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Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.30 14:22:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 30/10/2007 15:42:40
I've read through each of the threads dedicated to station construction, and now I am left with a profound sense of not-knowing-wtf-the-authors-were-trying-to-convey.

Eggs?

Let's keep it simple starting here.

Could I get a synopsis of station construction with full detail of terminoligy used? What I need is an order of events, required materials to start and skill breakdown.

Thank you.

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.10.30 19:45:00 - [2]
 

OK I'll start you off. Egg is what you deploy to start the station to grow. They kinda look like one, or atleast used to. Easiest to go to market and see what is needed for it to grow, which is allllllllllllllloooooooooooottt!!! Hope this is an alt in an alliance cause if not, doubt you could put 1 up.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.30 23:30:00 - [3]
 

I need a lot more info.

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2007.10.30 23:55:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I need a lot more info.



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Falka Lakadaka
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.31 00:29:00 - [5]
 

If you read the sticky above about outpost construction and didn't understand it, then you're probably not ready to be putting up outposts.


Horchan
Gallente
Posted - 2007.10.31 00:50:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Falka Lakadaka
If you read the sticky above about outpost construction and didn't understand it, then you're probably not ready to be putting up outposts.




Hell, even if you *do* understand it, unless you have a nice happy alliance behind you, you're still not read to be putting up outposts...

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 03:17:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii
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Trash is what it is.

Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.

A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.

K'vire Shema
Posted - 2007.10.31 03:32:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii
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Trash is what it is.

Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.

A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.


Ok. You definately seem to be someone who is not ready for an Outpost. Thats a station to you. The post that ppl have said about is extremley good, all you need to understand it is some experience in Eve and some patience to actually read it properly.

To make an outpost you basically need to have an "egg" which is the foundation to create the outpost. From what I remember reading "a long time ago" you get a freighter = 1billion isk. Then you put the egg in the freighter along with the minerals needed to build the outpost with = cant remember how many billion isk that is but it is something daft like 25 bill and over "may be wrong". You also need to be in an alliance, 1 bill isk if making your own and need to have sovereignty over the system where you are putting it which means POS's which are further millions if not more isk. Then you put the ingredients together, stir and bake untill downtime, after downtime the station is up and running I think.

Once completed mail a member of BOB, Goons or another large alliance and then will pay you a visit and "help" manage it for you. Please note that once they come to "manage" it you will nolonger be able to dock there.

Read the other posts about Outposts, if you cant do that or dont understand them then stfu and have a good day.


Helen Hunts
Gallente
Red Dragon Mining inc
Red Dragon Industries
Posted - 2007.10.31 03:52:00 - [9]
 

The egg first has to be constructed, using the proper blueprint (lotsa cash) and a ****load of minerals. Once the egg is completed, then one grabs a freighter to haul it out to a planet and anchor it. Once anchored, all the goodies have to be dumped into the egg. (Janitors and such) If everything is done right, the egg grows into an outpost during DownTime.

Tandori Tanaka
Tanaka Stuff and Supplies
Posted - 2007.10.31 06:52:00 - [10]
 

what is this ? ebay kidz going from faction BS to outposts now Laughing

Carniflex
StarHunt
Fallout Project
Posted - 2007.10.31 07:26:00 - [11]
 

Shema got it right.

In a nutshell. Get ~30 bil. That will cover the egg and materials more or less (you will get egg by contructing it in factory using outpost blueprint), then you haul the egg out there to the planet you like, anchor it, fill it with few freighterfuls of materials, defend it until DT and after DT you will have outpost. After that all you need to do is to defend it from anyone who thinks that they would be better owners for that. Oh and you need to be in alliance ofc and have sov. in the system you are deploying it.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 13:16:00 - [12]
 

I'm surprised at the "egg" being just an egg. In such a technical game, I would have expected something more/// technical... than an "egg".

Did I read this right? Even if I construct an outpost, someone else can take it from me?

Thank you for the useful information.

Torrilin
Posted - 2007.10.31 13:25:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Did I read this right? Even if I construct an outpost, someone else can take it from me?


Yes.

Why? Because if you do not hold sov, you don't hold the outpost. Control of it goes to whoever holds sov.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 13:51:00 - [14]
 

I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?

Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
Posted - 2007.10.31 14:04:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Sphynx Stormlord on 31/10/2007 14:05:23
An outpost functions basically the same as a station in empire. For people who not only go to .4 and below, but have 50+ friends who do the same, and want to establish a base in 0.0

You might be more interested in getting a POS (stands for player owned station, but is much less like an empire station than an outpost is).
A pos will set you back a lot less, around 500 mil isk to a bit over a bil, as opposed to around 30 bil. They are built for corps rather than for alliances, and can be put in high sec for extra protection (although not from war decs).

POS's are used to provide extra manufacturing and science facilities, or a place to leave stuff, or a mining base.

Building a pos needs a control tower, and a moon at which to anchor it. You need various fuels to keep it running.
You will also want to anchor various POS modules, to allow it to do stuff.

POS control towers and modules fit inside an industrial ship.

I think there may be another sticky (called beginners guide) about POS construction in this forum too.

GC13
Caldari
Species 5618
R0ADKILL
Posted - 2007.10.31 14:06:00 - [16]
 

It's only stolen in an instant after weeks of heavy fighting for sovereignty in the system, with hundreds of enemy battleships hitting your cynosural field jammer and then supporting the dozens of enemy capital ships that jump in as they demolish your starbases and put up their own, being fought every inch of the way by your own dozens-strong capital fleet and hundreds-strong battleship fleet.

And then finally the siege of the station itself, where they need to drop the shields in order to claim it. And then when the shields are at 1 HP, THEN they get to think to themselves "yes, I am about to instantly claim a station."

Pheer my run-on sentence wall.

Tunak
Posted - 2007.10.31 15:07:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?


Lol. Scared to go to low sec but wants to put up an outpost.

You're not going to believe me but there are levels of this game that you cannot comprehend. Yes I know how that sounds but it's true.

The main thing your missing is that it is a multiplayer game. More so than any MMPOG I've played. There are certain things only groups can do. Make some friends and you'll see the rest of EvE.

Oh and get your ass into low sec. It's not nearly as scarey as you make it out to be.

Zan Tu
Posted - 2007.10.31 15:25:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Edited by: Kingpin Kempion on 31/10/2007 03:17:50
Originally by: Kaaii
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Trash is what it is.

Anyway, half-baked comments aside, I would like to know the process of constructing a station. It doesn't matter whether I can afford it NOW or not.

A simple outline would suffice. The author of the main thread was wordy and skipped a lot of information.


How do you know it skipped alot of information unless you know what is skipped? There are many many helpful posts in this thread and out. I think if you took more time to actually research a bit, do some investigative work before throwing up your hands you wouldn't illicit neg responses to your questions.

Theres no way you will "solo" and outpost, and since this would require massive support, logistics and....cash, you would either have to be "totally clueless" or a troll posting. Totally clueless isn't a bad thing if you ask nicely and do a bit of work yourself, or at least make an attempt to find the answers before you post, or else expect alot of responses like the above..

Zan Tu

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:06:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Missy Saints on 31/10/2007 17:08:15
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?



LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above...
As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk." Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game.. It's like reading the end of a book and bothering the author as to why did it end that way??

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:06:00 - [20]
 

Broken sentences, assumed understanding of game terminology and a general lack of communication skills all lead to gaps in information.

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:09:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?



LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above...
As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..


I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.

Grow up, little one.

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:12:00 - [22]
 

Posts here are being polite, but you are like a person bringing a scooter to the indy 500 or lemans.
PLease go play for a while and read the millions of post on eve and things to do.

Caliwyrm O'Libr
Token Ring Assembly
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:15:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion

I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.

Grow up, little one.


Wow.. I was going to link to a movie that shows and explains how to deploy an outpost but after that little gem I'll just let you and your nerd rage look it up for yourself.

Missy Saints
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:16:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?



LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above...
As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..


I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.

Grow up, little one.



HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA I am probably older then your father or evev your grandpappy.

Braaage
Ministry of Craft
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:17:00 - [25]
 


Tunak
Posted - 2007.10.31 17:23:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
Originally by: Missy Saints
Originally by: Kingpin Kempion
I can see now why Eve has such a low players base. If such a major investment can be stolen in an instant and this is believed to be perfectly acceptable, then there are issues in development.

So far, my understanding of Eve is mine, mine, mine, run a mission, train skills, don't risk a .4 because players who literally have no lives will be there at the gate waiting to attack you... and of course, don't invest in an outpost because it can be stolen.

Please tell me there is more to ths game?



LOL I love people who know nothing about something that make statements like yours above...
As a wise man said "you must learn to crawl before you can walk. Please go play the game for a while before you come asking about some of the most complicated and intensive parts of the game..


I see. According to your limited reality, I should not ask questions about things of interest to me. I asked straight-forward and honest questions. It was you adn your trollkin who decided you could talk garbage from the saftey of your parent's basement.

Grow up, little one.


No you didn't ask straight-forward and honest questions. You asked for a complete explanation of how to build an outpost with all terminology dumbed down to newb level.

You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)

What you've done is walk your newb ass in here claim the existing FAQ is crap and demand that someone post a new one in this thread.

Now when people criticize you for doing that you start attacking the people rather than addressing what they're saying.

That is in no way reasonable. You're the one that needs to grow up. Had you come in here and said hey I read the doc and I don't know what this that and the other thing means could you explain it you would have gotten much further.

It's safe to say that if you don't understand the terminology in the Outpost document then you aren't ready to build one. FYI the smallest group to put up an outpost I believe is 40 people and they made the front page for doing it.

Now if you want to put the daddy pants on and post some questions rather than demands for a new faq I'll be more than happy to answer them. Otherwise I'm done with you.


Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 21:46:00 - [27]
 

Wow. Just wow. I ask for information and get attacked straight away.

I'll keep this is mind in the future and not bother trying to make the Eve community stronger by trying to learn how things work. Damn!

Anger management much?

Kingpin Kempion
Posted - 2007.10.31 21:47:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Braaage
If you don't understand the sticky perhaps this will help, watch the video.


Thank you, Braaage. There are some decent people left in this world.

Pwett
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
Posted - 2007.10.31 21:56:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Tunak
You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)


^ = Greek

Kaaii
Caldari
Kaaii-Net Research Labs
KAAII-NET
Posted - 2007.10.31 22:30:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Pwett
Originally by: Tunak
You asked how exactly do I steal a Relic? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get an artifact from a champion spawn? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)
You asked how do I get the Olthoi Queen's head? (Including all precursor steps and terminology.)


^ = Greek



It wasn't missed.... Wink



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