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CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.11.19 12:24:00 - [1]
 

You may have spotted the EON people at the Fanfest in their white shirts, and even talked to them. Zapatero talked to a lot of you at least and he's written down his thoughts on your feedback. Advertisements in EON is getting more expensive, but you will gain more in the form of your ads showing up in the EVE splash screen for everyone to see as they log in. Make sure you get your ad in before the dealine!

Please read Getting the message across, a new blog by Zapatero, to get all the details.

ThisAlt IsUseless
Posted - 2007.11.19 12:34:00 - [2]
 

nice!

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2007.11.19 12:37:00 - [3]
 

mmm EON....

zeeZ Exus
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
Posted - 2007.11.19 13:43:00 - [4]
 

I'll buy eleventy, lemme just grab my credit ca... oh.

burning raven
omen.
Posted - 2007.11.19 14:00:00 - [5]
 

actually looks cool :(

Xaen
Caldari
Aperture Harmonics
K162
Posted - 2007.11.19 14:10:00 - [6]
 

Magazine updates in a developer blog? Where are the forum moderators when you need one? This is obviously the wrong forum for this!

Linkel
Minmatar
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
Posted - 2007.11.19 14:31:00 - [7]
 

I would love to read your mags if only you accept Direct Debits!!!! Man whats wrong with Direct Debits or Paypal?

N1fty
Galactic Shipyards Inc
Huzzah Federation
Posted - 2007.11.19 15:33:00 - [8]
 

So is it 700M ISK per ad or 800M ISK? You quoted two different numbers there.

Thrawnfl
Posted - 2007.11.19 15:36:00 - [9]
 

*snip* Please stay on topic - Valorem

ISD Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc


ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.11.19 15:50:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: N1fty
So is it 700M ISK per ad or 800M ISK? You quoted two different numbers there.



damn somone beat me to it

Quote:
So from E-ON issue 10, ad rates will be increased to 700m per page.

Quote:
and ads will now cost 800m ISK

Altaree
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.11.19 16:06:00 - [11]
 

Why is this stuff considered dev blog worthy and not just announcements or news?

gordon861
Minmatar
PROGENITOR CORPORATION
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.11.19 16:36:00 - [12]
 

How about blogging the stuff we actually want to know about, like what is happening with Trinity. The how/when/why etc of the changes you are doing.

Kweel Nakashyn
shadow and cloaking
Yggdrasill.
Posted - 2007.11.19 18:39:00 - [13]
 

Isk, isk, isk...

How many isk to get an E-ON ? :D

Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2007.11.19 18:44:00 - [14]
 

700m.

- Z

Riley Craven
Caldari
Raata Invicti
Reckoning.
Posted - 2007.11.19 18:55:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Zapatero
700m.

- Z


Looks like some one didnt see the Economic lecture of Eve at fanfest. :P

Say it with me "There is no inflation in Eve".

Ask the good doc, I am sure he would be more than willing to give you a lecture one it!

Kw4h
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.11.19 19:50:00 - [16]
 

If people can get their ad on the Splash screen, why can't you offer something for the ingame billboards? That would really be cool, as it would give them a real purpose too! :D

Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2007.11.19 20:39:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Zapatero on 19/11/2007 20:43:33
Originally by: Riley Craven
Originally by: Zapatero
700m.

- Z


Looks like some one didnt see the Economic lecture of Eve at fanfest. :P

Say it with me "There is no inflation in Eve".

Ask the good doc, I am sure he would be more than willing to give you a lecture one it!


I'm sure he would, however workers do not always refer to economic reality when they demand a pay rise, as I'm sure you can appreciate.Wink

Originally by: Kw4h
If people can get their ad on the Splash screen, why can't you offer something for the ingame billboards? That would really be cool, as it would give them a real purpose too! :D


We at EON have asked CCP this a number of times over the last 3 years, as have players, believe me Smile I'm sure all us with something to promote, EON, EVE TV, EVE Radio, websites and alliances, etc, would love to be able to buy in-game billboard ads.

- Z


Terail Zoqial
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.19 21:04:00 - [18]
 

You guys are really shooting yourself in the foot, for the love of gads, PLEASE have a solo or paypal option. I'm sure you would sell a shed load more units.

I for one would buy in an instant, it wouldn't be so bad if a dev left a message stating why there are no other payment plans and why.

WE WANT YOUR STUFF!!!!!


please Smile

Phoenix Pryde
Caldari
3-I Area 42
Posted - 2007.11.19 23:27:00 - [19]
 

Will EON 10 be out before christmas, or only in january ?


Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2007.11.20 00:48:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Terail Zoqial
You guys are really shooting yourself in the foot, for the love of gads, PLEASE have a solo or paypal option. I'm sure you would sell a shed load more units.

I for one would buy in an instant, it wouldn't be so bad if a dev left a message stating why there are no other payment plans and why.

WE WANT YOUR STUFF!!!!!


please Smile


Smile EON is sold through the EVE Store and therefore can only be purchased via payment methods the EVE Store supports. That said, I know CCP are working on expanding the options in that regard, but I don't know when they will become active. I'm sure kieron will be able to enlighten people when that will be, in good time, of course Wink

EON #010 will be arriving on doormats and in mailboxes from the first weekend in Jan

- Z


Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.11.20 05:55:00 - [21]
 

Will we be able to disable advertisements on the EVE splash screen? I really don't like the ads CCP puts there already, I don't want to be subjugated to any more.

torswin
Society Of The Abattoir
Posted - 2007.11.20 09:39:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Verite Rendition
Will we be able to disable advertisements on the EVE splash screen? I really don't like the ads CCP puts there already, I don't want to be subjugated to any more.

I agree with this girl. We get ads enough places already. Some of us play to get away from the crap they vomit at us constantly. I don't want to get vomited on more than neccessary.

And why does this go to developers blog? I thought MMM publishing was it's own company without connection to CCP. That's what you've said all along, as far as i know.

Think of the children!

Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2007.11.20 17:51:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: torswin
Originally by: Verite Rendition
Will we be able to disable advertisements on the EVE splash screen? I really don't like the ads CCP puts there already, I don't want to be subjugated to any more.

I agree with this girl. We get ads enough places already. Some of us play to get away from the crap they vomit at us constantly. I don't want to get vomited on more than neccessary.

And why does this go to developers blog? I thought MMM publishing was it's own company without connection to CCP. That's what you've said all along, as far as i know.

Think of the children!


Vomiting on people is not our aim Smile. Ads in EON really ad to the experience of reading it and we want to use those ads on the splash screen. These are not EON ads, but ads for EVE alliances, corps and websites. By your reasoning I assume you'd rather CCP took the billboards out of the game rather be able to make use of them? As for ads advertising EON, we're aiming to make those less "BUY THIS NOW, IT ROCKS" into ads that are a bit more subtle and interesting/amusing. You will of course be free to ignore them Wink

MMM Publishing is separate from CCP, yes, but EON magazine is very much a collaboration. I agree though that using Dev Blogs is not the best way, but atm it is the only way for me to get the message across. Wink

- Z

torswin
Society Of The Abattoir
Posted - 2007.11.20 18:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Zapatero
Originally by: torswin

I agree with this girl. We get ads enough places already. Some of us play to get away from the crap they vomit at us constantly. I don't want to get vomited on more than neccessary.

And why does this go to developers blog? I thought MMM publishing was it's own company without connection to CCP. That's what you've said all along, as far as i know.

Think of the children!


Vomiting on people is not our aim Smile. Ads in EON really ad to the experience of reading it and we want to use those ads on the splash screen. These are not EON ads, but ads for EVE alliances, corps and websites. By your reasoning I assume you'd rather CCP took the billboards out of the game rather be able to make use of them? As for ads advertising EON, we're aiming to make those less "BUY THIS NOW, IT ROCKS" into ads that are a bit more subtle and interesting/amusing. You will of course be free to ignore them Wink

MMM Publishing is separate from CCP, yes, but EON magazine is very much a collaboration. I agree though that using Dev Blogs is not the best way, but atm it is the only way for me to get the message across. Wink

- Z


It was a bit hash written Razz

What I meant was that adverts in the magazine isnt a bad thing, especially if it's about eve alliances and stuff. But I wouldn't like to see adverts being placed everywhere inside the EVE client. We got too much adverts spewed at us already in real life.

But making the billboards show adverts for ingame alliances wasnt a too bad idea. I was more thinging along with "Support your local dentists, drink Coca Cola!" when you said adverts, but now i realise that you mean ingame-related ones. I could live with that :)

But my point that I would love to be able to PLAY and not just have to filter through 129481264918^214180 adverts still stands. I just have the experience that once you allow something in a "weak" way, it will at the end develop into accepting more than you intended.

Verite Rendition
Caldari
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
Posted - 2007.11.26 08:15:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Zapatero

Vomiting on people is not our aim Smile. Ads in EON really ad to the experience of reading it and we want to use those ads on the splash screen. These are not EON ads, but ads for EVE alliances, corps and websites. By your reasoning I assume you'd rather CCP took the billboards out of the game rather be able to make use of them? As for ads advertising EON, we're aiming to make those less "BUY THIS NOW, IT ROCKS" into ads that are a bit more subtle and interesting/amusing. You will of course be free to ignore them Wink

MMM Publishing is separate from CCP, yes, but EON magazine is very much a collaboration. I agree though that using Dev Blogs is not the best way, but atm it is the only way for me to get the message across. Wink

- Z

Zap, don't take it the wrong way, I've seen the EON ads and they're very very nice. In fact I think they would be absolutely great to put on the billboards, it adds a richer environment to the game. However that doesn't mean they belong on the login screen, especially since it's now a full screen thing. CCP already takes a little more liberty than I'd like to see throwing up other things on that screen, I really don't want to see anything on that screen, be it CCP ads or amusing pieces from players. For that kind of thing we have more appropriate elements like the forums, EON, the billboards, and even the daily news feed is more appropriate.

I really don't want to have to see someone write the EVE version of AdBlock, but people are going to try blocking those things if you add them, because the frequency is no doubt going to be much greater than that of CCP's handful of current ads. We don't want to ignore them, we want to not see them in the first place.

Zapatero


E-ON
Posted - 2007.12.02 09:55:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Verite Rendition
Originally by: Zapatero

Vomiting on people is not our aim Smile. Ads in EON really ad to the experience of reading it and we want to use those ads on the splash screen. These are not EON ads, but ads for EVE alliances, corps and websites. By your reasoning I assume you'd rather CCP took the billboards out of the game rather be able to make use of them? As for ads advertising EON, we're aiming to make those less "BUY THIS NOW, IT ROCKS" into ads that are a bit more subtle and interesting/amusing. You will of course be free to ignore them Wink

MMM Publishing is separate from CCP, yes, but EON magazine is very much a collaboration. I agree though that using Dev Blogs is not the best way, but atm it is the only way for me to get the message across. Wink

- Z

Zap, don't take it the wrong way, I've seen the EON ads and they're very very nice. In fact I think they would be absolutely great to put on the billboards, it adds a richer environment to the game. However that doesn't mean they belong on the login screen, especially since it's now a full screen thing. CCP already takes a little more liberty than I'd like to see throwing up other things on that screen, I really don't want to see anything on that screen, be it CCP ads or amusing pieces from players. For that kind of thing we have more appropriate elements like the forums, EON, the billboards, and even the daily news feed is more appropriate.

I really don't want to have to see someone write the EVE version of AdBlock, but people are going to try blocking those things if you add them, because the frequency is no doubt going to be much greater than that of CCP's handful of current ads. We don't want to ignore them, we want to not see them in the first place.


The ads won't be appearing every day, and I'm sure they won't be full-screen. The login screen is the doorway to EVE; neither in-game or out, and therefore absolutely the BEST place to have ads.

- Z

Rheinhart Vos
Caldari
Posted - 2008.01.13 13:31:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Terail Zoqial
You guys are really shooting yourself in the foot, for the love of gads, PLEASE have a solo or paypal option. I'm sure you would sell a shed load more units.

I for one would buy in an instant, it wouldn't be so bad if a dev left a message stating why there are no other payment plans and why.

WE WANT YOUR STUFF!!!!!


please Smile

Another vote for PayPal.


 

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