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J'Hazard'i
Posted - 2007.10.06 01:26:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Haerana
Edited by: Haerana on 06/10/2007 00:42:12
obligatory flame comment! etc etc

i have many alts to fly different kinds of spaceships. it would otherwise take me a literal foreveryness to try out different things. the different playstyles of each race is nice to change between to.
Also i dont play eve 24/7 infact theres a high chance you play more than me.
And out of the amount of you that do whine about people having alt theres seems to me a much bigger majority who dont care even if they themselves dont have alts.

Why in your opinion is having an alt such a good thing? Is it because people can play 2 at once so have less need to rely on others? or is it because some can use industiral chars to fund their pvp chars? If anything i see new people getting alts an advantage as it lets them train for different things making them more useful and more upto the standards of what a single char'd older player can do.

And i dont see your problem with having a alt stated in your actual post. you seem to say they are bad but give no reason except maybe because people sell them for isk...


To be clear, it is not an issue with players chosing to have alts (although I do have an issue with that) so much as CCP encouraging it, that I have a string issue with.

If one, as a creative individual, creates a concept for a game I would assume playability across a broad spectrum would be a great goal. If one, as company, chooses to take on a great game I would assume your goals are profitablity. The two have a hard time meeting within the industry. CCP is in an odd position since their recent buy-out of White Wolf. They are now pandering to the most money-making concepts, i.e., cheap (read: no serious out-lay of cash to them, if any) alts that us gamers purchase, the new ambulation promises (that I will personally groove on) and the anti-pirate nerfs to encourage new players.

Look, CCP for the last 6 months has been making a sincere effort to make as much money as they can and I understand that. The balancing, the extra accounts for $50US, etc is all about trying to keep the "beta"s, the "past years" and the N00bs happy. Unfortunately, we will all end up *****ing and this is my current *****. And I, like any other whinger, thinks this is the most valid argument to have at the moment.

I think that offering alts for real money only destroys the ISK market which is what brings a lot of attention from non-player sources. That is my interest. If we can keep this game together as players (all of us) and keep CCP aware that their revenue stream is FROM us, then the core of this game will remain the same: playability for all styles and choices and continued interest from the non-playing community (equals more real cash for CCP) which mean better players from different circles.

Again, if all you beta player just want other beta players to diddle with, where's the challenge?

Alessandraa
Caldari
Dawn of a new Empire
Pure.
Posted - 2007.10.06 01:40:00 - [32]
 

I am surprised this was a valid email by CCP. Totally looked like a scam to me at first, coming from a secondary email adress, no info on the website about it either.

Dont know if others had the same feeling, but just giving a heads on how customers might perceive this email.

Phantom Speedrunner
Posted - 2007.10.06 02:12:00 - [33]
 

With the inflation that is todays skill system 6 months wouldnt tempt me. If they made the second character with faster skill training (x2) for example would sign up in a flash.

hellsknights
Element 115.
Posted - 2007.10.06 02:28:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Phantom Speedrunner
With the inflation that is todays skill system 6 months wouldnt tempt me. If they made the second character with faster skill training (x2) for example would sign up in a flash.



Gotta love the younger gamer's mentality, i wanna catch the old
guys in SP, godamnit.

I don't want or need anymore accounts, quit tempting me.

Zeknichov
Life. Universe. Everything.
Posted - 2007.10.06 02:32:00 - [35]
 

Originally by: Phantom Speedrunner
With the inflation that is todays skill system 6 months wouldnt tempt me. If they made the second character with faster skill training (x2) for example would sign up in a flash.


Do you not understand the purpose of a second account? Hauling/Mining. You don't need 2x skill training to be an effective hauler/miner.

EvilSpork
Caldari
Posted - 2007.10.06 03:31:00 - [36]
 

can i get a link to details on this promo please...QuestionQuestion

Filoviridae
Minmatar
Devious - Special Forces
Knights Of the Southerncross
Posted - 2007.10.06 03:38:00 - [37]
 

Edited by: Filoviridae on 06/10/2007 03:41:32
This can kiss my ****ing ass, its total ****ing bull**** that you can't use this for a character you created say, last month.

Jaedan Chantes
LiveTech
Cold Fusion Syndicate
Posted - 2007.10.06 03:51:00 - [38]
 

Wish this would have been going two months ago when I purchased my second account...Shame you can't use it on existing accounts. But then again, I see the point of not allowing it.

They should have some kind of promotion or "Thank You" for those of us who already have multiple accounts. That'd be nice.

Mallick
Northern Intelligence
Posted - 2007.10.06 04:50:00 - [39]
 

I guess CCP is desperate yet again and seem to spread their intent that running several accounts are cool and a neccessity to play EVE Online at its fullest.

Yes, DO WANT a game where every player has four accounts each, DO WANT! So I guess the real question is, how many REAL subscribers does EVE Online have? A number of 200k was stated by CCP? I guess in reality, there are only 100k different persons?

Filoviridae
Minmatar
Devious - Special Forces
Knights Of the Southerncross
Posted - 2007.10.06 04:53:00 - [40]
 

Long as this game doesn't get as bad as Dark Age of Camelot with multiple accounts, that'll be fine.

Vajak
Caldari
Posted - 2007.10.06 07:28:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Vajak on 06/10/2007 07:28:35
Originally by: J'Hazard'i
lots of stuff


Stop trying to speak for others, you claim people who started last year are getting fed up. Well the corp I am has lot of players who have started in 2006 and we are all loving this game. We have already caught up with the few really old accounts we have in corp in our specific fields of specialization like certain hacs, dictors, etc. Sure those older accounts can do stuff like man pos guns and have wider array of ships to choose from but with the areas we have chosen to specialize in first we are just as good. Not to mention I myself am already lot richer than many of the older players so yes you can catch them and even overtake them. Plus the corp I´m in is actually definetly one of the better corps in EVE even though majority of the people are way under 2 years old. So maybe you should look in the mirror instead of trying to claim to be reprensitive of group you obviously know very little about

And yes this is alt but why would I bother replying with my main to an alt ?

Mining Ho
Posted - 2007.10.06 08:23:00 - [42]
 

Any news on the currency type the 49.95 is referring to yet? :)


Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Jobie Thickburger
/me digs in his penny jar... Only need 4000 more.....

Good to see Eve^2 is back, Wasn't sure if it was a scam or not (e-mail sin't from a @CCP address and all).
We use some service called subscribermail to handle it.
Originally by: Adonis 4174
Dude, I do that with my main account. I just had training and research and stuff all lined up to complete this week and my account ran out on Sep 14 or so.

As above though, which currency? EU49.95 is US$ 70 while US$ 49.95 is EU 35 (rounded to the laziest precision)
I will try to find out tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it.

Jorr Meditir
Gallente
Deathwatch Gaming
Posted - 2007.10.06 08:40:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Chribba
Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Originally by: Chribba
My problem with this is... do I really need yet another account? Wink


real question is... do you have enough account? YARRRR!!
My alts may become jealous...


Yeah, we dont want this to happen again:
Alt_vs_Alt.wmv

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2007.10.06 08:58:00 - [44]
 

Originally by: Jorr Meditir
Yeah, we dont want this to happen again:
Alt_vs_Alt.wmv
touché!

Jesho
Minmatar
Swedish Aerospace Inc
The Kadeshi
Posted - 2007.10.06 10:49:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Adonis 4174
As above though, which currency? EU49.95 is US$ 70 while US$ 49.95 is EU 35 (rounded to the laziest precision)
I will try to find out tomorrow, unless someone beats me to it.
It has to be USD or this offer is only marginaly better than buying two 90 day GTCs not counting any initial account creation cost.

Mrs Snowman
Posted - 2007.10.06 11:15:00 - [46]
 

Can it be used to activate a trial account?

Ixchel Polyxena
Posted - 2007.10.06 14:04:00 - [47]
 

alts suck

Kather
Total Mayhem.
Eternal Rapture
Posted - 2007.10.06 16:23:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Filoviridae
Edited by: Filoviridae on 06/10/2007 03:41:32
This can kiss my ****ing ass, its total ****ing bull**** that you can't use this for a character you created say, last month.


make a power^2 account and transfer a character to it maybe? depending on how much you've already paid for you may save money

DHU InMe
Gallente
Corsairs Inc.
The Spire Collective
Posted - 2007.10.06 17:15:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Mrs Snowman
Can it be used to activate a trial account?


Second account created existing one you have already have the same right (give trial, anyway trial can be gived without player, search on google...).

Galk
Gallente
Autumn Tactics
All the things she said
Posted - 2007.10.06 17:19:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Mallick


Yes, DO WANT a game where every player has four accounts each, DO WANT! So I guess the real question is, how many REAL subscribers does EVE Online have? A number of 200k was stated by CCP? I guess in reality, there are only 100k different persons?


Who knows for sure, id be suprised if it's 100k or above though.

On the topic though, i have to say im disapointed in this.

What they sell this game as, and what they preach in their communications, goes against entirely the message that this promotion offers.

Teamwork, "it's multiplayer game you know", consequences ... balance ect ect...

All of which are negated by multiple accounting, and hardly needs to be encouraged.

Another disappointment from ccp.... i don't care if it's a business, while they continue to preach about everything eve is and should be, and how it relates to my expierences within the gaming world.... ill either take one or the other, not both... when they fly in the face of each other hitting on total hypocrisy.




Cilvius Sanctus
Gallente
The Order of Chivalry
Nex Eternus
Posted - 2007.10.06 17:45:00 - [51]
 

I know people have been posting on here and asking about using this for their existing account or for an alt account they made weeks ago. I made an alt account less than three weeks ago, and I am really wondering if it is possible for me to get this deal on that account. Had I known something like this was coming, I probably would have waited for it before I made my alt account. So, can somebody from CCP please respond? If I can't do it, no big deal, but I'm just very curious because this sounds like a really great deal.

Riddick Valer
Posted - 2007.10.06 18:15:00 - [52]
 

Make account for $50, train for 6 months, transfer the char to an existing account for $20 so you have a well-trained alt?

Only $70? Still cheaper than normal.

Tammarr
Posted - 2007.10.06 18:58:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Jorr Meditir


Yeah, we dont want this to happen again:
Alt_vs_Alt.wmv


That video looks so kewl o_O

Sleepkevert
Amarr
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
Posted - 2007.10.06 22:25:00 - [54]
 

Someone posted this in my sig: " Power^2 is failure. Get 2 GTC's for 55 euros and 30D trial time!"

Even tough i'm sorry to say it, it's very true. If power of two gives 7 months instead 6, it might be worth it, but at the moment, there is zero to near zero reason to use the "action" at the moment... Sad Shame tough, it nearly got me to buy a second character.

Kyreax
Gallente
Neuronix
Posted - 2007.10.06 23:08:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Filoviridae
Edited by: Filoviridae on 06/10/2007 03:41:32
This can kiss my ****ing ass, its total ****ing bull**** that you can't use this for a character you created say, last month.


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

Can I have your stuff? Oh wait, you're a noob that was just created, I don't want ur stuffs.Laughing


Dulsung
Posted - 2007.10.07 02:25:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Sleepkevert
Someone posted this in my sig: " Power^2 is failure. Get 2 GTC's for 55 euros and 30D trial time!"

Even tough i'm sorry to say it, it's very true. If power of two gives 7 months instead 6, it might be worth it, but at the moment, there is zero to near zero reason to use the "action" at the moment... Sad Shame tough, it nearly got me to buy a second character.


You say the Power of Two has no purpose and that it's better to make your alt account suffer from all the limitations of the trial program for 30 days (assuming you can even get a 30 day trial, remember that's not the standard) to save 5 Euros? You confuse me.

Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2007.10.07 07:11:00 - [57]
 

Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless
Edited by: ThisAlt IsUseless on 05/10/2007 21:44:47
I just received an email for that...

Originally by: from: EVE Online Newsletter ([email protected])
This offer is good only until the 4th of November 2007, and costs 49.95. After the six months the subscription of your new account will expire but you'll have choice in which manner you want to renew your subscription. Note that this offer is only available for credit cards and Direct Debit.



Great.. ugh I was happily chugging along with one account when the last ^2 offer came along and I upped myself to 3 accounts for the ****z'n'giggles of it.. Now CCP goes and does it again and I'm in need of a dedicated hauler to get all that ore my 3 Hulks are dredging in..

*le sigh* Grabs his CC.. Neutral

Arii Smith
Caldari
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2007.10.07 10:06:00 - [58]
 

Must I have recieved some special promotional mailing or can I just use this discount when registering a new account at any time the promotion is running?

CCP Wrangler

Posted - 2007.10.07 11:31:00 - [59]
 

I haven't had any luck getting information on the currency for this offer, considering it's the weekend I doubt I'll find someone who knows until tomorrow, Monday.

Sophitia Elit
Posted - 2007.10.07 13:17:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: riddick Valer
Make account for $50, train for 6 months, transfer the char to an existing account for $20 so you have a well-trained alt?

Only $70? Still cheaper than normal.


Is this possible with out any problems? I thought about this too, geting a 6 Months full skilled Alt is something i would like to have.


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