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Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:02:00 - [1]
 

When i logged in ths morning i discovered a substantial amount of isk withdrawn from my wallet by a GM leaving me in the negative, the reason given was reversing a player donation from some random person i have never heard of.
I have never bought or sold isk, and would like to be contacted by a senior GM to resolve this situation.

A petition has been filed.

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:10:00 - [2]
 

The forum is the wrong place for this.

Good luck with the petition if you are innocent.

Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
House of El
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:12:00 - [3]
 

Lesson to be learned, don't just go "WOOHOO" if someone sends you a big package of isk. Report it right away.Smile

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:14:00 - [4]
 

Question is...how do we know you're telling the truth? *peers intently at OP*

Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:17:00 - [5]
 

I was never online when the supposed transaction took place moreover the only reason i came on here was s that they might notice it.

Unfortunatly, i have no-way of prooving to CCP my innocence, short of giving them my credit card details.

nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes

Sharupak
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:21:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Elles D


nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes



k, maybe I am off base here, but that comment would definately make me wipe my ass with your petition and "accidentally forget" to print a new one for a few weeks.....




Just throwing that out there...

Flinx Evenstar
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:27:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Elles D
When i logged in ths morning i discovered a substantial amount of isk withdrawn from my wallet by a GM leaving me in the negative, the reason given was reversing a player donation from some random person i have never heard of.
I have never bought or sold isk, and would like to be contacted by a senior GM to resolve this situation.

A petition has been filed.


If your wallet went into negative from the reversal of that transaction, then obviously it was a significant sum

Such a large donation would have been hard not to notice, you know like your wallet doubling in size. Odd how you didn't mention it then Wink


Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:30:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Elles D
nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes

Yeah, that'll help your case.

And how does the GM know you didn't buy ISK? Just because you weren't online doesn't mean anything.

Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:30:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Elles D
I was never online when the supposed transaction took place moreover the only reason i came on here was s that they might notice it.

Unfortunatly, i have no-way of prooving to CCP my innocence, short of giving them my credit card details.

nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes


The GM is a dumbass?

You get a large sum of isk, then spend it and then act all surprised when the GM removes said large sum?

Who is the stupid one?

I think it is you....

Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:32:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Elles D
I was never online when the supposed transaction took place moreover the only reason i came on here was s that they might notice it.

Unfortunatly, i have no-way of prooving to CCP my innocence, short of giving them my credit card details.

nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes


The GM is a dumbass?

You get a large sum of isk, then spend it and then act all surprised when the GM removes said large sum?

Who is the stupid one?

I think it is you....



Read my original post, I NEVER KNEW I HAD THE ISK. I woke up and my wallet was negative, i never recieved the isk from the seller like i was meant to warrent the wallet rapage.

Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:34:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Haks''he Lirky on 25/10/2007 14:36:40
Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Elles D
I was never online when the supposed transaction took place moreover the only reason i came on here was s that they might notice it.

Unfortunatly, i have no-way of prooving to CCP my innocence, short of giving them my credit card details.

nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes


The GM is a dumbass?

You get a large sum of isk, then spend it and then act all surprised when the GM removes said large sum?

Who is the stupid one?

I think it is you....



Read my original post, I NEVER KNEW I HAD THE ISK. I woke up and my wallet was negative, i never recieved the isk from the seller like i was meant to warrent the wallet rapage.


How much in the negative?
Did you receive the money?

If you received the money and are now in negative ISK, then this means you spend this money that appeared.

Edit: I guess I shouldnt be mean.

But if the transaction is there then you got the money and the GM simply reversed it, you not knowing about it does not make the GM stupid.

Dreacon nass
Racketeers
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:35:00 - [12]
 

So who did you buy isk from again?

Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:38:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Edited by: Haks''he Lirky on 25/10/2007 14:36:40
Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Haks'he Lirky
Originally by: Elles D
I was never online when the supposed transaction took place moreover the only reason i came on here was s that they might notice it.

Unfortunatly, i have no-way of prooving to CCP my innocence, short of giving them my credit card details.

nother dumbass GM methinks Rolling Eyes


The GM is a dumbass?

You get a large sum of isk, then spend it and then act all surprised when the GM removes said large sum?

Who is the stupid one?

I think it is you....



Read my original post, I NEVER KNEW I HAD THE ISK. I woke up and my wallet was negative, i never recieved the isk from the seller like i was meant to warrent the wallet rapage.


How much in the negative?
Did you receive the money?

If you received the money and are now in negative ISK, then this means you spend this money that appeared.

Edit: I guess I shouldnt be mean.

But if the transaction is there then you got the money and the GM simply reversed it, you not knowing about it does not make the GM stupid.



No and that is what is so weird. I have checked my wallet and i never recieved the said ISK.

Ventro69
Caldari
Manson Family
Corcoran State
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:40:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Ventro69 on 25/10/2007 14:42:38
1. You might have paid for isk with your credit card and that is not allowed.

2. You lost a ship, petitioned it, they replaced it but took back the insurance pay-out.

3. Do'h, an isk seller gave you isk by accident. No chance of ever proving that. Your biggest problem is, you can't sell stuff to get your balance back, coz there's a market transaction fee and you can't pay it if you're in a negative balance. Trusted corpie or alt time for you.

P.S. If CCP only took the ammount that was transfered to you by said do-gooder, then why are you in a negative balance now? Something is rotten in Denmark. Think you bought ISK and now you're sore that you got caught.

Haks'he Lirky
Durgarnir
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:41:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Elles D

No and that is what is so weird. I have checked my wallet and i never recieved the said ISK.


Then WTF are you doing on the forums?

Take it to petitions and stop calling the GM's names on the Forums, it's bad karma....

I still think you are a whiny little isk buyer that is squirming after he got caught...

But if you are right then the GM's will see that you did not receive the money and all will be made right.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:41:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Elles D
No and that is what is so weird. I have checked my wallet and i never recieved the said ISK.

The only way you can prove it to us is if you post your unmodified wallet journal CVS file here, unfortunately.

Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:43:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Ventro69
1. You might have paid for isk with your credit card and that is not allowed.

2. You lost a ship, petitioned it, they replaced it but took back the insurance pay-out.

3. Do'h, an isk seller gave you isk by accident. No chance of ever proving that. Your biggest problem is, you can't sell stuff to get your balance back, coz there's a market transaction fee and you can't pay it if you're in a negative balance. Trusted corpie or alt time for you.


1:No
2:No
3:Aye your right, and that is what makes it sting so.

Andrue
Amarr
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:48:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Ventro69
1. You might have paid for isk with your credit card and that is not allowed.

2. You lost a ship, petitioned it, they replaced it but took back the insurance pay-out.

3. Do'h, an isk seller gave you isk by accident. No chance of ever proving that. Your biggest problem is, you can't sell stuff to get your balance back, coz there's a market transaction fee and you can't pay it if you're in a negative balance. Trusted corpie or alt time for you.


1:No
2:No
3:Aye your right, and that is what makes it sting so.
If (3) is indeed the case then the only way your wallet could go -ve is if you spent the ISK you were sent. In that case you deserve at least part of the blame for not reporting the cash injection when you first noticed it.

Given that you claim never to have seen the money arrive there are really only two explanations:

1)You bought ISK. That is naughty and you have now been punished appropriately.
2)A GM made a mistake. That seems a little unlikely but if so they will happily reimburse you but try to stay civil and polite.

Elles D
Caldari
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:49:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Elles D
No and that is what is so weird. I have checked my wallet and i never recieved the said ISK.

The only way you can prove it to us is if you post your unmodified wallet journal CVS file here, unfortunately.


Please tell me how to do that.

Dretzle Omega
Caldari
Global Economy Experts
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:49:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Ventro69
1. You might have paid for isk with your credit card and that is not allowed.

2. You lost a ship, petitioned it, they replaced it but took back the insurance pay-out.

3. Do'h, an isk seller gave you isk by accident. No chance of ever proving that. Your biggest problem is, you can't sell stuff to get your balance back, coz there's a market transaction fee and you can't pay it if you're in a negative balance. Trusted corpie or alt time for you.


1:No
2:No
3:Aye your right, and that is what makes it sting so.


Whether you bought the ISK or not, if an ISK seller gave you money, and a GM reversed it, and you never spent the money, you should still be in the positive. If an ISK seller didn't give you the money, but a GM accidently reversed a transaction on your account, that should be easily verifiable in their logs and they can give your money back, in which case, I hope it happens for you soon.

In either case, your posting here on the forums is only an attempt to publicly embarress or humiliate GMs, and it will not help your cause in the least.

Tarminic
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:53:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Elles D
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Elles D
No and that is what is so weird. I have checked my wallet and i never recieved the said ISK.

The only way you can prove it to us is if you post your unmodified wallet journal CVS file here, unfortunately.


Please tell me how to do that.

1. Go to "my character"
2. Click on "wallet journal"
3. Post downloaded file on a public site of some kind (without modifying it of course)
4. Post link here

Be aware though, that this will reveal how you've spent your money.

Kaemonn


ISD YARR
Posted - 2007.10.25 14:55:00 - [22]
 

Then just wait for the petition to be handled. No reason to post on the forums.


 

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