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LUH 3471
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:05:00 - [61]

Edited by: LUH 3471 on 06/12/2007 01:06:27
nice work ccp
and already one error found
the top turret hardpoint of the ishkur hovers slightly above it

Anova Chiasseciel
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:08:00 - [62]

Edited by: Anova Chiasseciel on 06/12/2007 01:08:02
my new friend dominix

Did you thought there were too much gallente ships, so you managed to make players flee from 'em ?!Crying or Very sad

Who wants my stuff ? =p

Sex Education
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:10:00 - [63]

I have a GeForce 7950 GX2 gfx card and when I run EVE after the patch has been deployed it never let me download the new shiny graphics. Now, if 7950 GX2 supports both DirectX 9.0c and Shader Model 3.0, why can't I use the new graphics engine?

Posted - 2007.12.06 01:13:00 - [64]

Seems to lock up randomly. Screen just goes black, hard drive activity goes through the roof, and it just sits there. I'm just sitting in station and it does this.

I have yet to get more than 5 minutes game time in before it tanks. I'm scared to leave the station...

Going to try a re-install, but it's a 5 hour download....


Maldus NiKunni
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:15:00 - [65]

So far it is pretty cool graphics wise.....dont care for the new overview, or the dragging windows by just the little bar.....but really hate the new animations on the ice miner lasers, the old ones are hella better, nice and fat....the new ones are hella weak looking......will keep looking for more bad changes

Masuat'aa Matari
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:17:00 - [66]

Moved from locked post (sorry)
Thanks CCP!
- For providing fast download servers! Theres nothing worse than getting bandwidth throttled to around 120KBps.

I managed to download the new shiny client in under 5 mins, a resonable download time! Thank you again!

J'Mkarr Soban
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:17:00 - [67]

First thought: very underwhelming.

* The textures are blocky and pixelated (the thrusters on the Abaddon, for example).
* My AA and AF isn't being applied, despite the fact they are enabled in the drivers - no piece of software has the right to mess with - or worse, ignore - system settings, it's very bad engineering. I've read above that there's a third party alternative to sort this - I hope you fix it to be in-game, soon.
* Performance is a joke. I've one from 120+ FPS in classic to 60 if I'm lucky in space, and down to something god-awful like 20 or 30 in station. Turning off shadows helped, but there's no excuse for it to be this way. I'm going to do some more testing tomorrow to see if it's not some compatibility issues, but I'm not holding my breath. I can't believe that it's the system settings though, as Oblivion and Bioshock (both HDR, Bloom, shadows et al games) run at around 60 FPS if not more at the same resolution, and they are vastly more complicated that Eve in terms of vectors. I doubt the new models even come close to the poly-count of those two games, given the poor quality of textures.

The good things:

* Drone changes. It took you 4 years, which is ridiculous, but it's here now.
* Altering overview. At bloody last.
* Moving the targets - I am very very glad about this, however I see the option to stack them in rows of x has been removed since Sisi. This needs to be brought back, if only because we can't move everything on the interface yet.
* Uniformity of ships. The Rohk is now the same shade as the other Tech 1 Caldari ships. This is a good thing. I've yet to see other races than Amarr and Caldari.

Still to be done:

* Let us move all the UI components. I'm sick of having to work everything around an over-sized console in the centre of my screen! And as for the system information and autopilot information - eugh, it gets in the way. It's very difficult to work around those two obstacles for the non-flight windows, especially trying to manage multiple chat windows. I know there are a few people who would like to be able to have 5 or 6 groups of chat windows all along the bottom to better communicate when there are battles.
* Controls for drone groups. Yes, thank you, I can now move drones together, but only all five. We've been asking to be able to order different groups of drones to do different things though. It's especially important if you're trying to work in more versatility of drones instead of sheer firepower.

All in all, a decent if vastly overdue functionality expansion, a moderate content expansion, and a (thus far) dreadful graphics expansion.

All IMO, of course, and from my own experience. But it sounds like the majority of the things I've listed above aren't unique to me.

Posted - 2007.12.06 01:17:00 - [68]

Originally by: TheRealWaldo
Seems to lock up randomly. Screen just goes black, hard drive activity goes through the roof, and it just sits there. I'm just sitting in station and it does this.

I have yet to get more than 5 minutes game time in before it tanks. I'm scared to leave the station...

Going to try a re-install, but it's a 5 hour download....


My game keeps locking up... no black screen but I'm picture framing. I can't move or anything and I'm not at the best place in the world to test stuff at...

Daphne Oboe
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:20:00 - [69]

Originally by: Crumplecorn
Resize the window those buttons are in

Ah, that did the trick. Thanks.

Hedron Industries
Red Dwarf Racketeering Division
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:25:00 - [70]

Any way to move the "Star Map/System Map/Close" window away from sitting above the Selected items? I want selected items at the top of the screen but it's moved down every time I open map and doesn't move back up when I close it.

Sage Fire
Ars ex Discordia
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:27:00 - [71]

Edited by: Sage Fire on 06/12/2007 01:29:37
This is an incredible start of a new expansion, at least for me. There is a friend of mine whose client keeps crashing when trying the new Trinity graphics. (His card, drivers, and OS should be able to support it.) But as for me, I had absolutely no problems patching, downloading the premium content (800 KB/Sec, wow!), and playing the game.

I've looked at quite a number of ships. I personally like the color schemes of them. Some of them make the ships look downright scary, which is good since I'm into combat.

Now, I personally thought I would barely be able to run the new Trinity graphics. My machine is well over 3 years old but it was built with some good parts. Sure, I do get a decrease in performance, but it isn't as bad as I thought. Most of the time the FPS is the same as Eve Classic. Ran a couple of test level 4 missions, traveled some, looked around...just wow. I don't have words for it. I thought I was going to switch back to Eve Classic for the sake of staying alive in terms of performance. But I'm not sure if I'll ever go back. Ever.

(Except for super big fleet battles.)

Thank you CCP. Thank you.

Posted - 2007.12.06 01:28:00 - [72]

Some people will never be happy...

I'm not one of them

Thanks CCP! Surprised

Ideal Machine
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:30:00 - [73]

Edited by: Lazarann on 06/12/2007 01:37:41
Even though I've already replied, I can't get over how cool everything looks lol. It's like looking at a whole new game. I love it. I could whine about the stuff I'm not a big fan of, but that's pointless, so I'll just keep staring at all the new graphics. Also, I love that my drones now show up next to whatever locked target they're attacking. The movable overview is a bit weird, but I guess I'll get used to it.

EDIT: Also, docked ships in missions (ie. Docked Badger II or just Badger II as a large collidable structure don't use the new graphics). Neither do control towers in missions.

Maldus NiKunni
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:34:00 - [74] this sucks....why is the targeting on the left side now???? I cant even see the first target do I change it back?

Zor Industries
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:36:00 - [75]

1st thing congrats on the new patch update

but from wht i gather from about 45 of my friends and including me we can not see the new graphics even tho it gave me and my friend Fedor E the choice to download it. From what i hear and read people do not want to be treated like 2nd class players not being able to see and run the graphics. Not all of us have the choice to just go out and buy a new graphics card just to run a game that was fine to begin with.

Destructive Influence
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:38:00 - [76]

I actually really like the new gfx, being a gallente pilot and blue being my fav colour oooh lovely ;)
I guess a lot of other people dont realise this is one of the first majour steps to rev 3 and are acting as if this is an end product but still some really good improvements imo i for one like it, i havent come across any bugs yet but thats not to say there is some, GJ CCP on having one of the biggest engine updates in eve and it went smoothly so far.

Radiant shield
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:41:00 - [77]

very very very well done, the new gfx are incredible, and the New UI improvements are Excellent, one of the Best Patches Yet

I love it!

Sevarus James
Meridian Dynamics
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:44:00 - [78]

Although the cedega update shows the "unsupported" patch....(thanks for the heads upon that Linghorm)...the update was smooth and the client is running. Initial testing shows 15-20% better fps than with the old client.

Two thumbs up!


Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:44:00 - [79]

right well... first glance in station, i think it looks dreadful, i don't really like any of the new ship models, or at best fail to see some big improvement - not a big problem however, i could have lived with new ship designs.

main problem: targeting, my targets are in the middle of the screen and i seem to have no way to move them to anywhere useful. now considering this is exactly what i experienced on test server only now at least there is some consolation that my targets aren't moving around my screen randomly (sorry half way through writing this they started moving around my screen again)... yea not a fan of not knowing where to look to see what im shooting at. which is a shame because i was really looking forward to being able to move my overview (and other stuff in that column) to somewhere useful

and the next problem: this game is killing my pc... my mouse appears once every second or so to give me a general idea where its headed... not great (my pc is far up and beyond the minimum system requirements for people who might like a cheap dig). only thing thats a bit behind the times is the graphics card so i guess ill see what eve looks like after i get a new graphics card in a few weeks though i must say i probably wont ever look at the trinity graphics again until i hear something amazing has happened to it.

Maldus NiKunni
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:45:00 - [80]

this is wird.....the targeting on my alt is the same as before - on the right side - and on my main it is on the right???? WTF??? can anyone tell me how to get the main targeting on the right again?

Thanks guys

Hall Underley
La Famiglia Torrino
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:46:00 - [81]

Nice, but... five "connection closed" during half hour.

Maldus NiKunni
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:48:00 - [82]

I meant my main targeting is on the left side of the screen....sorry, damn

Posted - 2007.12.06 01:52:00 - [83]

First off all I want to congradulate CCP for a very impressive job!
Eve Trinity looks astonishing... Abselute eye-candy. Everything is working perfectly for me, I'm even getting far better FPS than I ever did in Revelations.


The Hat
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:54:00 - [84]

Hats off to you guys getting this up and running long before it was due, playing around only in station atm but I am amazed at the the difference with premium.

I run a laptop with classic and my main rig with premium.

I need a new laptop...............


Red Panda
VMF-214 Blacksheep
Posted - 2007.12.06 01:58:00 - [85]

Could you put some option to change the size of the buttons of the selected item window.
In high resolutions it will be dissicult to click on them.


Good update. Thanks for the game.

CCP kieron

Posted - 2007.12.06 01:59:00 - [86]

Originally by: SPIONKOP

Will you be updating the patch notes to include the stuff you couldn't tell us about before the patch.

You know the usual stealth stuff and exploits. Thats of course if there is anything you kept secret.

It's been a bit of a busy night and I forgot until I read this post. Embarassed Exploit fixes will be added to the patch notes in a few moments.

J'Mkarr Soban
Posted - 2007.12.06 02:01:00 - [87]


There is a little circle in the corner of where your targets start from. If the target is in the top-left quarter of the screen, the circle will be at the top left of the target. Bottom-right quarter of the screen, bottom-right of the target. You can drag this around to change the initial location of the targets, which automatically align to whichever quadrant the targets are dragged to (you'll see the position of them change around this circle). Right clicking allows you to lock the position and also change horizontal and vertical alignment.

The circle is quite faded, you might need to turn up the brightness to see it.

Posted - 2007.12.06 02:02:00 - [88]

After upgrading, my client tells me that the content download has already been downloaded... This is true, but it is the test client download that I downloaded last week...

Is it safe to use the content from the test on this client? Or, should I just delete it and download the whole file again?

J'Mkarr Soban
Posted - 2007.12.06 02:02:00 - [89]

Originally by: Red Panda
Could you put some option to change the size of the buttons of the selected item window.
In high resolutions it will be dissicult to click on them.


Good update. Thanks for the game.

Resizing the Selected Items window should resize the icons between old larger size and the smaller one. At least it was on Sisi, I haven't checked that on Tranq yet.

Advanced Designs
Posted - 2007.12.06 02:03:00 - [90]

Quick Check.

Did you guys Seed the T2 Capital Components BPOs?

Can't seem to find them in Jita, Amarr or Rens.

Graphic looks great.

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