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Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:14:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Bakimi Ghevorchal on 23/11/2007 06:33:34
IPO IS NOW SOLD OUT

Praetoria Holdings IPO Plan

Chapter 1 - Summary of Praetoria Holdings
Chapter 2 - Background on origins/idea/current business
Chapter 3 - Coporate Governance
Chapter 4 - The Business Plan
Chapter 5 - Statement of Assets
Chapter 6 - Full Disclosure of Risks
Chapter 7 - Full Disclosure of Main and Alts
Chapter 8 - Exit Strategy
Chapter 9 - IPO Phases, Dividends, Market Cap
Chapter 10 - FAQ


Chapter 1 - Summary of Praetoria Holdings

Praetoria Holdings will be a Holding Company, with Visiontek Heavy Research the Corp generating the Profit that is returned to investors. The Profit shall be generated with copying Freighter BPC's and selling them to all the Invention / Tech 2 Builders out there who have been popping up like mad and will be needing the copies. I believe this can be done most effectively with Freighters, due to the Copy time, which will mean they will not be able to get enough of them for Invention purposes.
I very much want to place an emphasis on my belief that keeping it simple maximises the ease of Auditing and oversight, and also minimises the Risks associated.


Chapter 2 - Background on origins/idea/current business

I first started thinking of starting an IPO after reading the Market Forums for a while, and being impressed with the level of understanding for businesses on them. I myself used to work as a financial advisor, and read these things real life all the time, and I must admit, they were far more detailed, but I always wished for a 2 page overview to actually explain them properly to an enduser, not a 160 page Prospectus for example. So I started looking for an opportunity to do this myself, which I discovered approximately 10 days ago. This was when I realised that people were starting to get slightly wary of Invention / Tech 2 IPOs, due to the mass already out there.
At this point I realised that this could really be an opportunity, rather than a hindrance. That, with a simple idea, one could generate a good, stable Profit. This simple idea then, is to copy Freighter BPC's and sell them on, as there will be a larger demand for these very soon from all the Invention / Tech 2 Builders out there who will be needing the copies to invent / build the Jump Freighter. I also think that the copy time is a definate advantage, as this will mean they will not be able to get enough Freighter BPCs for Invention purposes.
The only other Person involved directly in this IPO, will be the alt of a current Corp-Mate of mine, Kithka, who is the current CEO of Visiontek Heavy Research. He has agreed to give this Character 51% of the Shares of Visiontek Heavy Research, and usage of the Corp for this Operation. The reason this is important is that he has already invested in the standings to get a POS in High Sec. This being said, he has no say in the operations of the running of this IPO, as I own 51% of the corp as protection. However, I will be paying him 20 mill a month as "rent". This will fall into the overheads, which will run to 110 million a month, a sum which has been taken into account for all dividend calculations (all numbers are end numbers, nothing tricked by making them pre-overheads or the like).


Chapter 3 - Corporate Governance

The Structure is very Simple. Praetoria Holdings will be a 1-Man Corp, with 51% of Visiontek Heavy Research, where the Research Alt will be placed to conduct the Copying of the BPOs. The Copies get transferred to the Holding Corp for Sale, to ease the Management and Sale of the BPCs, as well as Share Management. There will only be one character with Wallet Access, although, if it is requested, then I will gladly let in an Auditor of the Investors' chosing to also oversee accounts.

Iemue Cairr
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:15:00 - [2]
 

Chapter 4 - The Business Plan

Having noticed a climate of increasing expansion of T2 invention Corps, I believe there is one part that can generate a good Return. We have all heard of the new Jump Freighter coming, and for that there will be a big market for BPCs of the Tech 1 Freighters. This is where I see a good profit margin, as BPCs of Freighters currently Trade at over 200 million ISK. I shall set up this operation with 6 Freighter BPOs and a POS with 2 Advanced Labs (This will be done in High Sec, Visiontek already has the standings) to make Copies of these, although for the first 6 Months, I will be copying only 5, the other 1 will be in Research for Material efficiency.
During the startup of this venture, there will be a Period of 6 Weeks during which no dividend will be paid, as it will be the first copying phase. This IPO will also not have an end Date attached, however after 6 Months I will take a good look at how everything has developed, with attention to Detail on 2 Fronts:
1) Are the investors Happy as it is, and
if yes then 2) where could there be potential for expansion.

I want to make it clear now that there is not a plan for expansion from the beginning. However I will be keeping a look out to see if there is potential there at the end of the 6 Months for expansion if the Investors are happy, and would be willing to support such a move. They would of course get pre-release purchase rights.

This Character will receive no salary, however he will hold the 500 Shares not open in the IPO as his payment. Look at it as a Bonus System, the more the Corp makes, the more I get paid.


Chapter 5 - Statement of Assets

The Holding Corp will be set up with nothing, the Monetary Assets will be aquired with this IPO Offering, and will be used to purchase equipment in order to generate the returns.


Chapter 6 - Full Disclosure of Risks

There are only 2 main risks associated with this IPO:

This is that the price of Freighter BPCs drops significantly below 150 million ISK, even at 125 millions ISK, costs are covered and 5% Returns per copy phase can be achieved.
As I said, I believe very much in keeping it simple, because this minimises risk, and this point is really the only variable which is a threat to the returns for Investors. Liquidating Assets should return close to 100%, perhaps even a slight profit with Researched BPOs, however I do guarantee 90% throughout (again, pessimistic, I believe it would be more if liquidated).

The only other direct risk via association, would be a total reduction in my RL Health. To that I can only say, I am 23, very active and fit, and do not see that happening any time soon, however, should something serious happen to me, I will make sure an independent Auditor has full access to corp and assets. Financially, I am an International Sales Manager at a profitable Company, so I do not expect that to be any issue, anyways the Account is a power of 2 account which is already paid for 6 Months.


I will add any further risks here that might come up through questions from other players.

Scamming:

OK, the info in the Faq is obviously not going to be sufficient, so I will include it here again and go into it a little further.
I realise that this is always a risk with an IPO, that someone might be scamming. All I can really say, is that I have put in a lot of work with this plan and with crunching numbers 4 and 5 times over to know exactly what to expect.
I am also willing to listen to any suggestions from the Public, as to reasonable add-ins to secure this IPO. The possibility of an auditor for example is mentioned multiple times in this Document, and it should be someone chosen by you, the investors.


Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:16:00 - [3]
 

Chapter 7 - Full Disclosure of Main and Alts

My main is Feyloan. He is nealy a year old now, and has grown into a very skillful Miner/Refiner in this time. He will be a shareholder, but nothing more than that. I have created a research Alt (Iemue Cairr) to carry out the Research and Copying, and of course the alt posting this, who is the CEO of Praetoria Holdings and in charge of all administration of this venture. Therefore all Questions should be directed to this character.

My alts are the following:

Bakimi Ghevorchal (CEO of the Praetoria Holdings)
Iemue Cairr (Researcher in Visiontek Heavy Research)


Chapter 8 - Exit Strategy

If truly all goes to pot, and I have calculated very pessimistically as it is, then the Assets will be liquidated, with a minimum of 90% of the Original Share Price being returned.


Chapter 9 - IPO Phases, Dividends, Market Cap

Total Number of Shares
13,000

Shares Allocated for IPO
12,500

Price Per Share
1,000,000

Anticipated Market Capitalization
12,500,000,000

Dividend Schedule
See below

Total Dividend Payment
See below

Projected Return per Dividend Payment(%)
See below

Projected Return per Share
See below

Dividends:
The Dividends will be paid in a non classic sense. That is, every time a BPC is sold, 80% goes to Investors, the other 20% stay in Corp to cover expenses. The reason for this is that a monthly dividend would not be possible due to the cycle time of copying Freighter BPOs. There will also be an extra dividend at the start of the month, if all costs for the month have been paid and the Corp Wallet is over 50 Million ISK.
This said, the projected returns I will advertise will be 5% per month (50,000 per share). The reason for this is pessimism, I would rather say 5% and pay 8%, than say 7% and have a month where it only reaches 6,5%. The Numbers I have do project a higher return than 5% though, and there will be a monthly Report on progress, dividend payments within the month, and total % returns for the month. I want to reiterate, 5% can be achieved with a BPC Value of 125 mil, so it is very pessimistic.

Restrictions:
Max. 1 Billion ISK per Investor

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:16:00 - [4]
 

Chapter 10 - FAQ


Q: How do I know this isn't a scam?
A: For this I have no better answers than many of the People starting an IPO before me. If you trust me, invest, if you don't, then by all means post your fears and I will attempt to answer them as fully as possible.

Q: How do you know you'll be successful?
A: Diligent crunching of Numbers, and I also cannot guarantee the success, there is a risk involved, however I have tried to minimise this risk by keeping it simple.

Q: Why are you doing this?
A: Because I see this as a possibility to use the current climate of lots of tech 2 Corps to our advantage. I also believe this can be a lot of fun, for all concerned, and that this is primarily what a game is about, fun.

Q: Do you intend to have an audit done at some point?
A: If investors express the wish for it, then an independent Auditor of your choice would be welcome, and will be given full oversight, as also outlined above in the plan.

Q: What's your background?
A: My Main is in Mining, Refining and sometimes Manufacturing, and what my desktop background is, is none of your business...

Q: Will you ever buy back shares?
A: Shares will be bought back at any time, however with two restrictions. They will be locked for the first 6 Weeks, and until 1st March 2008 I will require one weeks Notice (that is maximum, it most likely will not be required, it is just a safety precaution). Buyback will be at 90% of price until 1st of March 2008, thereafter it will be 95%.

Q: Will you ever pay over 5% dividends?
A: Depending on profits. I have outlined the dividend above, and the potential for higher dividends is quite clearly there.

Q: What if someone War Decs Visiontek Heavy Research?
A: Such a case would only endanger the POS, as the BPOs will be stored in the high-sec station. The POS would be upgraded significantly on a defensive side straight after a 24 Hour Warning. Alternatively, I could just transfer POS and BPO's to the Holding Corp, leaving no assets in danger.

Q: This sounds familiar, does Synergy Development ring a bell?
A: I realise that this venture looks, at face value, very much like a carbon copy. The truth is, I had the idea the start of the month, and began crunching numbers. Just when I had started getting a proposal written up, Synergy came along, and to be honest, my heart sank a little. There are however a few very subte, yet important differences. My Monthly costs are significantly lower (110 million compared to 300), and I do not intend to go into Invention. I also have a totally new way of paying dividends, so I think this is a simple idea that can work. After talking with Ricdic, I also firmly believe that the market will not be overflowed simply because there is a second Corp doing this, especially as in Synergy's Phase 2 he will be using the BPCs himself. This being said, I do of course wish him all the best.

Feyloan
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:20:00 - [5]
 

Confirming that this is my alt, the Researcher accdentally posted the Second part of the Plan, so I will count her as confirmed as well.

So far just over 1,500 Shares have been purchased by my corp and friends, which I would also like to take into consideration on the point of me being trustworthy, and this not being a scam.

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 08:29:00 - [6]
 

Also, please send ISK directly to the Corp, not to this Character, and if you are investing, just post a short note here, shares will be distributed this evening around 22:30 eve time

Ambo
I've Got Nothing
Posted - 2007.11.13 09:00:00 - [7]
 

I like the dividend structure and, business wise, you seem to have covered almost everything I can think of in your plan and QA.

My main concern would be the fact that you are an unknown here. Synergy got around this by securing the investment with an expensive BPO so do you plan on offering similar security to investors in any way?

Also, your main will get 500 shares 'for free', the dividend payments on these will give you your salary but will you also recieve isk if the corp liquidates?

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 09:17:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Bakimi Ghevorchal on 13/11/2007 09:45:40
Originally by: Ambo
I like the dividend structure and, business wise, you seem to have covered almost everything I can think of in your plan and QA.


Thank you, good to see my hard work appreciated Smile

Originally by: Ambo
My main concern would be the fact that you are an unknown here. Synergy got around this by securing the investment with an expensive BPO so do you plan on offering similar security to investors in any way?


I totally agree that my biggest issue is the Trust part with me being unknown in these parts. However, this is a sound business plan, and I really am bubbling with motivation to put theory into practice.

I do however not have an asset, or assets comparable. This is why I wanted the Plan to make it very clear that I will listen to suggestions.

Originally by: Ambo
Also, your main will get 500 shares 'for free', the dividend payments on these will give you your salary but will you also recieve isk if the corp liquidates?


The 500 Shares are solely for my "salary". If the corp gets liquidated, then I will make liquidation value / 12500, those 500 shares will not count. It just seemed a fairer way to pay a gains-based salary.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2007.11.13 09:40:00 - [9]
 

Seems pretty solid to me, and its a well written plan. But i think we have a such IPO like this out already, tho it isnt all that important.

Have you considered having a third party lock down the BPO's? That will help you alot. Its the sole reason why CAP4U ever sold out, because there was security in place. And you can be sure, if you do that, many people will be interested.

How are you gonna copy them? Own POS?

Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.11.13 09:54:00 - [10]
 

You can't split dividends between different types of shares. However upon liquidation you can just have the shares in the corp wallet, and keep paying dividends until all the money is gone.

I know I read this plan pre-launch but I will ask these as I forgot earlier:

1) Will the BPO's be locked down in your corporation? So basically as investors will we actually see the BPO lockdown vote? Whilst there is an unlock bpo bug that can be bypassed, it is an exploit and CCP get involved if done. So this can add a little bit of security to your plan, and make people feel fuzzy inside if possible

2) Even though you are giving per-sale dividends will you provide monthly update/reports etc?

3) I would have brought this up with Synergy but I only found it today and kept the page handy as I knew your offering was gonna show.

dev post found here

Originally by: CCP Nozh
I think Chronotis did some magic to the BPO's to increase the success rate up to almost 100% as with the invention success rate


This was in direct relation to a question posted about the long copy times on freighters as an alternative to dropping their copy time. Do you expect this to have an impact on your operation if it takes effect, and if so do you believe it could be positive or negative?

Best of luck with the operation. I have spent some time with Feyloan in channels for quite some time and he was annoyed that someone else actioned almost the exact same plan that he was brewing up. Obviously it's no-one's fault just unlucky.

So, it's an unsecured IPO. I explained to him he may have some problems selling out due to the previous one, and the fact that this one isn't secured, and that he may need to decide on ways to make this one stand out differently to the Synergy one to promote it better. This is where the dividend per sale idea was adopted. With copies your prices are somewhat fixed so they actually have the ability to adopt this kind of dividend system. I think some people who like constant isk deposits will like this a bit more.

I think it will be fantastic having 2 almost identical corps, to compare the way they run and operate, to compare their performance levels etc. I also think having them both run by competent people we will see them competing against each other (in a friendly way) more to provide higher income to their investors.

Anyway, that's my take on it. EBANK have limited their investment to 250m due to the potentially lower returns and the lack of security. I personally haven't invested as this month is dedicated to finalising C-P-H.

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:18:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Seems pretty solid to me, and its well written plan. But i think we have a such IPO like this out already, tho it isnt all that important.


Correct, though I do believe the market has definately got space for a second, without influencing the profitability of either

Originally by: LaVista Vista
Have you considered having a third party lock down the BPO's? That will help you alot. Its the sole reason why CAP4U ever sold out, because there was security in place. And you can be sure, if you do that, many people will be interested.


I was always open to suggestion, and I am prepared to do this. However, the shares are in the holding corp, which owns 51% of the Corp in which the actual Copying will take place.

Originally by: LaVista Vista
How are you gonna copy them? Own POS?


Yes, POS in High Sec is stated in Business Plan.

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:31:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Ricdic
You can't split dividends between different types of shares. However upon liquidation you can just have the shares in the corp wallet, and keep paying dividends until all the money is gone.


That was how I planned on doing it in such a scenario, should have explained more clearly.

Originally by: Ricdic
1) Will the BPO's be locked down in your corporation? So basically as investors will we actually see the BPO lockdown vote? Whilst there is an unlock bpo bug that can be bypassed, it is an exploit and CCP get involved if done. So this can add a little bit of security to your plan, and make people feel fuzzy inside if possible


Basically, same answer as above. The BPOs themselves will be in the research corp in a High Sec Station with the Research Character. This does not mean I am unwilling to do this, just that any suggestion as to how I can do this without changing the setup would be welcome.

Originally by: Ricdic
2) Even though you are giving per-sale dividends will you provide monthly update/reports etc?


Yes I will. There is a Mailing List setup with the Corp name, I will post there each time a dividend is sent, and give a monthly overview, with % paid in a given month. This will also be posted in the Market Discussion Forums.

Originally by: Ricdic
3) I would have brought this up with Synergy but I only found it today and kept the page handy as I knew your offering was gonna show.

dev post found here

Originally by: CCP Nozh
I think Chronotis did some magic to the BPO's to increase the success rate up to almost 100% as with the invention success rate


This was in direct relation to a question posted about the long copy times on freighters as an alternative to dropping their copy time. Do you expect this to have an impact on your operation if it takes effect, and if so do you believe it could be positive or negative?


This is news to me, although I think this will have only a small effect long term. Short Term profits would possibly suffer, due to the Prices not rocketing up. There will still be a need for Tier 1 Freighters, as well as many people wanting the Jump Freighters, hence the Long-Term evaluation.

Originally by: Ricdic
So, it's an unsecured IPO. I explained to him he may have some problems selling out due to the previous one, and the fact that this one isn't secured, and that he may need to decide on ways to make this one stand out differently to the Synergy one to promote it better. This is where the dividend per sale idea was adopted. With copies your prices are somewhat fixed so they actually have the ability to adopt this kind of dividend system. I think some people who like constant isk deposits will like this a bit more.


Precicely. I also believe that this is about the only IPO out there that can pay the dividend in that way, as there will only be 5 (max. 6) sales a month, it would be unrealistic for most others.

Originally by: Ricdic
I think it will be fantastic having 2 almost identical corps, to compare the way they run and operate, to compare their performance levels etc. I also think having them both run by competent people we will see them competing against each other (in a friendly way) more to provide higher income to their investors.


Believing in a free market, I have to agree. The benefits outweigh the possible downsides. The market does definately have the capacity to satisfy both these Corps.

Originally by: Ricdic
Anyway, that's my take on it. EBANK have limited their investment to 250m due to the potentially lower returns and the lack of security. I personally haven't invested as this month is dedicated to finalising C-P-H.


Again, publicly, thank you for the help so far, and the trust put in me, through what you are saying, and through EBANK.

LaVista Vista
Conservative Shenanigans Party
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:40:00 - [13]
 

What i would suggest you, is to take down your own POS(More expensive to run yourself), and join Zzz alliance. Have some well-known person lock down the BPO's, and get copying. This will allow for safety and trust. Of course, this isnt a must.

You do seem like a very well-spoken guy. So i wish you good luck.
But i do have a few recommendations for you, if you want to convo me when i get ingame. Im not gonna post them here tho, so get in touch with me.

Ricdic
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:44:00 - [14]
 

Well having the security is all well and good, but I probably wouldn't put my hand up. I have secured a lot of operations of late and people probably want some new options as more and more isk is in my hands (God knows, it's probably gone from about 65b 3 months ago to around 100-130b today).

My lockdown question was in regards to you locking them down within your own corporations (no external security parties). As long as it is done within the same corporation. Anyway, if you do want to do that security thing Feyloan, feel free to contact me or anyone else who offers it. I wouldn't call it a requirement, just a quicker way to sell your shares. I reckon you will sell them regardless but it's your call.

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:49:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: LaVista Vista
What i would suggest you, is to take down your own POS(More expensive to run yourself), and join Zzz alliance. Have some well-known person lock down the BPO's, and get copying. This will allow for safety and trust. Of course, this isnt a must.


On principle this would be ok, to have me place 2 advanced labs there. However, the whole idea of the holding corp would then be nullified, I will not discount this though, I think it is a good idea. However, I would prefer to use it more as a last resort if this turns out to not be possible without.

Originally by: LaVista Vista
You do seem like a very well-spoken guy. So i wish you good luck.
But i do have a few recommendations for you, if you want to convo me when i get ingame. Im not gonna post them here tho, so get in touch with me.


My goodness, every posting here has compliments in it, my ego will be unbearable soon Laughing

I will definately convo you when I get online, however that will not be before 22:30 eve time. Currently at work, and will not be home before then. I might have a small gap around about 17:00 eve time, though I doubt it, but I will try.

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 10:55:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Ricdic
My lockdown question was in regards to you locking them down within your own corporations (no external security parties). As long as it is done within the same corporation. Anyway, if you do want to do that security thing Feyloan, feel free to contact me or anyone else who offers it. I wouldn't call it a requirement, just a quicker way to sell your shares. I reckon you will sell them regardless but it's your call.


Ok, the easy answer is, yes, I would be perfectly happy to lock the BPOs down within Visiontek Heavy Research. I would also be willing to transfer the 51% of that corporation from this Character to Praetoria Holdings. However, the investors are investing in the latter, and will not be able to see the lockdown.

Ishina Fel
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2007.11.13 16:09:00 - [17]
 

I shall be trustfully investing in this, because if the OP scams me, I know where he lives IRL and what he holds dear Twisted EvilTwisted Evil

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 16:18:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Ishina Fel
I shall be trustfully investing in this, because if the OP scams me, I know where he lives IRL and what he holds dear Twisted EvilTwisted Evil


Oh noooo, not my little sportscar Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sad

Potsnack
Posted - 2007.11.13 21:15:00 - [19]
 


Ok Bakimi, it's unsecured, but I like what I see, so
I'll kick-start it off with an order for 500 shares. Isk will be sent within the hour.

Good luck with the venture.

Cheers
Pot

Ricdic's Hoe
Posted - 2007.11.13 21:27:00 - [20]
 

I already started it at 250m YARRRR!! Yarr

Athias
Posted - 2007.11.13 21:27:00 - [21]
 

ISK send to Praetoria Holdings corp for 50 shares

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.13 23:55:00 - [22]
 

Thank you for your trust, shares have just been sent out, and title of thread will be updated again tomorrow morning depending on orders ugh

VO Mathilda
Posted - 2007.11.14 01:02:00 - [23]
 

250 million isk wired to your corp for 250 shares. Good luck.

Dreni
Posted - 2007.11.14 01:07:00 - [24]
 

ISK send to Praetoria Holdings corp for 200 shares

Crazy Wong
Posted - 2007.11.14 02:12:00 - [25]
 

Isk sent for 10 shares. Shocked

Jolaqa Voruska
Minmatar
Enigma Ventures Inc
Posted - 2007.11.14 04:50:00 - [26]
 

100M sent to corp Praetoria Holdings for 100 shares

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.14 07:43:00 - [27]
 

Shares were sent out this morning, about an hour ago to be exact.

For Regular Updates on this Venture, please Subscribe to "Praetoria Holdings" Mailing List in-game.

Drej Kirr
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2007.11.14 12:52:00 - [28]
 

I would like 50 shares if available.Transferring 50 mil Isk to Praetoria Holdings now.


Kara Rhane
Gallente
Rhane's Research and Development Labs.
Posted - 2007.11.14 12:57:00 - [29]
 

I'll be transferring 100 mill when the EVE server comes back up.


Please be aware that I might have to go to work and will keep my word to transfer 100 mill to your corp for the shares as soon as I return. Please see my thread link in my sig for trustworthiness, and a few people on here know me and how much I value my own and my corps reputation.

Thank you, and have a great day!

-Kara

Bakimi Ghevorchal
Praetoria Holdings
Posted - 2007.11.14 13:55:00 - [30]
 

I will be back online in approximately three hours, shares will be transfered at that point, welcome to the venture...


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