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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.11.19 20:09:00 - [31]
 

I guess you should settle for "FC sucks", "Stupid FC" or similar Twisted Evil

PhalHell
Minmatar
Ransom Thrive
Posted - 2007.11.19 21:07:00 - [32]
 

My next character will be baptised "D. nextname"

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.19 21:20:00 - [33]
 

Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :)

Too expensive to be honest ;s

FT Diomedes
Gallente
Factio Paucorum
Posted - 2007.11.19 23:01:00 - [34]
 

Skill points, specialization, learning skills, all matter. For me, if I ever were going to purchase a character, the name would be immensely important. I wouldn't want a name that was misspelled, or just plain stupid.

I always figured Dense Veldspar or Massive Scordite would go for a fair amount.

If I had to create a new account, I might go for Nobody as my new name (assuming it wasn't already taken). "Nobody is primary!" "Who has you scrammed? Nobody!"

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.11.19 23:54:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :)

Too expensive to be honest ;s


How much did you pay? Couple of hundred?

Xcom
Gallente
Quantum Vortex Battalion
Posted - 2007.11.20 00:15:00 - [36]
 

A while back I tried to make a char with a good name I liked. Was surprised about how many names are already occupied. Its ridiculous how many useless alts are taking up extra space. Some might have even been deleted.

Iím pretty sure that 90% of the names suggested above are already in.

Duck Andcover
Kind of Purple
Posted - 2007.11.20 00:32:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Duck Andcover on 20/11/2007 00:33:23
Originally by: FT Diomedes
I always figured Dense Veldspar or Massive Scordite would go for a fair amount.


There used to be a Concord Billboard, but I believe he was taken aside for a quiet word. Great names though.


Ancy Denaries
Posted - 2007.11.20 12:40:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Definetely names like "AmarrCitizen 875123" or "otcvwjhv" decrease value.
Famous and/or sci-fi themed names definetely add value.




Feh, I actually know an "AmarrCitizen" guy. Can't remember his number, though...

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.20 13:30:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
How much did you pay? Couple of hundred?


Too much ISKs to be honest. :s

the Entity
testicular Fortitude
Posted - 2007.11.20 14:27:00 - [40]
 

ive been convoed many a time 'uve got the name i wanted!' still waiting on a BIG offer tho (big enough that ill take >:D )

Maxpie
Metaphysical Utopian Society Explorations
Posted - 2007.11.20 15:17:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Verone
Personally, I don't agree with character sales at all in Eve... I think that one's reputation should stay with you throughout the game and you shouldn't be able to dodge the consequences of your actions by selling your char and buying a new one.




QFT!

Ruah Piskonit
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2007.11.20 16:06:00 - [42]
 

I am personally too attatched to my character(s) to sell and would feel like I had somehow bought something that would never be mine if I did ever buy a character - which I never will. And yes, it is not logical or realistic to think this. . .

Ultimatly, I agree with Verone. Character sales are not healthy, neither is GTC selling for ISK by players - just throws everything out the window in my book.

epic113
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.11.20 17:07:00 - [43]
 

used to be in the same alliance with a guy called no1one(or something like it) i was doing invites for our wing on a random roaming op. as we were leaving i hear on vent ''epic, no1one needs a invite'', i say something like, ok but why bother telling tell me that.

as the gang moves out a few jumps someone says that ''no1one is following us'' at this point im thinking the entire gang has been smoking some good ****, then the fc tells me to stop ****ing about and give no1one a invite as hes only a jump behind.

oh wait no1ones a person? Embarassed

DarkMatter
Sintered Sanity
Posted - 2007.11.20 19:26:00 - [44]
 

I'd sell mine...

It's just a game...

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2007.11.20 19:29:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: DarkMatter
I'd sell mine...

It's just a game...


I get more out of the game because I identify with my character somewhat. I couldn't imagine playing as anyone else. I'd only sell if I was going to quit eve for good. probably not worth that much either... 19M SP but a lot of skill choices that reflect what I want to do rather than the minimax consensus.

Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.11.21 06:13:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :)

Too expensive to be honest ;s


Eve has characters. Go back to WOW, and dont buy characters.

Tharim
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.11.21 06:24:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Orion Eridanus
Names of famous sci fi character would increase the price because many people would want that name. IE, The Doctor, The Master, Captain Kirk, Han Solo, Bobba Fett, Macgyver, Matlock


Id never paid a single isk for a character named The Doctor, The Master, Captain Kirk, Han Solo, Bobba Fett, Macgyver, or Matlock. No matter how many houndred million SP they got. I would be too ashamed to ever undock.

Or maybe i would buy them and let the account go inactive to make sure i never had to meet a McGyver or captain kirk in EVE.

Tharim
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2007.11.21 06:32:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: epic113
used to be in the same alliance with a guy called no1one(or something like it) i was doing invites for our wing on a random roaming op. as we were leaving i hear on vent ''epic, no1one needs a invite'', i say something like, ok but why bother telling tell me that.

as the gang moves out a few jumps someone says that ''no1one is following us'' at this point im thinking the entire gang has been smoking some good ****, then the fc tells me to stop ****ing about and give no1one a invite as hes only a jump behind.

oh wait no1ones a person? Embarassed


lolz


Sicil Fioet
Minmatar
Posted - 2007.11.21 07:44:00 - [49]
 

I'd pay more for something super specialized in one race i really want to fly rather than mediocre in three races, plus has a nice name and looks i.e. isn't an Achura named "isdfkjhs".

Assets are usually thrown in to sweeten the deal when the character is lacking or seller doesn't want the hassle of selling stuff separately, and as part of the batch they sell cheaper than you can sell them separate.

Jin Entres
Malevolent Intervention
Posted - 2007.11.21 08:21:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Sicil Fioet
I'd pay more for something super specialized in one race i really want to fly rather than mediocre in three races, plus has a nice name and looks i.e. isn't an Achura named "isdfkjhs".



That depends, though. I'd also value a character that is specialised in a ship class and can proficiently fly several races in that class. Personally for example I fly three races and the usefulness of skills like HAC V, CS V and Recon V is therefore a lot more than it is for someone strictly of one race.

I would never buy an Achura either. I probably wouldn't use one even if I got it free. Laughing

Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. ugh

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.11.21 09:48:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Jin Entres
Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. ugh

They make pretty decent industrialists, gang boosters and mission runners Twisted Evil
We have an intaki very old char in our corp, and he's choke-full on leadership/social skills, loads of L5s there, about 7 mil SP out of the roughly 30 he has.

Jin Entres
Malevolent Intervention
Posted - 2007.11.21 11:15:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Jin Entres
Btw don't buy Intaki, you're screwed for life. ugh

They make pretty decent industrialists, gang boosters and mission runners Twisted Evil
We have an intaki very old char in our corp, and he's choke-full on leadership/social skills, loads of L5s there, about 7 mil SP out of the roughly 30 he has.


Here are all leadership skills (ranks):

Leadership (1)
Armored Warfare (2)
Armored Warfare Specialist (5)
Siege Warfare (2)
Siege Warfare Specialist (5)
Skirmish Warfare (2)
Skirmish Warfare (5)
Information Warfare (2)
Information Warfare Specialist (5)
Mining Foreman (2)
Mining Director (5)
Warfare Link Specialist (6)
Wing Command (8)
Fleet Command (12)

Total: 62 ranks. One rank equals 256,000 SP, therefore 62 equals 15,872,000 SP when trained to level 5.

Now let's assume that all of these skills are charisma primary, which I'm pretty sure aren't but since I have no access to the game at the moment, I can't list the proper attributes. If primary, charisma will dictate 2/3 of the training pace. Therefore, 2/3 * 15,872,000 = 10,581,332 SP.

Let's say that a balanced character has half of his non-charisma skills int/mem and half per/wil (no matter which is primary). Now, a 30m SP character with all leadership skills at 5 would therefore have 19.42m (effective) SP that does not use charisma, and at equal proportions divided to the remaining four attributes that amounts to 4.85m SP used for each. For such a character, charisma would be more useful than any other attribute. For it to be equal with other attributes, such a character would need to have 52.9m SP.

Most characters however are either int/mem or per/wil oriented, which means that usually more than 2/3 of their SP will be using those attributes. For such a character of 30m SP, about 6.47m SP would be used by each dominant attribute if they trained all leadership skills to level 5. At 40m SP, the figure would be 9.8m SP, only 0.8m short of what charisma uses.

15M in leadership or any charisma using skills combined is quite unrealistic, and even 5M is rare and considered specialisation. With 7.5m (which is 5m effectively used by charisma as primary), if 2/3 of your other skills are either int/mem or per/wil (or mem/int or wil/per), at 20m total SP you stop gaining advantage from higher charisma and start losing. That point comes sooner if either of the dominant attributes is willpower because it also contributes to leadership skills.

Roughly, it would seem you need over 35-40% of your skills to be charisma primary for it to be worth it to have high starting charisma.

Cygnus Zhada
Viziam
Posted - 2007.11.21 11:55:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Ruah Piskonit
I am personally too attatched to my character(s) to sell and would feel like I had somehow bought something that would never be mine if I did ever buy a character - which I never will. And yes, it is not logical or realistic to think this. . .

Ultimatly, I agree with Verone. Character sales are not healthy, neither is GTC selling for ISK by players - just throws everything out the window in my book.


QFT, not that my chars are worth a damn, but still BUYING chars would feel odd too.

Thicky McThick
Posted - 2007.11.21 11:59:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Thicky McThick on 21/11/2007 11:59:40
An absolute must is to check the name and never get one that sounds stupid.



Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.11.21 14:01:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Thicky McThick
Edited by: Thicky McThick on 21/11/2007 11:59:40
An absolute must is to check the name and never get one that sounds stupid.





Nailed it right there. Its great to see internet bring out both the worst and best in people.

The Lobster
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.11.21 15:23:00 - [56]
 

Personally I would love to own a character called "Scotty, The Docking Manager" or something close (maybe "ScottyTheDockingMan").

Being called primary all the time would be worth the comedy value...Very Happy

Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
Posted - 2007.11.21 16:39:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: The Lobster
Personally I would love to own a character called "Scotty, The Docking Manager" or something close (maybe "ScottyTheDockingMan").

Being called primary all the time would be worth the comedy value...Very Happy


you're The Lobster, hook up with some woman gamers on a PvP date and you'll always be primary.

Major Stallion
The Money Shot Inc.
Posted - 2007.11.21 18:48:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Like my toon. Brand-name and specialization. :)

Too expensive to be honest ;s


no one is stupid enough to pay what youd ask for....especially not for a char thats been e-bay'd and had its value depreciated by a moron.

Skyy
Caldari
Sigillum Militum Xpisti
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.11.21 19:41:00 - [59]
 

What would I go for? My name rocks! But maybe the 60mil+ skill points could rake a buck or two.

Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
Posted - 2007.11.21 19:44:00 - [60]
 

o rly, major stallion?


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