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CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2007.11.19 17:50:00 - [1]
 

It's that time again, and now we're going for a double portion. The first story is part of our regular storyline, and is in fact a crucial part that you don't want to miss. Nothing will be the same after this.

The second story is a background piece that gives you insight into the faction that is the Society of Conscious Thought. Since it doesn't forward the Black Mountain storyline I decided to publish it alongside a more regular story. I'll do the same for the Sisters of EVE later on.

Kai Zion
Posted - 2007.11.19 19:37:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Kai Zion on 25/11/2007 16:38:35
I really encourage you to do more Chronicles like this, if you can. Often these sorts of conceptual explorations can really go places, beyond simple glimpses that scratch the surface and into deeper levels that plug far wider gaps of the vast Eve backstory, sometimes in ways nobody can even envisage, not even the author. That's the risk and the thrill of it all. Smile

Keep up the good work. Smile

Removed some ramble...so that you might remember the important part at least :/

CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2007.11.29 17:13:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Kai Zion
Often these sorts of conceptual explorations can really go places, beyond simple glimpses that scratch the surface and into deeper levels that plug far wider gaps of the vast Eve backstory, sometimes in ways nobody can even envisage, not even the author. That's the risk and the thrill of it all. Smile
There'll be another one coming up in a few weeks' time, but that one aside I'm not planning any infodump chronicles in the foreseeable future. I fully understand the desire for more explicit roleplay material, but as I've commented on extensively in the past, infodump pieces simply sacrifice too much else. The deepest levels that the chronicles can reach, the ones that make them worth reading for new players and old, are reached in the narratives, where a piece like "The History of Flight" wins hands down over Hyperconsciousness.

Kai Zion
Posted - 2007.11.30 10:38:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Kai Zion on 30/11/2007 10:48:36
Sorry I probably didn't make myself really clear. I'm not so much encouraging "infodump" Chronicles (good name for them btw Razz) good as they are to read and for RP purposes. I know the "RP Community" has badgered you about that and I'm not trying to make you revisit the issue for the 100th time. I meant more just Chronicles that deal with "ideas" per se. What I love most about Hyperconsciousness isn't the information dumped within it, but the ideas it explores, the way it tackles things on a more abstract level than just a narrative usually can.

By and large I'd guess the Eve community simply wants "a good story", which you provide in spades. Sometimes that sort of narrative doesn't lend itself fully to the exploration of ideas though as you're focused more fully on exposition and getting the ideas of the story out more than any others.

The History of Flight though, that is a great example of tackling this stuff in narrative format. It's actually my favorite Chron by far for that very reason, it's a cool mix of ideas and story. I guess you could say it's a mix of a philosophy and storytelling, like reading a Camus novel or something. I'd love to see more of that sort of stuff, particularly when it's integrated into narratives in fact. It's just my opinion of course, but I think you're at your best when you're working on the more "conceptual" level. Those parts of your narratives shine the most to me personally.

Thanks for the reply Abraxas, looking forward to the stories that lie ahead. Cool

CCP Abraxas

Posted - 2007.11.30 11:48:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Kai Zion
I meant more just Chronicles that deal with "ideas" per se.
Thanks for the clarification. That sort of thing - and if I understand you correctly, it would include something like "A Mind of Infinite Complexity" - is something that I've started to explore more in recent times, in part because the chronicles are getting a little longer and thus allowing me space to do it, and in part because I've gotten more confidence as a writer. Smile

Once Black Mountain concludes, some time in March/April, I'll publish a coda called "The Book of Emptiness". You'll want to read that one, I think.

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.12.03 07:29:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 03/12/2007 07:33:10

As a suggestion:
What I would really like to see in the chronicles are "Primary sources" from each of the empires.

"Documents" our characters can interact with.

My main complaint with these narratives, is that I cant "know" them IC. Its also my main complaint with "infodump" chrons like the Tetrimon chron. I cant tell what is common knowledge withen them.

What I would really like to see are things that 1. are not interpreted for me and 2. are things that I can use.

So, give us the state of the union address from Foritan. Give us excerpts from the Pax Am. Give us Amarrian Saint's lives, Matari stories of rebellion, or perhaps a scene from a popular movie or series.

The one key really to me thinking a chronicle is helpful, should be that they be things that our characters can understand and interact with in the world.

I guess, Id love it if with new chron concepts, the question of "is this accessible to characters" would be asked.

Consider the difference that would exist if, for example, this "black mountain" series was a popular drama on the media, the EVE equivalent of 24.

If that was the case, it would not only be a good story, but players RPing could interact with it, and use it as a talking point. Rather than adding content only for the time it is being read, it would add content as another RP prop for people to use.

We cant just make it fit like that though, cause everyone would make it fit differently, that really has to be on your end.


 

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