158]
 

Originally by: Sister Libertina
For the fanbois to try saying it is the users fault for not backing up our computers or for not spending our entire lives sat in a darkened room squeezing spots and learning everything there is to know about windows is absurd! CCP made a mistake. Clearly it is their fault that the boot.ini file has (in some cases) gone awol. I am not suggesting that CCP is liable for compensation, but it really gets my goat the way the fanbois assume that everyone knows operating systems inside out and that CCP is not to blame. They're never going to give you a job anyway so why bother.


Actually, what I like pointing out is the flaw in the logic. Complaining about something that will never ever happen is quite funny. Anyone could say it happened to them and demand compensation since it is a software problem and didn't cause any actual physical damage. Like I pointed out above, asking for compensation for a problem that any techie from even the worst tech course could fix is rather idoctic. Especially since there are untold millions of 'fixes' Microsoft has put out that has caused people to completely reimage their hard drives.

But hey, people love to complain when they are inconvenienced. Even when it is something they are not paying for except for the subscription fees which they can cancel at any time (which is why I am paying monthly). Unlike other MMORPGs where you have to PAY for the expansion as well as subscription fees. But hey, who am I to judge. I have only been doing support for 15 years and listen to lusers complain about even the most minor problems EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE while trying not to shoot myself or them because of their stupidity. 'Yes, ma'am, when you ERASE a hard drive, all the data is gone.' 'Yes sir, you need to plug your computer in and press the power button for it to start.'

Sister Libertina
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:42:00 - [159]
 

Edited by: Sister Libertina on 06/12/2007 22:45:57
Edited by: Sister Libertina on 06/12/2007 22:43:54
Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: Sister Libertina
For the fanbois to try saying it is the users fault for not backing up our computers or for not spending our entire lives sat in a darkened room squeezing spots and learning everything there is to know about windows is absurd! CCP made a mistake. Clearly it is their fault that the boot.ini file has (in some cases) gone awol. I am not suggesting that CCP is liable for compensation, but it really gets my goat the way the fanbois assume that everyone knows operating systems inside out and that CCP is not to blame. They're never going to give you a job anyway so why bother.




Actually, what I like pointing out is the flaw in the logic. Complaining about something that will never ever happen is quite funny. Anyone could say it happened to them and demand compensation since it is a software problem and didn't cause any actual physical damage. Like I pointed out above, asking for compensation for a problem that any techie from even the worst tech course could fix is rather idoctic. Especially since there are untold millions of 'fixes' Microsoft has put out that has caused people to completely reimage their hard drives.

But hey, people love to complain when they are inconvenienced. Even when it is something they are not paying for except for the subscription fees which they can cancel at any time (which is why I am paying monthly). Unlike other MMORPGs where you have to PAY for the expansion as well as subscription fees. But hey, who am I to judge. I have only been doing support for 15 years and listen to lusers complain about even the most minor problems EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE while trying not to shoot myself or them because of their stupidity. 'Yes, ma'am, when you ERASE a hard drive, all the data is gone.' 'Yes sir, you need to plug your computer in and press the power button for it to start.'


Where is the flaw here? I am not suggesting CCP is liable for compensation.

However, how can the boot.ini file getting wasted be anyones fault but CCPs? Oh wait, of course it was our fault for clicking 'UPDATE NOW'.

Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:44:00 - [160]
 

Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Dr Paithos
Even people with a great deal of computer expertise documented how they found the problem difficult to solve.

No person can absolutely undertand everything.
Of course not. But it seems a large number are well able to blame others for their lack of understanding.


It's not reasonable to expect people to have a high level of technical understanding to run a PC, or to play an internet game. It may be helpful, and desirable, but it's not reasonable by the current standards of our culture.

Perhaps that is the problem, or perhaps it's the newness of the technology, or perhaps if companies took more liability for harmful software there would be far less of these problems. I don't know. Maybe the EULA for all software should say "I understand I take responsibility for maintaining this software and my machine to a reasonable standard". But what is a reasonable standard? It would be far easier to agree this for e.g. a car than a PC.

Eh, I don't really have a point or a punchy flame.

You're ALL wrong. Will that do?

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:46:00 - [161]
 

Originally by: zattariss
Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: zattariss
I don't have my install disks anymore. I've already lost everything on the pc and I now need to re-buy Windows XP. $90 down the drain. Wow.


Which you would have had to done if your hard drive ever crashed.


Thats cool, but my hard drive did not crash.


Yes, but now if it ever does, you don't have to worry about it as much anymore, do you? :) And even if you change computers, you have XP install disks for it. And since you are buying said disks, you could even use them to fix the problem since those knowledge people have posted or linked how to fix this without reinstalling. Imagine what would have happened if you been running Vista when they realeased the update that automatically installed and dragged the performance of a PC to that of a 386 trying to run Windows XP. Most users don't realize this but ALL software, upgrades and patches are 'install at your own risk'. A general lesson for all windows users: You'll never have to reinstall Windows for a software problem as long as you never, ever install anything else on to it.

So lesson learned, possible future crisis minimized.

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:48:00 - [162]
 

Originally by: Empyre
Originally by: vextorious
People are paying to have their computers fixed. Geek Squad wants 100+ dollars to repair this issue.

This is going to require compensation CCP. In the form of free game time or maybe refunds or possibly isk payouts.

I know that I'm personally responsible for saving 2 other users from paying to have their computer fixed.

Make this right CCP. Act fast to save your reputation...


EDIT---Update for first time readers

The regular forum readers already know this but, there is a small contingent of users who do nothing but bash anyone that disagrees with CCP actions or policies.

This phenomenon is not limited to the eve forums. It rears is ugly head in just about every forum on the internet.

BUT! If you can sort through the mess, this thread has numerious high quality posts making good arguments for both sides. I suggest you read it through.




no, we bash you because you're a greedy, less than understanding idiot that took their computer to geek squad. there are more than a few how-tos on here to simply fix the problem. you managed to round up enough brain cells to post a new thread, you'd think you could use those to find said answers...

but no, let's just trash and bash the company that works hard to bring us the enjoyment of eve WITH FREE FEKKIN EXPANSIONS. by chance.. are you related to that stupid woman who sued mcdonalds because she was a clutz who dropped a cup of labelled hot coffee in her lap?



I think I smell another BOFH in the making. Cool

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:54:00 - [163]
 

Originally by: Sister Libertina

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
Originally by: Sister Libertina
For the fanbois to try saying it is the users fault for not backing up our computers or for not spending our entire lives sat in a darkened room squeezing spots and learning everything there is to know about windows is absurd! CCP made a mistake. Clearly it is their fault that the boot.ini file has (in some cases) gone awol. I am not suggesting that CCP is liable for compensation, but it really gets my goat the way the fanbois assume that everyone knows operating systems inside out and that CCP is not to blame. They're never going to give you a job anyway so why bother.




Actually, what I like pointing out is the flaw in the logic. Complaining about something that will never ever happen is quite funny. Anyone could say it happened to them and demand compensation since it is a software problem and didn't cause any actual physical damage. Like I pointed out above, asking for compensation for a problem that any techie from even the worst tech course could fix is rather idoctic. Especially since there are untold millions of 'fixes' Microsoft has put out that has caused people to completely reimage their hard drives.

But hey, people love to complain when they are inconvenienced. Even when it is something they are not paying for except for the subscription fees which they can cancel at any time (which is why I am paying monthly). Unlike other MMORPGs where you have to PAY for the expansion as well as subscription fees. But hey, who am I to judge. I have only been doing support for 15 years and listen to lusers complain about even the most minor problems EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE while trying not to shoot myself or them because of their stupidity. 'Yes, ma'am, when you ERASE a hard drive, all the data is gone.' 'Yes sir, you need to plug your computer in and press the power button for it to start.'


Where is the flaw here? I am not suggesting CCP is liable for compensation.

However, how can the boot.ini file getting wasted be anyones fault but CCPs? Oh wait, of course it was our fault for clicking 'UPDATE NOW'.


Exactly. You take the same risk is taken when you do automatic updates to windows and happen to have joeblowsoftware company's latest and greatest disk utility installed that makes your computer run 10x faster and your computer suddenly takes a dump. Where do you think the microsoft tech support articles come from? They didn't post a fix to a boot.ini file problem because they suddenly thought of it. It no doubt happened after an update of something, usually a microsoft 'patch'.

I didn't run and scream to microsoft when one of their patches screwed up my XP machine's TCP/IP stack so bad I had to reimage since none of the posted fixes for it worked (or made sense). No doubt it was because I had some firewall software or antivirus software running at the time.

Jonny JoJo
Amarr
The Imperial Guards
Posted - 2007.12.06 22:58:00 - [164]
 

Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 06/12/2007 22:59:58
Guys Guys.

CCP made a major mistake. They fixed it now of course.

To the victim, it was not an intentional error, and one that is easy to fix (if you have good technical knowledge), time conusimg to fix (if you have basic technical knowledge) or hard to fix (granny jones is not exactly going to be coding up a boot.ini)

The technical folks are not an issue. If the car engine failed because the garrage made a error, it owuld be unreasonable to pass the blam onto me, when it was the garrages fault.

However, CCP are not passing the buck and are helping people with dozens of warnings, even ingame popups. They are fixing this broken car engine, and I have nothing but respect for what they do.

But for the Granny jones who barely knows how to dock, let alone mess about with config files, it is unfair to assume that she would have expert knowledge. And CCP are doing whatever they can to communicate the message accross. They are not saying "LOL GR4NNY J0N3S! its your fault", they are actually working with Granny Jones to help her get back into eve and mine veldspar alongside chribba.

Any compensation scheme would not be made public - and legally, they dont have to compensate you either. There is no winners - its just life sucks as much as Amarr, and people have to work forward rather than live in the past

Karando
Random Goods
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:03:00 - [165]
 

I love how n00bs are complaining about CCP deleting a text file with static text in it.

Morberi
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:04:00 - [166]
 

Those of you telling people that they should have looked up the answer to their problems on the internet are just... do you people not understand what a catch 22 is?

Stitcher
Caldari
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:08:00 - [167]
 

Edited by: Stitcher on 06/12/2007 23:12:34
While I can sympathize with the people who want compensation for this, there is one significant problem attached - proof.

CCP will have no way of knowing whether a claim is genuine or not, and you just know that a variety of "enterprising" individuals would be quite happy to exploit that fact. I don't want to see them get ripped off, even over a boo-boo as big as this one.

I suspect they're all incredibly embarrassed right now. As a community, let's refrain from rubbing salt in the wound.

My commiserations to everyone who had to pay money over this issue. Personally, it wouldn't have been an issue for me because I can always call on my friends for any tech support I'm not able to perform myself, for the cost of a beer at most. (Besides, I run Vista). I guess if you don't have any friends/family who are able or willing to help you out like that it's kind of a sticky situation to get stuck in.

I'm also facepalming like mad everytime somebody says "CCP PUT UP FREE ADVISE ON THIS LOL NOOB" - if people don't have access ti a working computer, they can't very well get online to READ that advise, can they?

Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Emptiness.
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:09:00 - [168]
 

Originally by: Treher
Edited by: Treher on 06/12/2007 20:46:43
How about all of you nerdy fanboys tell me how much you paid to have your car fixed or your furnace repaired. I'm sure that you will find that no technician will charge based on actual time to fix something, it's always rounded up to the nearest hour.

This only proves that you know nothing about the service industry and compensation.


Funny. Because every time I have issue with my car and my mechanic solves it in just a handfull of minutes without changing any piece. He charges NOTHING!

Find a decent and reliable and HONEST technician and he will not have courage to charge more than 5$ for this.

Ciara Daag
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:16:00 - [169]
 

Originally by: Modrak Vseth
Do NONE of you people have any backups or restore points saved? If it's taking 4 or 5 hours for you to fix this then you were setting yourself up for a massive failure eventually anyway.


Backups and restore points wont help here. Windows wont even boot. Besides,thats exactly the point,most people DONT have backups. Yea,its stupid. Its the truth though.

Ciara Daag
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:28:00 - [170]
 

Originally by: Empyre
Originally by: vextorious
People are paying to have their computers fixed. Geek Squad wants 100+ dollars to repair this issue.

This is going to require compensation CCP. In the form of free game time or maybe refunds or possibly isk payouts.

I know that I'm personally responsible for saving 2 other users from paying to have their computer fixed.

Make this right CCP. Act fast to save your reputation...


EDIT---Update for first time readers

The regular forum readers already know this but, there is a small contingent of users who do nothing but bash anyone that disagrees with CCP actions or policies.

This phenomenon is not limited to the eve forums. It rears is ugly head in just about every forum on the internet.

BUT! If you can sort through the mess, this thread has numerious high quality posts making good arguments for both sides. I suggest you read it through.




no, we bash you because you're a greedy, less than understanding idiot that took their computer to geek squad. there are more than a few how-tos on here to simply fix the problem. you managed to round up enough brain cells to post a new thread, you'd think you could use those to find said answers...

but no, let's just trash and bash the company that works hard to bring us the enjoyment of eve WITH FREE FEKKIN EXPANSIONS. by chance.. are you related to that stupid woman who sued mcdonalds because she was a clutz who dropped a cup of labelled hot coffee in her lap?



Ok,now its time to just go off. Are you stupid? How can you expect people to look up the solution on the internet when their computers don't work.

Oh,and just to put to rest the situation of the McDonalds coffee. It was NOT labeled. Its labeled now because they were sued. I agree,the lawsuit sounds stupid on its face. Then you actually read the details. There are actual transcripts of the meeting where mcd's execs had about the coffee. It was actually suggested that the coffee was kept too hot. It was kept so hot it was just below boiling. They did this so that it made the store smell like hot coffee in the morning and boosted sales. The transcripts show them discussing how someone was going to be badly burned by dumping a cup of scalding hot liquid in their lap. They decided not to fix it because it would reduce sales of coffee in the morning. They didn't even bother to put a warning on the cup. THAT is why they settled. THey realized there was a very real possibility that if it went to court,they might well lose because they were in fact negligent in realizing there was a potential problem and ignoring it so they could sell more product. That does not go over well with juries.

Ill certainly give you the point though,its certainly a nice sounding thing to throw out when you want to try to give an example of a frivolous lawsuit.

Certainly CCP legally does not owe us any money or compensation. If I recall,there is a clause protecting them in the EULA or at least there is most companies licenses. That does not mean that they shouldn't give us something. (Well not us,becuase I fixed it in 5 minutes and then did CCPs job posted a nice disk to fix the problem with). It certainly would go a long way if CCP would perhaps give a month or two of free service to anyone who downloaded the patch during that period who can show an invoice for having to get the computer fixed. It wouldnt make up for the 100 dollars a shop will charge,but its certainly a good gesture instead of "Suck it up,quit whining ,now give us your money"

Mourn Navarre
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:30:00 - [171]
 

I have to say, it is morbidly amusing to see people whine and flail when their OS goes to hell over something that was installed. You can see the childlike naivety in their eyes when it happens and the dumbfounded expression when you explain that yes, installing software has been known to break windows to the point where you have to reinstall. If you wanted stable, or more fixable by regular people platform, get a Mac. Your boot file gets trashed on that, it prompts you for the install disk, you put it in, it replaces it and you are back and running with all your files. There is a reason why those Mac Ads poke at PCs/Windows. Every thing they point out is actually true. If only I could convince my company with 900 users to go entirely Apple... ah, to dream. :)

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:33:00 - [172]
 

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
I have to say, it is morbidly amusing to see people whine and flail when their OS goes to hell over something that was installed. You can see the childlike naivety in their eyes when it happens and the dumbfounded expression when you explain that yes, installing software has been known to break windows to the point where you have to reinstall. If you wanted stable, or more fixable by regular people platform, get a Mac. Your boot file gets trashed on that, it prompts you for the install disk, you put it in, it replaces it and you are back and running with all your files. There is a reason why those Mac Ads poke at PCs/Windows. Every thing they point out is actually true. If only I could convince my company with 900 users to go entirely Apple... ah, to dream. :)


I could break your mac...

Digicomm
The Digital Communists
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:34:00 - [173]
 

I swear to Christ that ISD Cortez follows me and locks all me threads.

anyhoo. sup CCP can you send me a billion isk please for the boot.ini '07 fiasco?

If not please erase all previous forum bans and I start fresh.

kthx.

Ciara Daag
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:34:00 - [174]
 

Originally by: Louis DelaBlanche
Edited by: Louis DelaBlanche on 06/12/2007 22:27:36
Originally by: vextorious
As all you regular forum reader already know, there is a small contingent of users who do nothing but bash anyone that disagrees with CCP actions or policies.

This phenomenon is not limited to the eve forums, but rears is ugly head in just about every forum on the internet.

BUT! If you can sort through the mess, this thread has numerious high quality posts making good arguments for both sides. I suggest your read it through.


Whenever CCP sneeze, a predictable chain of events happen. Someone (usually lots of someones all aparently independantly unaware of all the others) posts a negative topic, coupled with demands for some form of reimbursement. This causes a mix of people who agree with said person, & those who disagree, to reply to said persons thread & voice their opinions with varying levels of eloquence & politeness.

Those who agree with the op (& often the op his/herself) turn on those who support CCP, or at least dont support the damands of those against, declaring them fanbois & using incrasingly crude, personal & offensive language to express that. Said 'fanbois' then respond by declaring the others trolls, morons etc & of course also use increasingly crude, personal & offensive language.

At some point someone will tell the OP to go back to WOW, the EULA will be brought up & torn apart by multiple people with little or no knowledge of legal documents. The assertion of people living in their parents basement will be used to somehow imply a moral superiority of those using it (who may or may not live in their parents basement themselves). Multiple ppl will threaten to cancel their multiple subscriptions & then appear to boil over with indignation when the "can I have your stuff" response is given as a matter of course.

By the 2nd or 3rd page, with the occasional input by someone new to the thread, it will have quickly decended into a series of often offtopic arguements between individuals usually reading as though they were arguing over who called the others mum fat first.

Eventually it will spiral so offtopic that the thread is closed by a moderator; at which point a new series of threads will be created in which much the same thing happens. After a few rounds of lock-restart threads process some people will start posting replies observing this process writing in a longwinded & somewhat smug manner indirectly implying their own detatchment (real or not) to the matter at hand. The net result is that General Discussion forum becomes a quagmire of locked & repeated topics for a couple days.

After the fires have burned themselves out, a CCP spokemam might dare to raise their head about the subject, which usually results in the whole process starting again. More likely theyll simply attempt to see if any good suggestions are made amoung the piles of rubbish, & quitely take them on board. The forum community quickly forgets what it was getting so hot & bothered about, & the usual threads about lag, high sec ganking, confusion over invention & Jita return to dominate the from page.


Are you suggesting that this is a "sneeze"?

Novemb3r
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:35:00 - [175]
 

You know how you could avoid these update problems in the future? Unsubscribe. But contract me your stuff before you do.

Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:35:00 - [176]
 

Bump

Tressin Khiyne
Minmatar
The Tuskers
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:37:00 - [177]
 


Digicomm
The Digital Communists
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:38:00 - [178]
 

Originally by: Novemb3r
You know how you could avoid these update problems in the future? Unsubscribe. But contract me your stuff before you do.


Silly VHI piwats. Seriously some people got thier PC pooched by this. This is a serious thread.

CCP, grant me 200 % damage and range on all large TII arties on my main plz.

Gone'Postal
Roast and Toast Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:38:00 - [179]
 

Originally by: Mourn Navarre
I have to say, it is morbidly amusing to see people whine and flail when their OS goes to hell over something that was installed. You can see the childlike naivety in their eyes when it happens and the dumbfounded expression when you explain that yes, installing software has been known to break windows to the point where you have to reinstall. If you wanted stable, or more fixable by regular people platform, get a Mac. Your boot file gets trashed on that, it prompts you for the install disk, you put it in, it replaces it and you are back and running with all your files. There is a reason why those Mac Ads poke at PCs/Windows. Every thing they point out is actually true. If only I could convince my company with 900 users to go entirely Apple... ah, to dream. :)


*IF* you had the disc you can do that on a PC as well.
There goes your point.


Dr Paithos
Minmatar
Republic Deep Space Institute
Posted - 2007.12.06 23:39:00 - [180]
 

Originally by: Tressin Khiyne
Linkage


Nice burn but is this link for the users in this thread or for CCP?


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