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Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2008.03.18 16:44:00 - [121]
 

Originally by: Pizi
any fix for the white squares while cloaked ?


Look at OP.

This is the fix: You can enter hexadecimal value into the AA compatibility box.
Try 0xf0000045 , with this value AA + HDR is working and no white flashing bug.

Fager
Caldari
5 Inch Incorporated
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2008.03.19 23:49:00 - [122]
 

How can i confirm its actually working? (i cant spot it on the graphics that easy i assume)

Do i have to restart eve after every setting change?

Currently i have put all settings in, and no error (had one with the multi core setting, turn that off)

AA: 16x,Gamma,TranspSS
AACompat: 45
AF: 8x
VSync: App
Perf: HiQual
Trilin+
AnisoSam+
MipMap:Tri
CPU:MultiCore
HDR:On

Tajen Kata
Posted - 2008.03.20 01:36:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Tajen Kata on 20/03/2008 01:39:10
Hey anyone here playing eve with 16x anti alias (CSAA) and 8800 GT in WINDOWED mode (1280x800)? I would love to know if you get any "display driver stopped responding" or other problems with this AA setting. I usually get one in 6 hours of playing and wondering if it's a hardware or software issue.

Note I don't care if you play in fullscreen as this crash occurs in windowed play.

TUTENKAHMEN
Posted - 2008.04.13 00:55:00 - [124]
 

This appears to no longer work on the 17x.xx series nVidia drivers. So it is either an nVidia problem or a CCP problem or a mix of both. I am running 2x 8800GTS in SLI. Makes me seriously want to consider going to ATI.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2008.04.13 16:35:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: TUTENKAHMEN
This appears to no longer work on the 17x.xx series nVidia drivers. So it is either an nVidia problem or a CCP problem or a mix of both. I am running 2x 8800GTS in SLI. Makes me seriously want to consider going to ATI.

Working fine on 174.74

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2008.04.13 19:44:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: Mashie Saldana
Originally by: TUTENKAHMEN
This appears to no longer work on the 17x.xx series nVidia drivers. So it is either an nVidia problem or a CCP problem or a mix of both. I am running 2x 8800GTS in SLI. Makes me seriously want to consider going to ATI.

Working fine on 174.74


Same here. Sometimes it helps to uninstall current driver to get rid of any previous drover stuff, and then reinstall. Hope it helps Smile

Aequitas Veritas
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.04.16 07:36:00 - [127]
 

Anyone else have problem with random crashes in Vista when using this?

Sirial Soulfly
Posted - 2008.04.16 10:25:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Aequitas Veritas
Anyone else have problem with random crashes in Vista when using this?


I did when playing it in windowed mode, be sure to try full screen mode, if you haven't already.

5pinDizzy
Amarr
Pillow Fighters Inc
Posted - 2008.04.16 14:27:00 - [129]
 

Anyone reckon there will ever be anything close to a catalyst fix, or should we just all go throw our ATI cards in the dustbin and get an Nvidia?

A Gramsci
Posted - 2008.04.16 21:32:00 - [130]
 

Vista x64 8800 GTX: Works quite well - the game looks a thousand times better now, thanks for the tip.

I still get the white squares when cloaked, but its worth it for the HDR. If you have FR issues drop your shadows to high from extreme- that provides a serious boost, and if you want to check to see if the HDR is working, activate a stargate- it'll be obvious.

You sometimes have to alt+tab or esc out and in again (without changing settings) for it to work. I have to have HDR enanabled in the options menu to get both that and AA on together which contradicts what others are reporting.

Aequitas Veritas
NibbleTek
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2008.04.21 16:14:00 - [131]
 

Edited by: Aequitas Veritas on 21/04/2008 16:15:42
Originally by: Loreson
FIX - In Windows Vista / 8800 GTX / wo nHancer Very Happy

-Specify in Nvidia Control Panel necessary Antialising parametres manually, for example:
AA mode: Override any app settings
AA seting: 8xQ
AA transparency: Supersampling


-Find file ExeFile.exe (for example in "***********\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe")
-Copy it!
-Rename copy in Oblivion.exe
-Start a new file
-Windows (game?) will suggest to move this file in temp a folder
-Remember specified folder path(Have not remembered at once? Repeat once again! Smile)
-Find the moved file on this path and create shrotcut for it (just for convenience! Smile)

Wow! AA works, with HDR!



PS: sorry for my BAD english! But the information is more important. Wink


I did this and it works, but i dont know why. i cant start through the copy of the file called oblivion.exe, but through the normal links and it works like a charm O_o
I do still get the annoying blinking boxes when cloaked tho

Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Posted - 2008.04.25 10:29:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Eraggan Sadarr
Originally by: Pizi
any fix for the white squares while cloaked ?


Look at OP.

This is the fix: You can enter hexadecimal value into the AA compatibility box.
Try 0xf0000045 , with this value AA + HDR is working and no white flashing bug.


Thanks, I just tried this and now it seems to be working Very Happy

For some reason it wouldn't let me enter a hex value the first few times I tried - I must have been doing something wrong.

Severoth Darkblade
Posted - 2008.04.26 02:25:00 - [133]
 

I'm trying to get the best graphics out of my machine and have looked into running nhancer.

After playing with some stuff I just can't see any real change compared to the settings in game.

I have a:

Nvidia Geforce 8800GTS 512
Vista 64
Quad Core 6600
4 gig of ram.

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction for settings for nhancer to max out Eve.

Also couldn't see Cover Sampling? I thought it was for the 8800's?

Eraggan Sadarr
Comply Or Die
Posted - 2008.04.26 15:15:00 - [134]
 

As far as i know this "fix" only works in fullscreen.

And regarding the fix posted with changing the filename to oblivion.exe: This is not necessary!
I have found though, that sometimes i have to activate the profile manually from nhancers tray icon or in the tools menu. Then you can just alt+tab back into eve and then you have the AA+HDR.

To get rid of the flashing squares when cloaked write "0xf0000045" into the AA compatibility box.

W Floyd
Minmatar
Northen Star inc
Posted - 2008.04.28 09:40:00 - [135]
 

I finally got it working for myself. HDR and AA as far as I can tell. Only in full screen though, as seems to be the general case.

I do believe Coverage Sample had absolutely no effect, all the others seemed to work. Settled for 4xS Supersampling. The only things I changed were AA settings and compatibility (oblivion did the trick).
I also made sure the profile is manually activated through the taskbar.

*In the Nvidia panel, I set Eve AA to override (using 174,9 beta drivers) and supersampling, left the amount of AA at "default global setting". I'm not sure whether this had any effect, just mentioning it.*

I'm running Vista x32 and a GeForce 8800GTX. I tried a gazilion things from here and other threads and nothing seemed to work. So I can't really say why it did, but these are the settings and drivers I'm using in nHancer and Control Panel now, and they work.

W Floyd
Minmatar
Northen Star inc
Posted - 2008.04.28 10:23:00 - [136]
 

The Glory! A compilation of pics showcasing how my game looks. And if that ain't HDR then I don't want it :).
Thanks for the help everybody o/.

HydroSan
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.10 04:25:00 - [137]
 

Edited by: HydroSan on 10/05/2008 04:25:07
Alright, I'm having some weird quality issues with my system.

Specs:
BFG 7800 GTX (256MB)
Windows XP x64
Standard 169.21 drivers

Settings in nHancer:
Tried the ...45 Oblivion code, no dice. Currently on the ...200 Splinter Cell code. Both have the same quality issues.

Enhancements:
AA: Supersampling 4x4
Gamma Correction: On
Super-Transparency AA: On
Antistropic: 16x

Optimizations:
Texture Filtering: High Quality
HDR: Off (both in-game and in nHancer)

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9646/jaggiezlq3.jpg

Here is an example of it. Every time the ship moves, there's shimmering going on with the textures. The guns look like they're sparkling and little bands wash up and down my ship. It looks like crap and no other settings I've tried fixes it. You can see what I'm saying with the texture distortion on the panel right above the thrusters.

Anyone else have a 7800 and have been able to get it to look good?

Jenny Loo
Posted - 2008.05.14 07:17:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Jenny Loo on 14/05/2008 07:18:47
Those of you who were asking about 8800 GTS and GTX temperatures.

I did some research on this case after my gpu went 80C. Do you honestly believe that anything above 70C is healthy for your vga? What my research revealed was that 8800 gpu's bios are configured in a strange way. By default settings your gpu fan works at 36% all the time, until the temp reaches 90C or so. Then it speeds up killing the temp.

There are 2 ways to make your gpu cooler. First and the easiest one is using ntune/rivatuner set the manual fan speed to 60% (more than 60% will speed up your fan and cause more noise. Try 100% you'll see what I mean). 60% speed is enough to maintain <60C gpu. The second way is to manually edit gpu's bios (what I wouldn't recommend if you have no clue how to do it). Bios editing is more efficient tho as you can edit conditions like if the temp get's higher than 60 or 70C, then fan will speed up till the temp drops to a certain level and then it will slow down.

All in all the fastest way to increase your vga's lifetime is to get riva or ntune and maintain a higher fan speed than 36%. The ridiculous original bios settings are far from trusting them.

CODE RED
Caldari
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.14 19:07:00 - [139]
 

Hey gents, I run a pair of 8800GT's in SLI with 4GB RAM on a quad core Intel. I am running nHancer with the default setup for EVE online which is SLI:AFR[0x02400001] with HDR on High and maxed graphics in game.

The game runs great however I get an odd slow down only when I am rolling the view around in space and I move in a cicrle, every time I roll to where the sun is just out of view it slows to 20 fps from 230 fps. If I look at my ship and the sun and move it just right it will cause the slow down as well. Very annoying. Other then that I get 200+ fps. Thoughts?

CODE RED
Caldari
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.14 21:40:00 - [140]
 

UPDATE:

It seems like it only happens when planets and stargates are around at the same time. Very odd.

CODE RED
Caldari
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.15 12:31:00 - [141]
 

UPDATE: I turned off SLI and still get 160+ frames and zero problems runs like a dream :) I think it may have to do with the method that SLI does it's processing. I'll be messing with that tonight, had 'business' to handle within EVE :)

HydroSan
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2008.05.23 06:39:00 - [142]
 

Bump. Hope someone has an answer to my problem.

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.05.23 08:31:00 - [143]
 

The Geforce 6xxx and 7xxx series were infamous for their horrible texture flickering caused by using the anisotropic filter. If I were you, I would disable it completely as a first measure. If that doesn't work, turn transparency AA off. If that doesn't work, turn off both the anisotropic filter and transparency AA.

Additionally, check your Z-Buffer settings ingame. EVE recommends the 32bit buffer.

Also note: when you are only trying to force antialiasing, and leave HDR off, it is probably irrelevant which compatibility mode you use - since those are only really needed for using both HDR and AA at the same time.

MJ Maverick
IronPig
Sev3rance
Posted - 2008.05.30 20:53:00 - [144]
 

Edited by: MJ Maverick on 30/05/2008 21:05:22
Not working for me :(

Linkage

These are my settings:

Enhancements: Linkage
Optimizations: Linkage
Compatibility: Linkage

EDIT: 7950GT 256MB

s2k's Sister
Posted - 2008.06.02 14:00:00 - [145]
 

hey there. i know this was posted thousand times already but i dont know how to proceed. i have issues with aa and hdr. here my system:

C2D E6750, 8800 GTX, Nvidia Forceware 175.16 (the latest on vista 32), nhancer 2.4.1

i've setted everything up as thousands of times mentioned to work with the gtx and with the old drivers for vista and the old nhancer (i dunno the versions now) it worked. but now i had to upgrade my display driver because of issues with the nice game mass effect and i dont get the AA back in eve.

settings are:
AA: 8xS(Aufwert),Gamma,TranspSS
AACompat: 200100c5
AACompatDX10: f0000045
AF: App
AnisoFil+
MipMap:Tri
HDR:On

do you have any suggestions what i should do? please help me! thx

MJ Maverick
IronPig
Sev3rance
Posted - 2008.06.04 12:12:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: MJ Maverick
Edited by: MJ Maverick on 30/05/2008 21:05:22
Not working for me :(

Linkage

These are my settings:

Enhancements: Linkage
Optimizations: Linkage
Compatibility: Linkage

EDIT: 7950GT 256MB


Bump? It doesn't work lol

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.06.04 12:29:00 - [147]
 

For starters, uncheck the "enhance ingame AA" setting.

It didn't work for me until I did that (I have a 9600 GT).

Daniel Jackson
Caldari
Planet Watchers
Posted - 2008.06.04 16:51:00 - [148]
 

Edited by: Daniel Jackson on 04/06/2008 16:53:39
Originally by: s2k's Sister
hey there. i know this was posted thousand times already but i dont know how to proceed. i have issues with aa and hdr. here my system:

C2D E6750, 8800 GTX, Nvidia Forceware 175.16 (the latest on vista 32), nhancer 2.4.1

i've setted everything up as thousands of times mentioned to work with the gtx and with the old drivers for vista and the old nhancer (i dunno the versions now) it worked. but now i had to upgrade my display driver because of issues with the nice game mass effect and i dont get the AA back in eve.

settings are:
AA: 8xS(Aufwert),Gamma,TranspSS
AACompat: 200100c5
AACompatDX10: f0000045
AF: App
AnisoFil+
MipMap:Tri
HDR:On

do you have any suggestions what i should do? please help me! thx


what i have read people was saying

AACompat: f0000045
AACompatDX10: 00000000: general

So why does yours say:

AACompat: 200100c5
AACompatDX10: f0000045


Do you know somthing that we dont? if so Please tell us




And what is better for the AA

Multisampling
Supersampling
Combined
Sli

and what is the best setting to use in it

MJ Maverick
IronPig
Sev3rance
Posted - 2008.06.07 05:34:00 - [149]
 

Edited by: MJ Maverick on 07/06/2008 05:46:25
Supersampling but expect a hit on your FPS.

EDIT: No change after disabling the Enhance option :( Just to check, it does automatically update right? there isn't some magical "turn on custom settings" button is there?

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2008.06.10 21:29:00 - [150]
 

Originally by: MJ Maverick
Edited by: MJ Maverick on 07/06/2008 05:46:25
Supersampling but expect a hit on your FPS.

EDIT: No change after disabling the Enhance option :( Just to check, it does automatically update right? there isn't some magical "turn on custom settings" button is there?


Then I would go and disable everything not immediately needed.

I.e.:
- On the "Compatibility" tab, uncheck "force mimaps".
- On the "Optimizations" tab, uncheck everything
- On the "Enhancements" tab, uncheck everything except for "anti-aliasing", and pick a non-combined mode for starters, like 2x2 SS or 4x MS.

Then, if you get it to work, you can slowly start adding stuff back, and see where it breaks.

8xS combined is lousy anyway because it gobbles up performance but only supersamples the horizontal edges, and not the vertical ones. That's why it says "1x2 SS" - it means that the image is rendered at normal horizontal and double vertical resolution and then shrunk down to fit the monitor, thus reaching much less pixellated horizontal edges.

If you want the whole image supersampled, you need to choose 2x2 or 4x4 so that the entire image is rendered in double or quad resolution (poor graphics card YARRRR!!).

Or you simply use multisampling alone, which works by blurring the colors along polygon edges, making the 'staircases' much less obvious. it takes a lot less performance (4xMS goes faster than 2x2 SS), but if you're picky, it doesn't look as good (because well, you don't get perfectly sharp edges anymore).


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