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Von Kleist
Caldari
Perkone
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:03:00 - [391]
 

Originally by: Kryztal
Originally by: Tomcatt
Tholarim you want to say something about the chain of events? Lets, please.

We came down to help you. We came down to fight along side of you despite our past history. We were there to support you.

NO ONE in STK mined a single roid. Maybe a couple of guys shot a rat or two in an NPC station system BEFORE you talked to me, but not after.

My guys were our roaming with Bob and came back to dock for the night and were locked out. They were there when FAT fell, but couldn't dock. This is how you treat your allies? Toss on top of that the 42b for M.Pire each month? That offer came before the lockouts, so what? You were pressuring us into taking it?

M.PIRE doesn't owe you a damn thing.


WTS math skills. It was a standard rent agreement (6billion exclusive const for all of m.pire) that was on the table after getting told to **** off and mind our own buisness when STK was ratting in our home constellation. "oh im not ratting im just testing my sniper setup" lol If your leadership had come to us and asked first we wouldnt have had any problem with M.Pire getting themselves sorted but our space is our space and if you were so called "good allies" you would have respected that and asked insted of just taking.

We are arrogant and our allies and friends know that, we also show respect to those that show us respect. We gave m.pire our respect and got nothing but smack back. With attitude like that your better suited on the other side anyway.

Nice to see Gungan's back in the "mr ASCN's head forum poster guy" position.


Id love to add to this to make you sound like more of a mouthbreathing ******, but I really dont think thats possible. GG Bob, you're just as sh***y as I always thought you were.

Glad to have you guys aboard, M.Pire. o7

Mag's
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:04:00 - [392]
 

Wow, much respect to M.Pire.

Map Screen
Minmatar
Flat Earth Society
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:07:00 - [393]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
I wonder if the STK leadership told everyone what really went down before the 6 billion fee was requested.

Maybe they shoulldn't have started mining and npcing in delve without asking the alliance owning said space.

Maybe Tomcatt was lying to me when i talked to him about this just this sunday/monday. And then actually proceeded to have a conversation with Goons about possibly joining the coalition the same day. Yes that last one really helped your situation.

If there's 1 thing i regret, is actually not setting you to negative becus we felt the actions of STK shouldn't affect the whole of Mpire alliance.

I be seeing you velios. 2nd time now. tsk tsk Laughing


This is the reason why bob invaded catch, to collect on back taxes from TT when he rented delve to those farmers.

Jamie 315
Gallente
Yet Another CAOD Inspired 1 Woman Alt Corp
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:07:00 - [394]
 

Originally by: Jomin Herdsy
BoB didn't want those allies anyway. c/d?


Confirm.

TBH this is one of the final nails in bobs coffin. Sure m. pire was not directly involved down south, but they kept the north and drone scum busy. Now the north and drone scum are board so their raiding gangs may start visiting mcfixbobbits.

I mean come on ppl. M. Pire is a valuable asset to either side. Dread fleet (rumor has it theirs about 25 dreads), bs fleet, their t2 bpos, their 4 mums, the fact they can stand on their own two feet. Not to mention they may have some good FCs.

Oofig VanDoogan
Gallente
Happy Hopping Bunny Squad
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:08:00 - [395]
 

Everything has come full circle :D

reSkippy
Gallente
The Silent Rage
M. PIRE
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:09:00 - [396]
 

signed

agent apple
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:09:00 - [397]
 

Almost as good as the time some chinese guy told molle in his best engrish he had personally spoken with BOB leadership and definitely had the right to rat in delve.

Eve what it lacks in frames per second it more than makes up for with drama per thread.

Vasili Z
Minmatar
Cosmic Odyssey
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:13:00 - [398]
 

Edited by: Vasili Z on 11/10/2007 02:35:35
On second thought... cowards.

Zuberi
Minmatar
M. Corp
-Mostly Harmless-
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:14:00 - [399]
 

Tough call to make....but in the end M. Pire will do what it has to do to stick together and have fun.

/signed

I miss MC already.

Alias11
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:15:00 - [400]
 

M. Pire I'll have you know that the privilege of dying alongside us only costs 5,999,999,999.99 isk per month! It's a Steal!

Welcome aboard, I guess?

Fabrice Enchante
Gallente
Needles for Balloons
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:15:00 - [401]
 

Greed is good.... in the 80's!

Jade Imp
Caldari
M. Corp
M. PIRE
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:21:00 - [402]
 

Signed

Farham
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:26:00 - [403]
 

Quote:
Now the north and drone scum are board so their raiding gangs may start visiting mcfixbobbits.


I would just like to say that we of the "drone scum" prefer the term "drone maggots". Please update your CAOD manual and I will get the memo out later.


BuIIseye
Amarr
Rossum Technology
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:28:00 - [404]
 

Good Choice, remember Velios, always blame someone else.

Jennai
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:29:00 - [405]
 

Originally by: Please Hold
M.Pire seem to have alot of coats to turn.

Sure .. sure.. the enemy of my enemy is my friends and all... but do M.Pire know whos who anymore?


right now? absolutely.

everyone is neutral except a few that haven't had their standings reset yet.

Gungankllr
Caldari
Hard Rock Mining Co.
Territorial Claim Unit
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:30:00 - [406]
 

Originally by: Coranor
I really don't know what you expected gungan.


Nothing really, just not for long term allies to treat us like we were some joe schmoo on a 10 day trial trying to figure out how to get out of Kisogo.

Quote:

Seriously you give up in the north all of a sudden(without even losing a station btw) and by the next day nearly you show up and start mining in delve of all places.


Considering you weren't there in the middle of what we were dealing with, I don't think you've got any room to speak down to us on leaving allies high and dry.

Quote:
You leave your allies in the north hanging and expect us to reward you for it.


So. We come down south to help you guys shoot your enemies, after locking horns with the entirety of the north on your behalf for months. We didn't expect any rewards, just the ability to make isk to replace losses, which is a completely normal thing unless you have somebody that can spawn isk for you or something.

Quote:
Nah, that costs 6 bill a month no matter how you look at it(its just 6 bill btw, not per corp at all)


Maybe that's normal but that isn't what was brought to us.

Quote:
Now I was quite happy for you guys to move down and shoot stuff up with us. I was quite happy for you guys to take a little chunk of space for yourselves(your own space, no rent no oversight no interference from us) once you'd put the work in as most of us were. But your guys seem to think that it should all be handed to you on a plate.


We have been putting in work as you so put it for a hellofa long time now in the interests of friendship with you guys. The statement you just made completely contradicts what your leadership presented us. Would have, could have, should have.

Now all of a sudden you want to come on the forums and claim that if we would have stuck it out with you we would have earned our own space, or whatever.

Quote:

The fact that your directors found out that they wouldn't be handed whatever they wanted meant that they decided to run and have a chat with sesfan(Yeah we got the logs).


Of course we did. We did the intelligent thing for our alliance, which was to look at all possibilities and make an informed decision for the good of our members.

Quote:
Now i got no hard feelings about that. You do whats best for your alliances and your corps but you can't claim the omg loyalty card here.


POT > KETTLE > BLACK

Where was your loyalty to us? Many of us looked beyond old anger and put our alliance ahead of personal remembrances... and then you guys showed everyone just what you thought of us.

Quote:
Bottom line is that you were out for yourselves here. There was never any loyalty to either us or even MC, the guys who set you up in the north. You bailed on fatal and cow, knowing that they couldn't hold the area on their own, without even having to try and defend one of your stations and you ran down south expecting to be welcomed with open arms by one side or the other.


This is quite possibly the most ludicrous thing I've ever seen considering everything I have experienced since joining M.Pire.

Quote:
You were an honest guy when you were in bnc mate. Hell even in ascn you were the man in their leadership that was spending his time helping his alliance instead of trying to demonise us. Now is not the time to buck the trend of a lifetime.


Which is what I am doing now.

I will continue to call it as I see it.


Grath Telkin
Amarr
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:31:00 - [407]
 

/singed

sorry im late, couldnt find my pen

Dravun
Amarr
Dark-Rising
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:32:00 - [408]
 

Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the post about having BoB loyalty and now parting ways is made by a former ASCN corp?Twisted EvilTwisted EvilTwisted Evil

Xenea
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:34:00 - [409]
 

And so the Will of our beloved Almighty be known to all who bear witness to this glorius day -- another laser has been added to His Divine battery of righteous and indominable fury. May your targetting be true, heretic warriors of M. Pire, and you strike at the very heart of the Grand Deciever himself. Decieved no more as the Light of Truth shines on! Let the sweetened words of the Liar now fall upon deafened ears forever more. So mote it be in the name of Lord God, Amarr Victor.

Nalta Nightbringer
Amarr
Angels of the Abyss
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:39:00 - [410]
 

Goodluck M. Pire! As of this post, you'll always be blue to me Cool

Mr Broker
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:40:00 - [411]
 

Pro-tip, don't use capitals carelessly or without ally support.

Good luck M. PIRE

Modok Strongsauce
Caldari
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:40:00 - [412]
 


Respect to M.Pire.

BTW FIX: Keep talking ****, seriously, keep talking.

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:53:00 - [413]
 

Originally by: Tholarim
Edited by: Tholarim on 10/10/2007 22:47:37
I wonder if the STK leadership told everyone what really went down before the 6 billion fee was requested.

Maybe they shoulldn't have started mining and npcing in delve without asking the alliance owning said space.

Maybe Tomcatt was lying to me when i talked to him about this just this sunday/monday. And then actually proceeded to have a conversation with Goons about possibly joining the coalition the same day. Yes that last one really helped your situation.





"Dear MPIRE

Please feel free to come down and help us, placing your ships on the line for us.

However, please ensure that during times of no ops, you do not cover your expenses in being here.

regards,
Robert"




Maximoff
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:53:00 - [414]
 

Originally by: Sir James
Originally by: August Personage

6 months sounds like a rather large exageration, and whoever posted 22 hostile alliances needs to either stop posting or show some proof too.



RZR
MM
Mostly harmless
Stella Polar
Phoenix Allianz
Tri (A few times)
SynchronizerZ
Raptus Regaliter (Not An Alliance)
Circle 0f Two
Phalanx Alliance (Red now i belive)
Vae Victis.
SmashKill
ROADKILL
Stardust Heavy Industries ( Not An Alliance)

tHats 15 i pulled in about 120 seconds of looking on the razor boards so please don't run around screaming PROOF.. PROOF.. if u have no clue.. they put up a fight. made a call and surrendered. **** happens, would have loved for it to rage on but tbh, we had a lot more than they did and no sense in loosing more than you need to.. Eve = GAME
GAME = FUN.. or not for some people that post here


1)pure
2)rule of three
3)mostly harmless
4)praesidium libertatis
5)hydra
6)the makhai
7)insurgency
8)combined planetary union
9)I.R.O.N
10)RZR
11)MM
12)Stella Polar
13)Phoenix Allianz
14)Tri (A few times) (many times all big fight+many roaming)
15)SynchronizerZ
16)Raptus Regaliter (Not An Alliance)
17)Circle 0f Two
18)Phalanx Alliance (Red now i belive)
19)Vae Victis.
20)SmashKill
21)ROADKILL
22)cruel intention

just for stay at 22. if i force my mind i discover another..

(i mention all involved on roaming-attack fatal-fallen-cow-mpire) do not count only involved on big fight.. have all time roaming of 20+ enemy alliance= give no time for new north to make money/restore , than i think this work must be considerated important like a big fight)



Defientess
Minmatar
Explora Empire
Quantum Forge
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:57:00 - [415]
 

Edited by: Defientess on 11/10/2007 03:14:21
/sighned
talk about slashed in the back multiple times :(
o/ mcorp

8==B==O===B===-D =epons only work in the E world

Fearless Sheep
Caldari
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2007.10.11 02:57:00 - [416]
 

Respect for fights!
Respect for not disbanding after the defeat!
Respect for declining the "offer"!
Respect for more fights!

Alias11
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2007.10.11 03:01:00 - [417]
 

Originally by: Vasili Z
Edited by: Vasili Z on 11/10/2007 02:35:35
On second thought... cowards.


Might I ask why snubbing their noses at the guys who tried to charge them six large a month to die for them qualifies them as cowards?

WrathOfOprah
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2007.10.11 03:05:00 - [418]
 

Edited by: WrathOfOprah on 11/10/2007 03:05:32
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Vasili Z
Edited by: Vasili Z on 11/10/2007 02:35:35
On second thought... cowards.


Might I ask why snubbing their noses at the guys who tried to charge them six large a month to die for them qualifies them as cowards?


Ah, he's just stressin' cuz he knows hes about to be homeless.

Kyguard
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2007.10.11 03:06:00 - [419]
 

Originally by: Velios
The ISK sums being mentioned here are totally irrelevant.

MPIRE had ZERO interest on being occupiers of any BoB land, we left our fight in the North in tact and willing to pour our considerable player base directly into the front lines to help MC fight the fight.

The fact is that BoB have clearly gate-crashed an MC party in FAT, and then proceeded to claim 100% the credit in that absolutely ridiculous Molle proclaimation. BoB (former ATUK mostly) then think so little of us as to prefer creating wallet-busting rental deals (wtf) before considering the real reason we were in FAT - just to fight the fight.

Did it make you feel empowered to put the squeeze on us that night, did you get a hard-on?

Damage was done that evening, MPIRE DO have standards, and we are frankly not amused.

I now see great opportunities for the future of EVE now we have made this choice, it's like somebody flicked a light switch.

Allies join "MPIRE LOBBY" to initiate battle plans.



I always thought you were the biggest **** on eve-o Velios - probably still are but damn, RESPECT.

w0rmy
Caldari
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2007.10.11 03:09:00 - [420]
 

Originally by: Kyguard


I always thought you were the biggest **** on eve-o Velios - probably still are but damn, RESPECT.



Its all the pancakes


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