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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.11.22 11:01:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
o rly, major stallion?


Yeah, really.

Cruthensis
Gallente
Xeno Tech Corp
Self Destruct.
Posted - 2007.11.22 11:55:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
o rly, major stallion?

Yeah, really.


/signed
Really.

(so cute! she's learnt 'o rly'!)

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.22 11:59:00 - [63]
 

no wai! Shocked

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2007.11.22 12:32:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: Major Stallion
no one is stupid enough to pay what youd ask for....especially not for a char thats been e-bay'd and had its value depreciated by a moron.


Hey, i'd buy Jenny Spitfire, but make it public she's my lil toy now Laughing

The Lobster
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.11.22 15:15:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Wendat Huron


you're The Lobster, hook up with some woman gamers on a PvP date and you'll always be primary.


Wha....

What have I missed here?

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.11.22 19:58:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Jin Entres
Roughly, it would seem you need over 35-40% of your skills to be charisma primary for it to be worth it to have high starting charisma.

This conclusion is grasped out of thin air... just replace "charisma" with any other attribute to see what I mean.
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Now let's assume that all of these skills are charisma primary, which I'm pretty sure aren't

Yes they are all charisma primary (wil sec), and all social are charisma primary (int sec).

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.22 20:03:00 - [67]
 

Sheriff Jones, how much?

Pitt Bull
Caldari Naval Reserve
Posted - 2007.11.22 20:21:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Ruah Piskonit
I am personally too attatched to my character(s) to sell and would feel like I had somehow bought something that would never be mine if I did ever buy a character - which I never will. And yes, it is not logical or realistic to think this. . .

Ultimatly, I agree with Verone. Character sales are not healthy, neither is GTC selling for ISK by players - just throws everything out the window in my book.


I agree with this.

Jin Entres
Malevolent Intervention
Posted - 2007.11.30 11:34:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jin Entres
Roughly, it would seem you need over 35-40% of your skills to be charisma primary for it to be worth it to have high starting charisma.

This conclusion is grasped out of thin air... just replace "charisma" with any other attribute to see what I mean.


The number of available charisma skills, however, is disproportionate to the amount of available skills of other attributes. The variation of training paths, specialisation and utility is also much wider for every other attribute; leadership orientation is a marginal playing style, as is corporation management. And getting 30% of your skills to be charisma based means major specialisation, more and more level 5 skills with less and less efficiency. Most people who need corporation management, trading or social skills do not need or want more than level 4 on every skill (which there aren't many). Many of the first two are alts created for corporation management purposes and many of the latter are mission runners whose primary need in skills lie with other attributes.

Furthermore, the importance (or quality) of skills to different utilities is not in balance. A trader's efficiency does not depend on trading skills as much as a miner's or a mission runner's efficiency depends on their mining, refining, weapons etc. skills.

Leadership is only useful for non-solo players, very rarely for mission runners, and even in optimised use only one gang mod of one type applies its bonus. All these factors discourage people from training charisma primary skills, and when those skills are needed, they work best in lieu with other skills with more emphasis. Thus the charisma attribute is rarely viable to have any higher than other attributes.

And the number is not out of thin air, it's the average percentage of the examples I used. You could test if it holds for a wider range of total SP, assuming you agree with my math otherwise, but my estimate is that it does.

Originally by: Akita T

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Now let's assume that all of these skills are charisma primary, which I'm pretty sure aren't

Yes they are all charisma primary (wil sec), and all social are charisma primary (int sec).


I stand corrected.

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.11.30 12:25:00 - [70]
 

Ah, if you put it like that, you are correct... a "30+% charisma main SP" pilot is a heavily specialised pilot, indeed.
However, I was merely referring to the "x% to become worth having it high" part, which does apply to any attribute, not just charisma.


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