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LuzArius
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:25:00 - [1]
 

CCP I was hoping you guys could announce if the dominix, ishtar & eos will still be able to launch 5 x tech 2 ogres. I need to know now, becuase if they can't I need to rethink my whole gameplan and switch to minmitar if drones are gonna be nerfed on these ships.

Thanks.


Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:28:00 - [2]
 

I believe the current opinion is

YES - MAYBEE - NO

SKUNK

Judinous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:32:00 - [3]
 

the dominix almost certainly will be able to, unless the ability to control 5 heavies is removed from all ships short of capitals entirely, which i doubt is happening. the other two are not as certain, though id still be surprised if they werent able to.

regardless, i doubt they will lose dps. their bonuses will probably be adjusted and/or they will be allowed to launch more drones if 5 heavies are not allowed.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:35:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Judinous
regardless, i doubt they will lose dps.

On the contrary, the entire point of the drone bandwidth change is to rebalance the dps from drone ships.

Judinous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:40:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Judinous
regardless, i doubt they will lose dps.

On the contrary, the entire point of the drone bandwidth change is to rebalance the dps from drone ships.


rebalance doesnt necessarily mean reduce. of course, its all speculation either way. the myrm will probably get hit with the nerfbat, though.

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:43:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Judinous
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Judinous
regardless, i doubt they will lose dps.

On the contrary, the entire point of the drone bandwidth change is to rebalance the dps from drone ships.


rebalance doesnt necessarily mean reduce. of course, its all speculation either way. the myrm will probably get hit with the nerfbat, though.


I thought the point was less bandwidth but bigger drone space AKA variety or drones for you to use.

SKUNK


Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:44:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Akita T on 20/10/2007 05:44:19

The only ship I see as being possibly hit by a nerfbat DPS-wise with the drone bandwidth change would be the Myrmidon.
Eos and Ishtar should be pretty safe, and Dominix is definetely in absolutely no danger whatsoever.

If anything, maybe some other ships will get a slight buff for normal drone damage, while removing the "5x T2 Ogres from any ship with 25+ m^3 dronebay" scenario from the face of the galaxy.

Kyra Felann
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:50:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Judinous
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Judinous
regardless, i doubt they will lose dps.

On the contrary, the entire point of the drone bandwidth change is to rebalance the dps from drone ships.


rebalance doesnt necessarily mean reduce. of course, its all speculation either way. the myrm will probably get hit with the nerfbat, though.


In fact, they said they were going to un-nerf specialized drone ships.

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:52:00 - [9]
 

Awww my favorite speculation.

I doubt dominix would lose dps, since I suppose battleship is supposed to do "battleship like" damage. However I suspect smaller droneships like myrmidon, ishtar, eos and vexor might be on line.

Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Posted - 2007.10.20 05:55:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kyra Felann
In fact, they said they were going to un-nerf specialized drone ships.

That doesn't neccecarily mean that the damage will remain the same. Drone bandwidth is designed to allow specialised ships to hold more drones than they can launch while putting a tight constraint on dps. This means more replacement drones and more types of drone but it does not automatically follow that damage will be left as is. The Myrmidon is a prime example of a ship with perhaps a little too much firepower for its size class. It's essentially a little Dominix.

Judinous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 06:28:00 - [11]
 

its entirely possible for some of the drone boats to be changed to, say, 20-30% damage per level but constrained to mediums and lights. it would make a nice buff without changing the paper dps.

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.10.20 06:47:00 - [12]
 

IU'm sure the typhoon will get boosted by this change :)

it allready has a 325 drone bay :P

Rude Bwoy
Posted - 2007.10.20 06:50:00 - [13]
 

After patch can the following ships field 5 x heavy drones:

Dominix -YES
Ishtar - YES
Eos - NO Exclamation

Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
Posted - 2007.10.20 06:51:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Judinous
its entirely possible for some of the drone boats to be changed to, say, 20-30% damage per level but constrained to mediums and lights. it would make a nice buff without changing the paper dps.


?

People want the myrmidon nerfed.

You suggestion would make it actually almost a little bit stronger with 5 mediums boosted 30% damage with mediums faster and hitting earlier

SKUNK

Ess Erbe
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.20 06:55:00 - [15]
 

I'm actually a lot more interested in how non-drone ships will be affected, and how everyone's favourite miniature drone carrier, the Ishkur, will be affected. Will the Ishkur have an increased base drone bay and 40 bandwith for the "standard" 3 mediums/2 lights but now also with backups? Will the Hurricane, Drake, Harbinger and other Battlecruisers and cruisers be able to field a second wave of their drone choices?

I really hope the Ishkur won't get a bandwith of 25 :/.

Will some ships be rebalanced in such a way that they can actually deploy more drones than before?

ArmyOfMe
Hysera.
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:04:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Rude Bwoy
After patch can the following ships field 5 x heavy drones:

Dominix -YES
Ishtar - YES
Eos - NO Exclamation

and you know this how?

Judinous
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:18:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Judinous
its entirely possible for some of the drone boats to be changed to, say, 20-30% damage per level but constrained to mediums and lights. it would make a nice buff without changing the paper dps.


?

People want the myrmidon nerfed.

You suggestion would make it actually almost a little bit stronger with 5 mediums boosted 30% damage with mediums faster and hitting earlier

SKUNK


*some* of the drone boats. i didnt say i wanted that for the myrm, that thing deserves a nerf. i was referring more to the ishtar and eos. i would classify boosting mediums to heavy dps values as a good guess for the definition of "un-nerfing".

oh man, vexor with 25% lights would be sexy as all hell.

Fswd
Gallente
Psychotic Sea Monkeys
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:19:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Judinous
its entirely possible for some of the drone boats to be changed to, say, 20-30% damage per level but constrained to mediums and lights. it would make a nice buff without changing the paper dps.


?

People want the myrmidon nerfed.

You suggestion would make it actually almost a little bit stronger with 5 mediums boosted 30% damage with mediums faster and hitting earlier

SKUNK


Indeed, 10 to 15 would be a bit fairer then. And even tho I own a Myrm, i think its overpowered. For example (bad one), i can run lv3 missions with just launching drones after getting full aggro and going afk Shocked

cal nereus
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:44:00 - [19]
 

Speculation and popular opinion intermingled with the scraps CCP gives us indicate that the Dominix will still be able to launch 5 x tech 2 ogres after the introduction of Drone Bandwidth. The Ishtar and Eos are question marks, but at the very least the Dominix will only benefit or at least will not be hurt.

Jacque DeCoure
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:01:00 - [20]
 

How about Sentry Drones? I use them and I'd really like to continue using them - they are no where near as popular as Heavies.. so I see no reason why they should have the same Bandwidth requirement as Heavies... just saying..

cheesyhead
Minmatar
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:29:00 - [21]
 

well if the eos would lose its 5 t2 ogres than what damage does it have left... as far as i know the eos doesnt get a drone damage bonus, and the eos max damage is very much inline with other command ships.

Cypress Cavalero
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.23 21:27:00 - [22]
 

Edited by: Cypress Cavalero on 23/10/2007 21:27:29
compare the eos/astartes to a nighthawk:(, it should loose a drone fly caldari in pvp then whine about the nerfbat. bout time the mrym suffered too

MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
Posted - 2007.10.23 21:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: cheesyhead
well if the eos would lose its 5 t2 ogres than what damage does it have left... as far as i know the eos doesnt get a drone damage bonus, and the eos max damage is very much inline with other command ships.


and now it only gets 5 turrets Very Happy

Arenis Xemdal
Amarr
Insidious Existence
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.23 21:53:00 - [24]
 

Out of curiosity, why address the topic to CCP when you know that a bunch of players will answer your question? Unless you really think CCP would be inclined to give you an answer to something that will become clear soon enough (if its not already) when the question or answer neither affect any gameplay?

Tula Elrich
Posted - 2007.10.23 21:57:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Arenis Xemdal
Out of curiosity, why address the topic to CCP when you know that a bunch of players will answer your question? Unless you really think CCP would be inclined to give you an answer to something that will become clear soon enough (if its not already) when the question or answer neither affect any gameplay?


hey stop using logic!

what other reason would there to post on the forums :P

electrostatus
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2007.10.23 23:05:00 - [26]
 

From Singularity.

Can you point out what’s wrong in this picture? Besides the rat I found attacking an anchored can that is.

Phoenix Lord
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.23 23:18:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: ArmyOfMe
Originally by: Rude Bwoy
After patch can the following ships field 5 x heavy drones:

Dominix -YES
Ishtar - YES
Eos - NO Exclamation

and you know this how?


Logic + Guessing. I agree with him tbh. Dominix is a BS sized drone boat.. it should be able to carry T2 ogres. Ishtar is a Tech 2 cruiser sized drone boat, it should be able to do heavies as well. The Eos however, isnt a drone boat at all. Plus, i think allowing them to keep their drones would go against CCP's thing about no solo pwn mobiles.

ArmyOfMe
Hysera.
Posted - 2007.10.23 23:25:00 - [28]
 

if the eos was so overpowerd i dont get why im flying the sleipnir and claymore most of the time these days

Arana Tellen
Gallente
Clan Death Corps
Posted - 2007.10.23 23:30:00 - [29]
 

The two biggest targets are the myrmidon and Eos (as said on eveTV during the tournament). So I expect them both to be reduced to less heavies. The others I really hope not.

Phoenix Lord
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.23 23:36:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Phoenix Lord on 23/10/2007 23:36:50
Originally by: ArmyOfMe
if the eos was so overpowerd i dont get why im flying the sleipnir and claymore most of the time these days


Maybe you like the sleipnir more for other reasons? maybe you already had more minnie skills? maybe you didnt want to train for hybrids and drones?

Theres a ton of reasons... Not everyone flies the ship that is overpowered at the time.. Just because you dont fly a ship, doesnt mean it sucks..

I rat most of the time with my Megathron, doesnt mean the raven is worse for ratting. In fact, the raven is better, but i just prefer my gallente ships.

Do you get my point? or should i keep going.

EDIT: Also note i never said the Eos was actually overpowered. I just said CCP doesnt like ships that can solo (aka do everything, tank and DPS, etc etc)


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