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Posted - 2007.11.13 14:47:00 - [1]

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you for the Mac client. Although it has it's issues and isn't' quite up to speed, it is a very good first step. I have been playing EVE more now that there is a Mac client. I have only been mining in High Sec as I know that the bigger missions and PvP make the Mac client choke but I'm happy with that for now. I had been booting into Windows via Bootcamp but that gets old pretty quick. It's nice to just go from any Mac app and just click on EVE and start playing. I have gotten three more people playing EVE since the Mac version was available and am working on a forth. This should tell you something. There are lot's of Mac users that would play EVE if it was made into a full Mac version and not wrapped in Cider. I know your stance on this has been one of resistance and you had pretty much flat out said that you had no plans for a Mac client. I would ask that you please reconsider and develop a full Mac Client that is every bit as good as the Windows client. Heck, I would even pay more. I would ask that anyone else that feels the same way please post your support here. If enough squeaky wheels make noise maybe we can get some grease.

So once again, thanks for having at least a Sudo-Mac client available.


Posted - 2007.11.13 20:06:00 - [2]

while it would be nice, their programmers are basically DirectX only people, and they have invested tons already on DirectX, even workin on stuff for DX10 that is Vista only. Its more than likely that no programmer on staff knows anything else (very much or as well) as DirectX. I dont see them changing over to open standards like OpenGL and OpenAL etc... and its even less likely they'll split the game and make a DX version for Windows and someting else entirely for other OSes. Just be thankful Transgaming is helping out all these $#@%^√ companies that only know and use DirectX.

Akrinos LuCont
The Scope
Posted - 2007.11.13 20:09:00 - [3]

Id also like to pay my thanks- I would not like to get my thank U's mixed up with all the hooplah about the Mac issues on this forum!- its nice to see CCP listening to its MAC Clients!

as stated here before.

Iam voting with my wallet and remaining a mac gamer member!



Posted - 2007.11.14 02:20:00 - [4]

Edited by: Versteckter on 14/11/2007 02:24:09
Edited by: Versteckter on 14/11/2007 02:22:48
Well, what I'm hoping (and it's a big hope) is that the numbers will show that enough people want a Mac version and that it would pay off. Quick math, 10,000 Mac users paying $15/month, 1.8 million per year. I'm sure they could find some programmers to work for a piece of that.
Am I hoping for that? Heck yeah. Am I expecting it? Nah. But a few months ago there wasn't ANY kind of Mac version so I'll keep hoping.

Dors Venabily
Posted - 2007.11.17 15:07:00 - [5]

As the title say I say thank you CCP for making this possible. I used to play via boot camp and while it works perfectly fine it really gets old.
I installed the mac one and my happiness turned slightly sour.
The mac client and from what i know the linux one as well is somewhere in the public beta stage and really needs a lot of work.
Bugs not selectable window mode from options very limited resolution support and about 50 % performance drop vs windows and boot camp isn't what i had in mind. So i uninstalled it and play via boot camp for now till some of the issues are resolved.
So final evaluation very good beta and thank you for trying now fix those bugs :D

Posted - 2007.11.18 11:05:00 - [6]

I'd like to chime in and say 'thank you' also.

My 14 day trial has just reached it's conclusion and I am happy to say I'll be subscribing.

The client isn't perfect, but that's why I am paying to make sure CCP has my money and will work towards addressing these issues for their new OSX users.

Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.11.18 14:38:00 - [7]

Agreed... thank you! It is not perfect but is pretty good... and for whatever defects exist, at least we have something official now... I can play the game finally. :)

To echo what someone else has said, I would like to see more communications from CCP regarding Mac platform progress going forward. More dev blog action and etc. Also some page which links from the Client download page, which is updated often and lists "known issues" discovered or not fixed since last update/patch... and any workarounds. The forums are not the right place for that information (IMO). It'd be nice also if we can link each known bug to a page where everyone can help reproduce, collect data and otherwise help developers fix that bug.

Thanks again-


Posted - 2007.11.18 23:19:00 - [8]

This game is awesome, but a week ago I was convinced I wouldn't be subscribing when the free trial ran out. The freezes related to MacBook Pro's were a deal killer for me, but the dev team seems to have fixed it (Yay!). I too will vote with my wallet and subscribe because it appears they are really trying. I'll continue to play as long as they keep improving the Mac version, but if the game cannot eventually compete directly with the PC version (when my skills get to that level) I'll be outta here.

Rib Grak
Posted - 2007.11.19 16:53:00 - [9]

Another word of thanks. I am new to Eve. I've always been interested, but not enough to play in bootcamp. Now that the Mac client is out, I downloaded it last weekend and signed up. Please keep developing the Mac client and I will remain as a subscriber.

Grok Newbie
Posted - 2007.11.19 23:51:00 - [10]

Considering the only real MMO option to EVE on a Mac is WoW, I am more than happy at least this happened. Even if this client freezes now and then, it's way better than playing WoW, and if it should happen that it gets Mac native (I rather believe in something better than Cider, to be honest, as DX!=oGL, in every and any sense), even more so. Anyways, lets see where this all takes us, maybe one (far away...) day, the Mac will be considered a platform to develop your games for, too. So, thanks, too, for showing the courage of being on the frontier of Mac gaming! :)

Ed Anger
Weekly World News
Derek Knows Us
Posted - 2007.11.20 04:52:00 - [11]

bootcamp kicks cider's ass

Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.11.20 05:48:00 - [12]

Originally by: Ed Anger
bootcamp kicks cider's ass

dude, is that neccessary? bootcamp = windows no different than any other intel PC. This thread, in fact the whole "Macintosh" sub is about the mac client which nobody expects to be 100% equivalent to the windows native client in function at this point. It was just released. Your comments are not constructive.

Malice Unborne
Mercurialis Inc.
Wildly Inappropriate.
Posted - 2007.11.20 22:15:00 - [13]

I would like to say thank you as well - although EVE worked fine for me before via Crossover (or Bootcamp for fleet ops), the Mac client feels faster, and is anyway a definite step in the right direction. Good job, CCP!

Lauredris Maru
Lyrix Industries
Posted - 2007.11.21 18:20:00 - [14]

My thanks too CCP! Keep up the good work... and for what it's worth, I'll keep hoping for an OpenGL version one day and a truly native Mac client.

Tanris Hammer
Posted - 2007.11.21 20:48:00 - [15]

Thanks CCP.

But please, when you see how many Mac client users there are, at least think about doing a Mac Native version to replace the emulated version.

Katerina Poveloff
Posted - 2007.11.22 02:05:00 - [16]

Thank you for the mac(Cider version) it is better than nothing at all. This along with Ea making all their games to Mac will show some effort, atm i am using occasional GTCs but will fully subscribe if this goes native.


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