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ToonAsju
Posted - 2007.12.03 09:44:00 - [1]
 

Hi I have some question about Concord. How strong is their warp distruption strenght.
Does it help if I put 1 wcs in my low slot? And if Im with bad standing and warp somehow to planet or belt how fast will they react ?

Any info is welcome !


techzer0
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.12.03 09:48:00 - [2]
 

You cannot dodge concord.

Faction police on the other hand... they're not too hard to avoid.

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.12.03 09:52:00 - [3]
 

Concord shows up, you are dead.
All ships scramble you, all ships nos/neut you, all ships jam you.

Standings has got nothing to do with it at all.
Basically, in 1.0 space, it means instadeath, in 0.5 space you may have around 20 seconds before they show up, and when they do you die.

Boobiq
Posted - 2007.12.03 11:28:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Concord shows up, you are dead.
All ships scramble you, all ships nos/neut you, all ships jam you.

Standings has got nothing to do with it at all.
Basically, in 1.0 space, it means instadeath, in 0.5 space you may have around 20 seconds before they show up, and when they do you die.


Tnx, but is it true that only warp scam can be active same time ?
And 20s is enough time to kill smth YARRRR!!

Drasked
North Face Force
Posted - 2007.12.03 11:40:00 - [5]
 

There is no escaping concord, if you did something to **** concord off you will die, if not then its considered an exlpoit.

in 1.0, concord will show up about 10~ seconds after the initial agression.

in 0.5, concord will respond after about 25~ seconds.

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.12.03 11:41:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Boobiq


Tnx, but is it true that only warp scam can be active same time ?
And 20s is enough time to kill smth YARRRR!!


20s is enough to kill something, yes. Just make sure you have an alt to pick up the spoils.

I'm not sure what you are asking but I'll try to respond.

You shoot somebody in 0.5, 20 seconds later Concord shows up with 10 ships.
10x Instalock
10x InstaScram
10x InstaJam
10x InstaNeut
10x DPSofDOOM
= 1x Dead Boob

Boobiq
Posted - 2007.12.03 11:46:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Originally by: Boobiq


Tnx, but is it true that only warp scam can be active same time ?
And 20s is enough time to kill smth YARRRR!!


20s is enough to kill something, yes. Just make sure you have an alt to pick up the spoils.

I'm not sure what you are asking but I'll try to respond.

You shoot somebody in 0.5, 20 seconds later Concord shows up with 10 ships.
10x Instalock
10x InstaScram
10x InstaJam
10x InstaNeut
10x DPSofDOOM
= 1x Dead Boob


OK thats all that I needed to know.
How fast will they get a lock on you ?
If Im in destroyer is it possible to warp to belt from stargate.
Is destroyer that fast?

SN3263827
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.12.03 11:53:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: SN3263827 on 03/12/2007 11:54:09
Originally by: Boobiq
OK thats all that I needed to know.
How fast will they get a lock on you ?
If Im in destroyer is it possible to warp to belt from stargate.
Is destroyer that fast?


I don't think you're asking about Concord. Concord show up if and only if you have a global criminal flag (you do something illegal).

If you are an outlaw or have bad standing to a particular faction, then faction police will spawn (4-6 depending on some random factor).

An frig or destroyer can easily avoid them by warping, but they will spawn anywhere in system - warping to an asteroid belt will just mean you have to warp out of the asteroid belt before they catch you.

Their DPS is pretty rubbish, tankable in a bc, so if you do get caught at the gate in one of these ships you can slowboat (doubled webbed) back to the gate. If you have a drone ship you can speed your progress by launching drones before the police aggro you - the police may web the drones leaving you to approach the gate unhindered, or otherwise the drones will defend you, blow up the offending policeman, and give you a short space of time to proceed unwebbed before his replacement spawns.

It used to be that once you killed the first spawn you could warp around in the same system unhindered, but apparently that was a bug Razz

welsh wizard
0utbreak
KrautbreaK
Posted - 2007.12.03 12:00:00 - [9]
 

This would be more interesting if it was titled "Concord in low-sec." !

Boobiq
Posted - 2007.12.03 13:06:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: SN3263827
Edited by: SN3263827 on 03/12/2007 11:54:09
Originally by: Boobiq
OK thats all that I needed to know.
How fast will they get a lock on you ?
If Im in destroyer is it possible to warp to belt from stargate.
Is destroyer that fast?


I don't think you're asking about Concord. Concord show up if and only if you have a global criminal flag (you do something illegal).

If you are an outlaw or have bad standing to a particular faction, then faction police will spawn (4-6 depending on some random factor).

An frig or destroyer can easily avoid them by warping, but they will spawn anywhere in system - warping to an asteroid belt will just mean you have to warp out of the asteroid belt before they catch you.

Their DPS is pretty rubbish, tankable in a bc, so if you do get caught at the gate in one of these ships you can slowboat (doubled webbed) back to the gate. If you have a drone ship you can speed your progress by launching drones before the police aggro you - the police may web the drones leaving you to approach the gate unhindered, or otherwise the drones will defend you, blow up the offending policeman, and give you a short space of time to proceed unwebbed before his replacement spawns.

It used to be that once you killed the first spawn you could warp around in the same system unhindered, but apparently that was a bug Razz


OK, but does this mean that if I manage to warp off to belt then I have some sec before the faction police arrives ?
Also I want to know what happens if I pop someone (player) in hisec

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.12.03 13:55:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Boobiq

OK, but does this mean that if I manage to warp off to belt then I have some sec before the faction police arrives ?
Also I want to know what happens if I pop someone (player) in hisec


Rolling Eyes

I'll try again.

If you attack another player in highsec you will be attacked by Concord. They arrive very fast in 1.0 space and you might get 20seconds in 0.5 space but they DO arrive, and then you die. If you warp away they will spawn again at new location, this time a lot quicker, and then you die. In short. Attack in highsec = Death.

If you have low standings with a faction and enter their space you will be engaged by faction police, this you might survive. If you manage to warp off, they spawn again at new location, you probably won't survive this as you are going to be scrambled and have no escape since you left the gate. They will keep coming until you have died or jumped out of their turf.

ToonAsju
Posted - 2007.12.03 14:49:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Originally by: Boobiq

OK, but does this mean that if I manage to warp off to belt then I have some sec before the faction police arrives ?
Also I want to know what happens if I pop someone (player) in hisec


Rolling Eyes

I'll try again.

If you attack another player in highsec you will be attacked by Concord. They arrive very fast in 1.0 space and you might get 20seconds in 0.5 space but they DO arrive, and then you die. If you warp away they will spawn again at new location, this time a lot quicker, and then you die. In short. Attack in highsec = Death.

If you have low standings with a faction and enter their space you will be engaged by faction police, this you might survive. If you manage to warp off, they spawn again at new location, you probably won't survive this as you are going to be scrambled and have no escape since you left the gate. They will keep coming until you have died or jumped out of their turf.


By that I meant that is ganking in hisec OK with CCP ? SmileYARRRR!!

Strife Phoenix
Blade Enterprises
Posted - 2007.12.03 15:18:00 - [13]
 

Yes. It's ok as long as you die as a result of it..

Tchell Dahhn
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2007.12.03 15:43:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Yes. It's ok as long as you die as a result of it..


LOL. I've been playing a total of three days, and even *I* figured that one out! (More power to the player who's willing to sacrifice everything just to get a hisec kill... ...and by "a", I mean "one".)

Requiescat
Red Arsenal
Posted - 2007.12.03 15:47:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Tchell Dahhn
Originally by: Strife Phoenix
Yes. It's ok as long as you die as a result of it..


LOL. I've been playing a total of three days, and even *I* figured that one out! (More power to the player who's willing to sacrifice everything just to get a hisec kill... ...and by "a", I mean "one".)


I have a friend who ganked a barge in a rax in .5 and got away :s

Escaping or any other method of not dying to CONCORD after being criminally flagged in high sec is considered an exploit, this is correct

...but the actions that get you concordoken'd are perfectly legal


 

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