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blkmajik
Minmatar
Overview Glitch
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:04:00 - [31]
 

Why dont you offer him double or nothing for 12 more days?

James Grand
Minmatar
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:21:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Xipious Oash
Originally by: Alias11


I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100


I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it.


I guess I don't "get" goon humor. Embarassed

Seriously though, I take that as a compliment.

Paulson
Caldari
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:23:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Pilk
Originally by: Slayton Ford
I'd say this bet is null and void. The intention of the bet (I assume) was who would win the fight over FAT. The fact that there was no way for Tyrrax to win the bet should mean the bet is voided.

Ah, finally, a reasonable version of the "LOL HE SHOULDN'T PAY STFU BOB HAXOR" post. Now I can respond. Twisted Evil

Basically, Tyrrax (and IAC, -A-, GOON, etc.) had the chance to defend (and then, after we took sov, to take back) FAT- for the last month. This is similar to not paying your alliance bill until the last possible minute, and then getting screwed over by an extended DT. I'm reminded of a rule in (Americans: Soccer, Everyone else: Football) which says that the ref is a part of the field. If the ball hits the ref and enters the goal, it's a goal, same as if it hit a bump in the field before entering the goal. We're all playing on the same server and had equal chance to (re-)take the station. IAC did not do so. Therefore, I win.

--P


The analogy does not work as the game is sill going on when the ball hits the ref.

In the case of the bet with Tyrrax a halt had been made on the game which made it impossible to forfill the rules of the bet. It automatically defaulted as there was no game.

Also in most cases of extended downtime players are either warned in advance or given a good eta on the resumption of normal services. that did not happen in this case.

Enkryption
Amarr
Intergalactic Pool Boys
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:34:00 - [34]
 

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Deaell Portt
Gallente
V O O D O O
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:38:00 - [35]
 

Hmm, im think is not honest change bet cirmustances. When Plik make bet he dont know about extended DT also Tyrrax dont know that . Damn, u remeber month ago when server have rollback every day. I shoot to that same poses for one week. Shi* happends. Life etc. etc. But i be in Fat before server emergency shut down and i dont see hostile trying kill BoB pos. Most poses going from reinforce before dt, and one soon after dt. Server work to 2 pm. So, for me is simple: Word is word and Bet is Bet. Sorry for my english, is not my native language. Congratz Pilk for winning bet.

blkmajik
Minmatar
Overview Glitch
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:41:00 - [36]
 

You say that he pays you if someone else holds fat and you pay him if he holds. Well, it could be argued that while BoB has sov superiority, they do NOT hold fat. Controlling docking rights at the station != holding the system. Just ask RISE :) So, in that respect, isn't it a wash, at best?

Again, if your confident, offer a double or nothing for another week or two. ughugh

Vaarmoth Malinigvious
Minmatar
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:43:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: blkmajik
You say that he pays you if someone else holds fat and you pay him if he holds. Well, it could be argued that while BoB has sov superiority, they do NOT hold fat. Controlling docking rights at the station != holding the system. Just ask RISE :) So, in that respect, isn't it a wash, at best?

Again, if your confident, offer a double or nothing for another week or two. ughugh


lol

Destruct
Gallente
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:44:00 - [38]
 

eve-mail ftw

Enkryption
Amarr
Intergalactic Pool Boys
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:44:00 - [39]
 

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fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:46:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: fire 59 on 20/10/2007 07:47:26
Edit - Meh, too hung over for all that now, mebbe later

Martin VanBuren
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 07:59:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 20/10/2007 07:58:45
Originally by: James Grand
Originally by: Xipious Oash
Originally by: Alias11


I'm trying to quantify how far you missed the point but my calculator screws up when it goes past 10^100


I can't figure out which is funnier. The burn, or how he is totally unable to see it.


I guess I don't "get" goon humor. Embarassed

Seriously though, I take that as a compliment.


The joke is axe.


They are the joke.

Ponderous Thunderstroke
Minmatar
Republic War Machine Industries
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:00:00 - [42]
 

A long-running joke, no less.



"We are the PVP wing of ASCN..."

Dr Ming
Caldari
Mindworks
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:08:00 - [43]
 

Ok, I'm going to just toss in my two cents on my 'man' rules findings on this matter.


The server being shut down because of a hacker is clearly an internet spaceship version of an act of god.

Trying to claim a bet under these circumstances just reeks of desperation.

Offer to up the bet to 1 bil, extend the time frame, and settle the bet. Stop crying about how you won the bet when you clearly didn't.

The purpose of a bet is to settle an issue in a convincing manner, not to lawyer your way into winning it.

Jurgurtha
Gallente
O RLY corp
YTMND.
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:10:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Dr Ming
Ok, I'm going to just toss in my two cents on my 'man' rules findings on this matter.


The server being shut down because of a hacker is clearly an internet spaceship version of an act of god.

Trying to claim a bet under these circumstances just reeks of desperation.

Offer to up the bet to 1 bil, extend the time frame, and settle the bet. Stop crying about how you won the bet when you clearly didn't.

The purpose of a bet is to settle an issue in a convincing manner, not to lawyer your way into winning it.


This

arthell
Gallente
legion of qui
Southern Connection
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:23:00 - [45]
 

From a random nobody that got the jist of the bet and ignored the rest of the thread:

For however long the servers were inaccessible during the bet, the same amount of time should have been added onto the remaining time for the bet when the servers came back up.

Trying to claim you successfully defended the system during a downtime Rolling Eyes

Trying to claim the bet is completely null and void because of the downtime Rolling Eyes

Nahia Senne
Gallente
Initium Malum
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:31:00 - [46]
 

Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.

Necronomicon
Caldari
The Weasels of Doom
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:43:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Nahia Senne
Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.



Funny, I have not seen a single post from Tyrrax attempting to back out of any bet, all I have seen in the few small hours since the OP is ppl on both sides and alts arguing about it. I would wait for a response from the man himself before laying down accusations against his ehonour ;)

Enkryption
Amarr
Intergalactic Pool Boys
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:44:00 - [48]
 

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Centauris
Gallente
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:48:00 - [49]
 

With the servers getting fuxored, id say the bet is null and void also, get over it pilk, no one won anything.

Stoned Celt
Caldari
Bloodnok Technologies
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:53:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Enkryption
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Once Tyrrax pays off his gambling debts, a new bet cant be made. Until debts are paid in full, i see no reason why you should gamble with people who refuse to pay.


I have no doubt TT would pay the bet, but Pilk should give him the chance to win it back with a double or nothing, given the circumstances.

Why should he?
Anyway, would sov have flipped over today even if the Coalition had destroyed all the towers? If not the whole extended DT argument is moot.

Enkryption
Amarr
Intergalactic Pool Boys
Posted - 2007.10.20 08:58:00 - [51]
 

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Blacky NeugaR
Minmatar
NeugaR Tribe
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:15:00 - [52]
 

This is just a question about honour nothing more. and this is only something betwhen tyrrax and pilk and how they resolve it is up to them we can kick back and watch them go at it ;)Laughing

Pesadel0
Minmatar
the muppets
RED.OverLord
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:17:00 - [53]
 

Pilk won.

Plutonian
Gallente
Intransigent
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:51:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Plutonian on 20/10/2007 09:53:26
Hmmm... consider this:

I make a bet that you (the reader) cannot move a stone block from one end of the room to the other. I believe you simply do not have the strength. You, however, think you are strong enough, and accept.

You manage to move the stone block a great distance across the room... but before the contest is over, the stone block suddenly (magically) disappears.

I jump up and claim "You lost! You didn't get the stone block across the room!"



Question: What do my actions say about my faith in my chances, had the contest continued uninterrupted?

Bonus Question: Have I acted with honor? What would an honorable fighter, concerned only with a true test of strength, do?




(And no... not an alt. Laughing Just found this moral challenge interesting.)

Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
Outbreak.
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:53:00 - [55]
 

what?

fire 59
Gallente
Destructive Influence
KenZoku
Posted - 2007.10.20 09:53:00 - [56]
 

Trying to include smallprint after the bet has been won is mute tbh. Live and learn

torN Deception
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.20 10:07:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: Vaarmoth Malinigvious
He lost the bet, there were no what-ifs involved. You know damn well if the shoe was on the other foot you'd be demanding he'd pay. Drop the partisan **** and acknowledge he won.


It's bad enough BoB feels it can start posting again every time it wins a single fleet battle. Now you've got to stop using your CAOD alts and smack on your mains every time unscheduled downtime saves your ass?

Nahia Senne
Gallente
Initium Malum
Posted - 2007.10.20 10:11:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: torN Deception
It's bad enough BoB feels it can start posting again every time it wins a single fleet battle. Now you've got to stop using your CAOD alts and smack on your mains every time unscheduled downtime saves your ass?


We already agreed that there was no fleet battle in FAT because BoB haxed the servers. At least thats what many of your peers have been saying here.

Sokratesz
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.20 10:31:00 - [59]
 

needs more tinfoil

Cefte
Minmatar
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.20 10:35:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: fire 59
Trying to include smallprint after the bet has been won is mute tbh. Live and learn


Do you mean 'moot'?


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