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Azazayl
Minmatar
Nedstrand Fighter Wing
Namtz'aar k'in
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:42:00 - [1]
 

With the new update, Trinity, CCP will be unveiling a new graphics engine using the Shader Model 3. The pictures that CCP has released have looked great, but in this Dev blog: Delivering Trinity, the developer states that: " A recent Steam survey shows that about 52% of current graphics cards in use support SM3". I see this as a major problem. While this does not mean that only 48% of people actually have SM3 graphics card, it does mean that potentially many Eve players could be out of a game.

The biggest opponent to this argument is going to be that people need to update their computers to stay with the games and the hardware that is being released. I believe this, but at some point it gets rediculous. If a player did not have an SM3 compatable video card, at what point would that player want to pay $12.95 a month, then another $150 for a new video card to continue playing the game?

For those wondering, I do have a problem with some of the other changes that are coming with Trinity. For those even more concerned, my video card is capable of running SM3.

Jakus Cemendur
Caldari
Invicta.
Advocated Destruction
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:44:00 - [2]
 

The old DX8 compatible client will still be available for those without SM3 cards.

Andrommeda
Evolution
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:45:00 - [3]
 

oh man ...

its been said for more than once .. there gonna be two clients, one with the new gfx, one with the old, so everyone can continue playing

Akilum
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:46:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Akilum on 15/11/2007 14:47:35
Edited by: Akilum on 15/11/2007 14:47:11
This has been answered over and over again by players and by devs.

The player have two choices.
1. They play Eve like they do now (SM2)
2 They play Eve with DX9 (SM3).

It's not the case where the player is being forced to play with DX9, they still have the option to play with the DX8 (SM2) if they want to.

EDIT: God I'm slow when I'm @ work and typing a forum message. Oh well, what they said ^^.

Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Clinical Experiment
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:47:00 - [5]
 

Yeah, it's luckily that you don't NEED to update graphics, you still get all the goodies(or badies to some people evidently) of the ...patch?

The thing is funny really, some new guy flies by my abaddon and "ooh aaah"s at it's magnificent new graphics, and i'm flying about in a glorified gold hot dog Laughing

Higgous
Gallente
Divine Retribution
Sons of Tangra
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:48:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: CCP 2Kay
There will be two editions of the EVE client now, Trinity Classic with the old content, a more compact download which everyone will be able to run and Trinity, the upgraded client with the new content that utilizes the new graphics engine to its full potential.


Taken from the dev blog you linked too Neutral

Draaken
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:48:00 - [7]
 

Most recent games are using SM3 - so if you're playing anything other than EVE, chances are you'll need such a card anyways sooner rather than later.
Lots of gamers are willing to pay 50+ for a game that grants 15-30 hours of fun, and upgrade their graphics card anyways ... so I don't quite see why it'd be such a problem for EVE, especially considering that you don't have to upgrade, given the availability of the old DX8-client even after Trininty.

Azazayl
Minmatar
Nedstrand Fighter Wing
Namtz'aar k'in
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:51:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Andrommeda
oh man ...

its been said for more than once .. there gonna be two clients, one with the new gfx, one with the old, so everyone can continue playing


The single best reply, simply becuase you just pwnt yourself. I'm sorry, I really didn't realize that that was the case. I didn't read the entire dev post (I'm at work). But thanks for clearing it up for me.

Doomed Predator
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.11.15 14:58:00 - [9]
 

It's not like the devs always said(months ago and many times) that when the draphic upgrade would come they would keep a version with the current graphics.

Azazayl
Minmatar
Nedstrand Fighter Wing
Namtz'aar k'in
Posted - 2007.11.15 15:03:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Azazayl on 15/11/2007 15:04:56
It's not like maybe I decided to take a break from the game, make a new character and didn't feel like reading 3 months of posts to find that out.
Not to change the subject, but I did apologize, I did admit that I was wrong, but I still bet people will come here to flame.

Kale Kold
Mindless Griefing
Posted - 2007.11.15 15:06:00 - [11]
 

/fail

Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
Posted - 2007.11.15 15:20:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Kappas. on 15/11/2007 15:20:51
tbh a forum warning is in order for creating threads that have been made a dozen billion times before, and coincidentally answered that many times. Even the crappy search box at the top of the page gives answers to what you posted (or assumed).

b0ing
Caldari
INTERGALACTIC PLANETARY - PLANETARY INTERGALACTIC
Free Trade Zone.
Posted - 2007.11.15 17:05:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: b0ing on 15/11/2007 17:05:31
It's an option between the old DX8 client, and the new SM3 client, an Amarr fighter.

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.11.15 17:16:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Jakus Cemendur
The old DX8 compatible client will still be available for those without SM3 cards.


SHHHHHHHHHH dont tell the sweatshops that!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dramaan
Posted - 2007.11.15 17:29:00 - [15]
 

when new Trinty update comes you have to choses the Templar or Firblog

If chose Firblog you get the best of best of game.

If you chose Templar you will be forever nerfed and only can fly bad ship and pewneed by devs until you leave the game.
Razz

SoftRevolution
Posted - 2007.11.15 17:30:00 - [16]
 

SM3 cards cost thruppence. It is NOT a new feature. You definitely do not need to spend $150 to get one.

Commoner
Caldari
The Tuskers
Posted - 2007.11.15 18:23:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Commoner on 15/11/2007 18:23:58
Originally by: Akilum
Edited by: Akilum on 15/11/2007 14:47:35
Edited by: Akilum on 15/11/2007 14:47:11
This has been answered over and over again by players and by devs.

The player have two choices.
1. They play Eve like they do now (SM2)
2 They play Eve with DX9 (SM3).

It's not the case where the player is being forced to play with DX9, they still have the option to play with the DX8 (SM2) if they want to.


EDIT: God I'm slow when I'm @ work and typing a forum message. Oh well, what they said ^^.



Although it has to be said that sm2 is a part of dx9, my Radeon 9800Pro plays HL2 i dx9 mode just fine. :)

Lacranora
Gallente
Posted - 2007.11.15 18:31:00 - [18]
 

For all of you, that feel that people are going to run away from the game because of the updated graphics....

Way back in the day I used to beta test Ultima....during the 3D days. Everyone on the forum said that they would have to leave, because at the time it was a huge jump in graphics....

Guess what, the player base jump a good 20%

No one is going to post something that CCP has not thought about yet, your not going to say something that is so eye catching that they had no clue before hand.

Business is business, and yup, I hate having to update my rig, but when the time comes, you do what ya gotta do to play.


Andrue
Amarr
Posted - 2007.11.15 18:44:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Andrue on 15/11/2007 18:46:46

Angelik'a
Gallente
Posted - 2007.11.15 18:49:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Angelik''a on 15/11/2007 18:49:40
Originally by: Lacranora
For all of you, that feel that people are going to run away from the game because of the updated graphics....

Way back in the day I used to beta test Ultima....during the 3D days. Everyone on the forum said that they would have to leave, because at the time it was a huge jump in graphics....

Guess what, the player base jump a good 20%

No one is going to post something that CCP has not thought about yet, your not going to say something that is so eye catching that they had no clue before hand.

Business is business, and yup, I hate having to update my rig, but when the time comes, you do what ya gotta do to play.




In before your sig gets nerfed for lack of eve-related content YARRRR!!

Edit: And use the search function, you'll find the same thread 10's of times overRolling Eyes

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2007.11.15 19:11:00 - [21]
 

Wow my sig answers this post Shocked

Fanjita
Posted - 2007.11.15 19:58:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Andrommeda
oh man ...

its been said for more than once .. there gonna be two clients, one with the new gfx, one with the old, so everyone can continue playing


Nope only gonna be one client BUT you can choose to dload and play with the new graphic content or not the choice is yours.

Ur235
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2007.11.15 20:00:00 - [23]
 

Sm4 FTW :) on ut neway.


Anwylyd Al'Vos
The Knights Templar
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.11.15 20:01:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Anwylyd Al''Vos on 15/11/2007 20:04:00
/fail reading comprehension 101...

SM3 -> Available to those that can run it
Classic -> available to those that cannot

have a nice day

edit: they also made mention you can download it, see if it runs, then switch back to the classic if you can't/lag too much to appreciate the changes... AND there is a little program one of the devs wrote that checks your comp in like 2 seconds to see now if you can run it when it comes out...


 

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